Sermon rips anti-bullying bill

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aerial wrote:

Prince Of Dorkness wrote:

aerial wrote:

I was not up set just I just let you know that YOU do not know what your talking about.........

Says the guy who's whining about how teachers are telling his kids how to "feel." :fp:

No whining here. I'm saying it ain't gonna happen......I'm saying I am responsible for my children not the government.

"It ain't gonna happen". What do you mean by this? It makes no sense... at all.

In the perfect world... parents would all be awesome and teachers could focus strictly on academics. We know this is not- nor ever will be- the case. Aside from the homes, the school setting is the only opportunity we have to try and build positive attitudes in our children.

The teachers in front of your children are not government agents: with some exceptions... they are caring individuals that are working hard to provide another (or the only) positive role model for kids.

Do you think that your kids only need one role model in their lives? Do you think that if a child is raised without a father that bonding with a strong male influence in the school setting is a bad thing? Do you think that a teacher's efforts to provide moral guidance for a kid with a junkie for a parent are wasted?

Why do you think that impoverished countries are trying desperately to build and maintain schools?

You need to control-alt-delete yourself and look at things from a less hostile and paranoid perpsective.

aerial

My hostility is from the people on here that act as though they want to change things by teaching kids to be nice to people yet they are the same people that throw out the derogatory names and disrespect to others. What are these people saying? Be nice when your a kid accept everything you are being taught, No matter what your family thinks? Then when you grow up you can call people any nasty names you want? If your going to be disrespectful to others what right do you have to whine about others disrespecting people.
I don't assume I know what people have gone through in there life and neither should anyone else.
I wonder how many people on here have Actually raise children?

PJ_Soul

aerial wrote:

My hostility is from the people on here that act as though they want to change things by teaching kids to be nice to people yet they are the same people that throw out the derogatory names and disrespect to others. What are these people saying? Be nice when your a kid accept everything you are being taught, No matter what your family thinks? Then when you grow up you can call people any nasty names you want? If your going to be disrespectful to others what right do you have to whine about others disrespecting people.
I don't assume I know what people have gone through in there life and neither should anyone else.
I wonder how many people on here have Actually raise children?

The point is simply to teach children so that they hopefully don't turn into bigots. Bigots are harmful to society, and being one is harmful to an individual. I think schools have every right to prevent this from happening to children, even if their parents disapprove.

But more to the point... this thread is not about what teachers are teaching kids. It's simply about providing children at risk an option. No one has to participate in these groups if they don't want to, and they are created only at the request of those students who feel they need support. Anyone who opposes that or supports this awful "man of God" is a rotten human being IMO.

Hugh Freaking Dillon

aerial wrote:

My hostility is from the people on here that act as though they want to change things by teaching kids to be nice to people yet they are the same people that throw out the derogatory names and disrespect to others. What are these people saying? Be nice when your a kid accept everything you are being taught, No matter what your family thinks? Then when you grow up you can call people any nasty names you want? If your going to be disrespectful to others what right do you have to whine about others disrespecting people.
I don't assume I know what people have gone through in there life and neither should anyone else.
I wonder how many people on here have Actually raise children?

kids should be able to form groups whose main purpose is to support. it's no different than having a health an wellness committee at work, or even an HR department. when someone is being wronged at their workplace, should they just be told "suck it up" and "grow a thicker skin"? no, people need assistance. that's all this group is. and unfortunately it has to become law because people, like this pastor, seem to think that supporting those who might be targets of hate should be feared.

I have two daughters, aged 6 and 3. If it turns out they were born homosexual, I'd want them to have all the support they required from their friends and peers at school. Any sensible parent would want that. It's no different than forming a "girl power" support group.

Bentleyspop

aerial wrote:

My hostility is from the people on here that act as though they want to change things by teaching kids to be nice to people yet they are the same people that throw out the derogatory names and disrespect to others. What are these people saying? Be nice when your a kid accept everything you are being taught, No matter what your family thinks? Then when you grow up you can call people any nasty names you want? If your going to be disrespectful to others what right do you have to whine about others disrespecting people.
I don't assume I know what people have gone through in there life and neither should anyone else.
I wonder how many people on here have Actually raise children?

I still want to know where you stand on sex education in the schools

aerial

Bentleyspop wrote:

aerial wrote:

My hostility is from the people on here that act as though they want to change things by teaching kids to be nice to people yet they are the same people that throw out the derogatory names and disrespect to others. What are these people saying? Be nice when your a kid accept everything you are being taught, No matter what your family thinks? Then when you grow up you can call people any nasty names you want? If your going to be disrespectful to others what right do you have to whine about others disrespecting people.
I don't assume I know what people have gone through in there life and neither should anyone else.
I wonder how many people on here have Actually raise children?

I still want to know where you stand on sex education in the schools

I rather teach my kids myself. Honestly I don't really know what they teach any more. I know when I was in school it was more anatomy and reproduction. Which is fine by me.
My Granddaughter is eleven now and very curious with tons of questions and I answer them very truthfully. Her Mother has told her about the birds and the bees but did not tell her the tactics boys will use. I filled her in on that. Discussing this subject was hilarious for both of us. It sure did bring me back to the days when I was young and thought this stuff was gross like she does now.

gimmesometruth27

does anybody on here really think that bullying is ok?

pandora

“It gets better. It seems hard, you know, I think being different is always gonna be a tough climb. There's always gonna be people that are scared of it. But at the end of the day you give those bullies, those people, that are so ignorant, if you give them the power to affect you, you're letting them win. And they don't deserve that. What you're doing by being yourself is you're keeping it real, and you're being really brave.”
― Adam Lambert

Go Adam keeping it real

Prince Of Dorkness

aerial wrote:

Prince Of Dorkness wrote:

aerial wrote:

I was not up set just I just let you know that YOU do not know what your talking about.........

Says the guy who's whining about how teachers are telling his kids how to "feel." :fp:

No whining here. I'm saying it ain't gonna happen......I'm saying I am responsible for my children not the government.

Why does it always have to default to this bizarre paranoia about "the government?"

Of course you're responsible for your kids and not the government. What does that have to do with anti-bullying rules at your kids school?

Actually... if YOU are so responsible, why are you sending them to a public school? You know that they teach them stuff there, right? Do you get upset when they teach them how to read? Do you get upset when they teach them math and make them line up to walk to the next class?

If a student gets into a fight and knocks out your kid's teeth... should that student be suspended or reprimanded by the school or is it not the government's job to protect your kids from bullies?

Prince Of Dorkness

aerial wrote:

My hostility is from the people on here that act as though they want to change things by teaching kids to be nice to people yet they are the same people that throw out the derogatory names and disrespect to others.

Ah. Got it. So since I'm a rude jackass to people who clearly are trying to come up with a good excuse to let their kids pick on others, that means we should drop all anti-bullying rules and information from schools.

Well that makes perfect sense.