House across street from anti-gay church ....

pandora

Jason P wrote:

MotoDC wrote:

The fuck is indigo?!

I always thought Indigo Bunting would be a good name for an indie rock band.

8-)

Bentleyspop

Prince Of Dorkness wrote:

mydogmookieblaylock wrote:

I have a historical question - why is it GLBT? who do Lesbians get their own letter? I didn't realize gay only referred to men.

OK so in the 50s, there were no "nice" words and they just called us "the homosexuals." The men and women would actually socialize in the same (usually mob-owned) bars and tea rooms.

After the second world war, a small sub-community began to emerge of returning gay war veterans who didn't want to go back to their small towns after seeing the world. They bought up the old bikes at the Army Surplus, grabbed the uniforms and formed motorcycle gangs. If you've ever seen "The Wild One," that's really what it's about although they made Marlon Brando's character straight and didn't mention the "homosexual" aspect of the story.

By the early 60s, groups like The Matachine Society tried to present same-sex couples as "just like everyone else," but the vast majority of the community didn't see a place for themselves. Gender Roles were still very strict back then and the women didn't to shoehorn themselves into the June Cleaver Home Maker role and the men didn't feel they fit into the modern man with a house in the suburbs and an office in the city.

The men and women's communities grew apart and the women followed a more earthy, sapphic and nature-based culture (calling themselves "lesbians") and the men formed much more urban, hardcore, sexualized lives around Disco and late nights and they called themselves "gay."

By the time the 80s rolled around.. the ERA and AIDS hit our communities hard... those two communities were forced out of necessity to bond at least political alliances. Which is when you started to hear "gay and lesbian" applied to action groups and even parts of town. Eventually that grew... We acknowledged the existence of the bisexual community and although we have little in common with the transexual community, we saw our fights as symbiotic and they too were brought under the umbrella.

And of course as horrible as AIDS was to our community (by the time I was 21, I had buried 15 or so close friends... which hadn't been seen by any generation since the Vietnam War) but it was also the dropping of the A-bomb where we decided we were either going to have to stand up and fight and lay down and die.

Which - of course - is why we tend to be pretty militant and in people's faces. It's the only reason most of us are alive.

Thanks for the informative history lesson :clap:

PJ_Soul

That is awesome. I love to see people giving the finger to the Westboro Baptists in one way or another. It always makes me smile.

That house looks pretty cool.

mydogmookieblaylock

Prince Of Dorkness wrote:

mydogmookieblaylock wrote:

I have a historical question - why is it GLBT? who do Lesbians get their own letter? I didn't realize gay only referred to men.

OK so in the 50s, there were no "nice" words and they just called us "the homosexuals." The men and women would actually socialize in the same (usually mob-owned) bars and tea rooms.

After the second world war, a small sub-community began to emerge of returning gay war veterans who didn't want to go back to their small towns after seeing the world. They bought up the old bikes at the Army Surplus, grabbed the uniforms and formed motorcycle gangs. If you've ever seen "The Wild One," that's really what it's about although they made Marlon Brando's character straight and didn't mention the "homosexual" aspect of the story.

By the early 60s, groups like The Matachine Society tried to present same-sex couples as "just like everyone else," but the vast majority of the community didn't see a place for themselves. Gender Roles were still very strict back then and the women didn't to shoehorn themselves into the June Cleaver Home Maker role and the men didn't feel they fit into the modern man with a house in the suburbs and an office in the city.

The men and women's communities grew apart and the women followed a more earthy, sapphic and nature-based culture (calling themselves "lesbians") and the men formed much more urban, hardcore, sexualized lives around Disco and late nights and they called themselves "gay."

By the time the 80s rolled around.. the ERA and AIDS hit our communities hard... those two communities were forced out of necessity to bond at least political alliances. Which is when you started to hear "gay and lesbian" applied to action groups and even parts of town. Eventually that grew... We acknowledged the existence of the bisexual community and although we have little in common with the transexual community, we saw our fights as symbiotic and they too were brought under the umbrella.

And of course as horrible as AIDS was to our community (by the time I was 21, I had buried 15 or so close friends... which hadn't been seen by any generation since the Vietnam War) but it was also the dropping of the A-bomb where we decided we were either going to have to stand up and fight and lay down and die.

Which - of course - is why we tend to be pretty militant and in people's faces. It's the only reason most of us are alive.

very informative -- thanks for the response

Hugh Freaking Dillon

Prince Of Dorkness wrote:

mydogmookieblaylock wrote:

I have a historical question - why is it GLBT? who do Lesbians get their own letter? I didn't realize gay only referred to men.

OK so in the 50s, there were no "nice" words and they just called us "the homosexuals." The men and women would actually socialize in the same (usually mob-owned) bars and tea rooms.

After the second world war, a small sub-community began to emerge of returning gay war veterans who didn't want to go back to their small towns after seeing the world. They bought up the old bikes at the Army Surplus, grabbed the uniforms and formed motorcycle gangs. If you've ever seen "The Wild One," that's really what it's about although they made Marlon Brando's character straight and didn't mention the "homosexual" aspect of the story.

By the early 60s, groups like The Matachine Society tried to present same-sex couples as "just like everyone else," but the vast majority of the community didn't see a place for themselves. Gender Roles were still very strict back then and the women didn't to shoehorn themselves into the June Cleaver Home Maker role and the men didn't feel they fit into the modern man with a house in the suburbs and an office in the city.

The men and women's communities grew apart and the women followed a more earthy, sapphic and nature-based culture (calling themselves "lesbians") and the men formed much more urban, hardcore, sexualized lives around Disco and late nights and they called themselves "gay."

By the time the 80s rolled around.. the ERA and AIDS hit our communities hard... those two communities were forced out of necessity to bond at least political alliances. Which is when you started to hear "gay and lesbian" applied to action groups and even parts of town. Eventually that grew... We acknowledged the existence of the bisexual community and although we have little in common with the transexual community, we saw our fights as symbiotic and they too were brought under the umbrella.

And of course as horrible as AIDS was to our community (by the time I was 21, I had buried 15 or so close friends... which hadn't been seen by any generation since the Vietnam War) but it was also the dropping of the A-bomb where we decided we were either going to have to stand up and fight and lay down and die.

Which - of course - is why we tend to be pretty militant and in people's faces. It's the only reason most of us are alive.

Thanks PoD. I always wondered why "gay" was only men.