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Pete Townshend vs Roger Waters

rearviewrossrearviewross Posts: 3,055
edited February 2013 in Other Music
Both are the main creative force behind a legendary rock band. Both are amazing musicians and both can sing. Which one and why?
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  • Empty GlassEmpty Glass In Rob's shed Posts: 12,329
    c'mon. No brainer, Pete. - says the guy with the Empty Glass album cover as his avatar :lol:


    No real reason as to why other than I'm not a really big Waters fan. I respect what he has done, I'm just not a fan.
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  • helplessdancerhelplessdancer Posts: 5,272
    rearviewross wrote:
    Both are the main creative force behind a legendary rock band. Both are amazing musicians and both can sing. Which one and why?

    why don't you go first??
  • StevieGStevieG Ontario Posts: 850
    Waters, because he's not a pedophile.
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  • rustneversleepsrustneversleeps The Motel of Lost Companions Posts: 2,209
    is that a serious question???
  • rearviewrossrearviewross Posts: 3,055
    Empty Glass wrote:
    c'mon. No brainer, Pete. - says the guy with the Empty Glass album cover as his avatar :lol:


    No real reason as to why other than I'm not a really big Waters fan. I respect what he has done, I'm just not a fan.

    Shocking, coming from you. :D They were also both known for being an asshole at times, or often.

    I have to go with Pete as well. I think Waters was brilliant though. Pete and David Gilmore are two of my fav guitarists of all time. So makes it hard for me to pick Roger.
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  • rearviewrossrearviewross Posts: 3,055
    law21 wrote:
    is that a serious question???

    So you used one of your 8 posts in 5 years to ask me this? Add to the discussion or keep quiet.
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  • BinauralJamBinauralJam Posts: 14,158
    Thunder Dome!!! Waters wins, he chokes Pete to death with his incredibility long arms! :twisted:
  • rearviewrossrearviewross Posts: 3,055
    BinauralJam wrote:
    Thunder Dome!!! Waters wins, he chokes Pete to death with his incredibility long arms! :twisted:

    Lol, that would have been a good fight back in the day. Two guys with bad tempers. Though Pete was knocked out by Roger Daltrey with one punch.
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  • Who PrincessWho Princess out here in the fields Posts: 7,305
    Do you really need to guess who I'd say? :lol:

    But having read Pete's autobiography, I'll add that he very much admires Waters and has since the early days of Pink Floyd.
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  • rearviewrossrearviewross Posts: 3,055
    Who Princess wrote:
    Do you really need to guess who I'd say? :lol:

    But having read Pete's autobiography, I'll add that he very much admires Waters and has since the early days of Pink Floyd.

    I did not know that but it makes sense. Both are incredibly driven by their visions and uncompromising, which didnt go over as well with Pink Floyd. :lol: The Who seemed much more willing to let Pete do his thing.

    I assumed most on this board would pick Pete but curious to see how many picked Roger and their reasons why.
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  • Who PrincessWho Princess out here in the fields Posts: 7,305
    rearviewross wrote:
    Who Princess wrote:
    Do you really need to guess who I'd say? :lol:

    But having read Pete's autobiography, I'll add that he very much admires Waters and has since the early days of Pink Floyd.

    I did not know that but it makes sense. Both are incredibly driven by their visions and uncompromising, which didnt go over as well with Pink Floyd. :lol: The Who seemed much more willing to let Pete do his thing.
    In his book he talks about how exciting it was to see other bands in their early days: the Stones, the Kinks, Pink Floyd. He says that the first time he saw Pink Floyd perform he thought that Waters would eventually become the band's creative force.
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  • BinFrogBinFrog MA Posts: 7,309
    Waters. I love me some Who, but Floyd is on another level.
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  • DewieCoxDewieCox Posts: 11,429
    Too close to call. I dig some Who, but Floyd is in my top 3, both my personal list and my list of all time bands. Not to take anything away from the other members of the Who or their musical personalities, but I think Waters had quite a bit more help in pushing and expanding his vision, so I'll go with Townsend. It came down to Quadrophenia vs The Wall for me and Quad edges it out ever so slightly.
  • rearviewrossrearviewross Posts: 3,055
    DewieCox wrote:
    Too close to call. I dig some Who, but Floyd is in my top 3, both my personal list and my list of all time bands. Not to take anything away from the other members of the Who or their musical personalities, but I think Waters had quite a bit more help in pushing and expanding his vision, so I'll go with Townsend. It came down to Quadrophenia vs The Wall for me and Quad edges it out ever so slightly.

    Some good points. Quad vs The Wall, that is kind of the comparison I was thinking of. Both made epic concept albums. Tommy and Dark Side too.
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  • EdsonNascimentoEdsonNascimento Posts: 5,521
    rearviewross wrote:
    Who Princess wrote:
    Do you really need to guess who I'd say? :lol:

    But having read Pete's autobiography, I'll add that he very much admires Waters and has since the early days of Pink Floyd.

    I did not know that but it makes sense. Both are incredibly driven by their visions and uncompromising, which didnt go over as well with Pink Floyd. :lol: The Who seemed much more willing to let Pete do his thing.

    I assumed most on this board would pick Pete but curious to see how many picked Roger and their reasons why.

    Actually, Pete MADE the other guys contribute their own songs to albums b/c song royalties was where the money was at in those days. The producers and record execs weren't initially keen on that idea and other than Entwistle for a bit, either were the band.

    Roger LOOKS to Pete to write stuff for him (including some of his solo stuff). And, over the years Pete has admitted writing for Roger's voice without even realizing it.

    And the answer to the question is - Pete Townshend. Waters is awesome, no doubt. But, Townshend contributed to music in so many ways that folks don't even realize - Quadrophonic sound!!!! Ha, ha - but, no, really. There's a ton of stuff he's done in the background of music (other than his writing) that others never even dreamed of. And besides, EC might not be with us today if it wasn't for Pete. So, on that score alone, Pete for the win!
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  • rustneversleepsrustneversleeps The Motel of Lost Companions Posts: 2,209
    what a dumb question
  • rearviewrossrearviewross Posts: 3,055
    law21 wrote:
    what a dumb question

    Hey troll, fuck off.
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  • DewieCoxDewieCox Posts: 11,429
    EdsonNascimento wrote:
    And the answer to the question is - Pete Townshend. Waters is awesome, no doubt. But, Townshend contributed to music in so many ways that folks don't even realize - Quadrophonic sound!!!! Ha, ha - but, no, really. There's a ton of stuff he's done in the background of music (other than his writing) that others never even dreamed of. And besides, EC might not be with us today if it wasn't for Pete. So, on that score alone, Pete for the win!


    There's a Quadrophenia documentary where Townshend actually talks about getting the idea of quadrophonic sound from Pink Floyd's live show.
  • rearviewrossrearviewross Posts: 3,055
    DewieCox wrote:
    EdsonNascimento wrote:
    And the answer to the question is - Pete Townshend. Waters is awesome, no doubt. But, Townshend contributed to music in so many ways that folks don't even realize - Quadrophonic sound!!!! Ha, ha - but, no, really. There's a ton of stuff he's done in the background of music (other than his writing) that others never even dreamed of. And besides, EC might not be with us today if it wasn't for Pete. So, on that score alone, Pete for the win!


    There's a Quadrophenia documentary where Townshend actually talks about getting the idea of quadrophonic sound from Pink Floyd's live show.

    I watched that show, it was pretty cool. I got a lot of insight into The Who from that movie. He wanted to record it in quadrophonic but it became too difficult, the technology just wasn't quite there yet or something like that.
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  • mysticweedmysticweed Posts: 3,710
    pete
    pete
    pete

    love the floyd
    but come on
    fuck 'em if they can't take a joke

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  • EdsonNascimentoEdsonNascimento Posts: 5,521
    DewieCox wrote:
    EdsonNascimento wrote:
    And the answer to the question is - Pete Townshend. Waters is awesome, no doubt. But, Townshend contributed to music in so many ways that folks don't even realize - Quadrophonic sound!!!! Ha, ha - but, no, really. There's a ton of stuff he's done in the background of music (other than his writing) that others never even dreamed of. And besides, EC might not be with us today if it wasn't for Pete. So, on that score alone, Pete for the win!


    There's a Quadrophenia documentary where Townshend actually talks about getting the idea of quadrophonic sound from Pink Floyd's live show.

    Yep!!! 100%. And, Floyd actually perfected it and continued to use it after some of Townshend's initial experimentation. I wasn't trying to say he was alone in doing what he did (and that was just 1 example). They clearly all fed off each other, which unfortunately is what is missing in today's music.
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  • JOEJOEJOEJOEJOEJOE Posts: 10,517
    Pete wins the talent contest

    but in a fist fight, Roger Waters would win because of his unusually legnthy arms! :fp:
  • KathiKathi Posts: 1,828
    pete. I never really got into pink floyd, and I love the who. besides, I'm not a fan of his the wall show.
  • kwdaleykwdaley Posts: 499
    Too close to call... Saw both Quad and the Wall live last year. Both were amazing. Tommy and Dark Side are over-rated albums imo.
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  • whgarrettwhgarrett Posts: 574
    Roger Waters, but i'm way more into Pink Floyd than The Who.
  • red mosred mos Posts: 4,953
    tough call, but I'll go with Pete.
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  • Edved82Edved82 Ireland Posts: 1,279
    Waters is an absolute genius in my book. An arsehole, but a genius - not a fantastic musician, but his creative mind during the late 60's to late 70's was unbelievable. Plus I prefer the Floyd to the Who so the deal is sealed :)
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  • BinFrogBinFrog MA Posts: 7,309
    kwdaley wrote:
    Too close to call... Saw both Quad and the Wall live last year. Both were amazing. Tommy and Dark Side are over-rated albums imo.


    As a whole Tommy is a bit overrated (with some amazing moments), but I disagree about Dark Side.
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  • rearviewrossrearviewross Posts: 3,055
    BinFrog wrote:
    kwdaley wrote:
    Too close to call... Saw both Quad and the Wall live last year. Both were amazing. Tommy and Dark Side are over-rated albums imo.


    As a whole Tommy is a bit overrated (with some amazing moments), but I disagree about Dark Side.

    I agree with this. Dark Side is amazing.
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  • rearviewrossrearviewross Posts: 3,055
    Edved82 wrote:
    Waters is an absolute genius in my book. An arsehole, but a genius - not a fantastic musician, but his creative mind during the late 60's to late 70's was unbelievable. Plus I prefer the Floyd to the Who so the deal is sealed :)

    Im not a bass player so never really payed much attention to it until a couple years ago. I wasnt sure how good Roger is. They both were like a juggernaut of creativity and driving vision. I just admire the hell out of both. I didnt answer first because I didnt really know which one. I guess for me it depends on what kind of mood I am in. If I want to chill, its Roger. If I want to rock out a little more its Pete.
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