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KimmiebyromKimmiebyrom Posts: 1,832
edited March 2013 in Lost Dogs
New PJ vinyl collector here and if I'm going to start dropping dead presidents for wax, I gotta know the must-haves. I know the Benny wax is up there - and rare - and pricey. I'd be interested to see what everyone's top 5 are, maybe even why. Thx!
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    2001ALLSTAREDDIE2001ALLSTAREDDIE NorCal Posts: 193
    soundtrack to PJ20 is also a must have
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    Attaway77Attaway77 Posts: 2,889
    I would def search out Binaural first, maybe No Code next, Riot Act, Avocado, Yield, Lost Dogs etc after that.. Great albums and the packaging of them is badass..
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    landolando Posts: 661
    I have all of the albums on vinyl except for the Benny so I'm going strictly by my own opinion based on sound quality.

    Binaural- Hands down the best sound
    Riot Act- Side 3/4 make this a keeper
    Lost Dogs- Wash on vinyl, enough said
    Avocado- side 4, worth the price alone
    PJ 20 - although I think the song selection sucks
    Live On 2 Legs
    No Code
    Vitalogy/Vs/Ten/Backspacer/live on 10 legs (all sound equal to me)
    Yield (This one needs to be reissued)
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    marcosmarcos Posts: 2,111
    2001ALLSTAREDDIE wrote:
    soundtrack to PJ20 is also a must have

    Highly agree as it obviously encompasses so much and has a great sound. I would wait on everything else as they will all be re-released soon with all the vinyl mania now.
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    KimmiebyromKimmiebyrom Posts: 1,832
    Damn! Y'all are knowledgable as hell! Thanks for the info.
    I have so much to learn...just call me Grasshopper. :P
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    There's just one word I still believe...and it's LOVE.
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    mfc2006mfc2006 HTOWN Posts: 37,385
    marcos wrote:
    2001ALLSTAREDDIE wrote:
    soundtrack to PJ20 is also a must have

    Highly agree as it obviously encompasses so much and has a great sound. I would wait on everything else as they will all be re-released soon with all the vinyl mania now.


    Haven't listened to that in a long time. :fp:

    I know what I'll be spinning this weekend! :)
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    javis el errantejavis el errante Buenos Aires Posts: 6,136
    all, specially the singles, they are not too many, albums you can find anywhere, plus, there are reissues and more to come...
    ... I am not in the business of being liked anymore ...

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    STAYSEASTAYSEA Posts: 3,814
    Top Five

    1: the fan club singles
    2. Ten
    3. Vs.
    4. Vitalogy
    5. Anything by The Beatles

    that started me going.
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    peacefrompaulpeacefrompaul Posts: 25,293
    Kimmiebyrom wrote:
    Damn! Y'all are knowledgable as hell! Thanks for the info.
    I have so much to learn...just call me Grasshopper. :P


    :shock:
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    STAYSEASTAYSEA Posts: 3,814
    mfc2006 wrote:
    marcos wrote:
    2001ALLSTAREDDIE wrote:
    soundtrack to PJ20 is also a must have

    Highly agree as it obviously encompasses so much and has a great sound. I would wait on everything else as they will all be re-released soon with all the vinyl mania now.


    Haven't listened to that in a long time. :fp:

    I know what I'll be spinning this weekend! :)

    OP. Yes, you need the PJ20 wax. as soon as money allows. This should be placed in a top 5 played, but it's there.
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    juddboz80juddboz80 Posts: 2,141
    If your starting out and wanna get the best bang for your buck go for the reissues of ten/ vs/ vitalogy......3 albums for cheap and live on ten legs to get started.....that would put some pj in your collection and keep some in your wallet!

    Top 5....
    1. Lost dogs.....gotta own this one
    2. Pj 20
    3. Binaural
    4. No code
    5. Atleast 1 live album (10 or 2 legs)

    Best advice is dont start on vinyl....get a drug habit instead!!! It will be cheaper!! :D
    Cant buy what i want cause its free....
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    STAYSEASTAYSEA Posts: 3,814
    juddboz80 wrote:
    If your starting out and wanna get the best bang for your buck go for the reissues of ten/ vs/ vitalogy......3 albums for cheap and live on ten legs to get started.....that would put some pj in your collection and keep some in your wallet!

    Top 5....
    1. Lost dogs.....gotta own this one
    2. Pj 20
    3. Binaural
    4. No code
    5. Atleast 1 live album (10 or 2 legs)

    Best advice is dont start on vinyl....get a drug habit instead!!! It will be cheaper!! :D

    :lol::lol:

    I don't know I could have been in rehab by now... Crack is whack.. Vinyl is Crazier?
    to me, it's about the chase. Hours spent ... flipping albums.
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    morellomorello Auckland, New Zealand Posts: 6,210
    lando wrote:
    Vitalogy/Vs/Ten/Backspacer/live on 10 legs (all sound equal to me)
    Bummer,the only ones I have so far are almost last on your list. :( It's a start though of course.

    I really want No Code most next tbh just coz I'd love to have/see the polaroids big.
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    landolando Posts: 661
    morello wrote:
    lando wrote:
    Vitalogy/Vs/Ten/Backspacer/live on 10 legs (all sound equal to me)
    Bummer,the only ones I have so far are almost last on your list. :( It's a start though of course.

    I really want No Code most next tbh just coz I'd love to have/see the polaroids big.

    Yeah I started with the same ones you had and built up, I just plugged away at finding them through here or ebay. One fine ten club gentleman sold me a copy of Riot Act for $60, so it can be done
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    morellomorello Auckland, New Zealand Posts: 6,210
    lando wrote:
    morello wrote:
    lando wrote:
    Vitalogy/Vs/Ten/Backspacer/live on 10 legs (all sound equal to me)
    Bummer,the only ones I have so far are almost last on your list. :( It's a start though of course.

    I really want No Code most next tbh just coz I'd love to have/see the polaroids big.

    Yeah I started with the same ones you had and built up, I just plugged away at finding them through here or ebay. One fine ten club gentleman sold me a copy of Riot Act for $60, so it can be done
    Yeah that's my plan, just kind of plug away at it as they come up. :)
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    AfghanTwilightAfghanTwilight Rochester, NY Posts: 835
    Mad Season - Above (Fortunately there's a re-issue set to hit stores on RSD '13)
    Neil Young w/Pearl Jam - Mirrorball

    Head over to pjcollectors.com for a look at all things collectible with PJ wax.
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    100 Pacer100 Pacer Toronto, ON Posts: 8,535
    Kimmiebyrom wrote:
    New PJ vinyl collector here and if I'm going to start dropping dead presidents for wax, I gotta know the must-haves. I know the Benny wax is up there - and rare - and pricey. I'd be interested to see what everyone's top 5 are, maybe even why. Thx!

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    DewieCoxDewieCox Posts: 11,412
    I'd go with the reissues, first. They are easy to get.

    As much as I love my PJ vinyl collection, there's not much there that is "must own" when it comes to vinyl. They all have the same mastering job as the cd. The only differences you'll hear are the inherent differences between cd and vinyl, and honestly isn't much on most of their tunes.

    You'd be better off blowing large sums of money on bands that actually give a crap about how their vinyl sounds.
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    AfghanTwilightAfghanTwilight Rochester, NY Posts: 835
    Binaural sounds different to my ears, but yes - many other bands master things separately for vinyl.
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    boyo79boyo79 Warrington, UK Posts: 6,525
    I think Yield sounds alot different between vinyl and cd.
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    2-feign-reluctance2-feign-reluctance TigerTown, USA Posts: 23,144
    they all sound great with a decent set up. that's the key IMO...
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    Dr Emmett BrownDr Emmett Brown Posts: 600
    Just so long as you don't start looking for an orange The Fixer until I have one... :D
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    AfghanTwilightAfghanTwilight Rochester, NY Posts: 835
    The reality is that most vinyl is not mastered specifically for vinyl...as there is little need if done properly the first time.

    These are great reads, if anyone is interested...
    http://productionadvice.co.uk/vinyl-mastering/
    http://www.gearslutz.com/board/so-much- ... vinyl.html

    And yeah, I have an orange fixer 45. That thing's likely available to whomever wants to pay the insane "exchange rate" these days. :lol:
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    Dr Emmett BrownDr Emmett Brown Posts: 600
    $300

    Go on, you know you want to... :twisted:
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    DewieCoxDewieCox Posts: 11,412
    AfghanTwilight wrote:
    The reality is that most vinyl is not mastered specifically for vinyl...as there is little need if done properly the first time.

    These are great reads, if anyone is interested...
    http://productionadvice.co.uk/vinyl-mastering/
    http://www.gearslutz.com/board/so-much- ... vinyl.html

    Clearly most albums from the last 20 years haven't had a vinyl specific master, but from personal experience I can tell you that they're not sounding as good as they can. I don't always check background info for releases I know I'm gonna buy and sometimes I even ignore it if it's something I'm lacking and in just about every case of really great sounding modern records there's a separate master. And in every case of bad or average sounding vinyl they take the lazy way out.

    I don't put much stock in the article or the science behind it and those articles you posted may have a point, but I'd guess if a band isn't worried about a separate vinyl master, they're not concerned with putting a high res version onto vinyl.

    PJ's catalog is a perfect example. Only Backspacer sounds bad and some of it sounds great, but all of their cd's sound great to begin with. I just can't imagine how much better their catalog would sound with a proper master, especially since they were recording to tape at least through Riot Act.


    There's certain attributes that each format highlights and inherent drawbacks. What's warm with smooth top end on a record and sound muddy and harsh on a cd and what's well balanced with good separation on cd can sound crowded and dull on vinyl.
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    jonsey30jonsey30 Rochester Hills, MI Posts: 998
    Not really a question about must-have (or maybe it is), but I am just wondering if the EV - Ukulele Songs Vinyl is something to buy. $24.99 seems to be a really good price compared to what I see anywhere else on the Interwebs. Looks like anywhere from $60-90 other places.
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    KimmiebyromKimmiebyrom Posts: 1,832
    All posts, very good points. I have much to consider. So freaking happy to have some solid advice from collectors who've been doing it for awhile. I'm going to start this addictive endeavor pretty quick. Best start with a good turntable huh? Suggestions?
    Got the Rockit 8s for sound, you think that's good enough?
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    There's just one word I still believe...and it's LOVE.
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    STAYSEASTAYSEA Posts: 3,814
    jonsey30 wrote:
    Not really a question about must-have (or maybe it is), but I am just wondering if the EV - Ukulele Songs Vinyl is something to buy. $24.99 seems to be a really good price compared to what I see anywhere else on the Interwebs. Looks like anywhere from $60-90 other places.


    Mine came with a soft cover of the Uke book.
    Does the one for sale include this?
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    javis el errantejavis el errante Buenos Aires Posts: 6,136
    lando wrote:
    Yeah I started with the same ones you had and built up, I just plugged away at finding them through here or ebay. One fine ten club gentleman sold me a copy of Riot Act for $60, so it can be done

    that's cheap!!! cool!!!! when was that?

    STAYSEA wrote:
    Mine came with a soft cover of the Uke book.
    Does the one for sale include this?

    All Ukulele songs vinyl come with the soongbook and ukulele chart... soft cover as you say...
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    jonsey30jonsey30 Rochester Hills, MI Posts: 998
    javis el errante wrote:
    lando wrote:
    Yeah I started with the same ones you had and built up, I just plugged away at finding them through here or ebay. One fine ten club gentleman sold me a copy of Riot Act for $60, so it can be done

    that's cheap!!! cool!!!! when was that?

    STAYSEA wrote:
    Mine came with a soft cover of the Uke book.
    Does the one for sale include this?

    All Ukulele songs vinyl come with the soongbook and ukulele chart... soft cover as you say...
    So you're saying this is a good buy from the shop? It does come with all the goodies that you mentioned, and MP3 version of the album with a digital copy of the song book.
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