Man slapped crying 'n****r baby' on plane - fired

lukin2006

if he did do this ... then let the courts deal with him ... but isn't he innocent till proven guilty?

Thirty Bills Unpaid

lukin2006 wrote:

if he did do this ... then let the courts deal with him ... but isn't he innocent till proven guilty?

We could probably go face value here. He slapped a baby. He used language that reveals his inner-self. This is a 60 year old man that should know better. For such an incident to occur... he's likely spent many years looking down at other people and treating them with disdain. A guy just doesn't up and lose it like he did if he doesn't harbour deep hatred.

The courts are going to deal with him and to some degree... he's lucky only the courts will be involved. If Chadwick had been behind him, his earlobes would be hanging by a thread from the ear-flick assault and neck hair yanks he would have experienced.

lukin2006

Thirty Bills Unpaid wrote:

lukin2006 wrote:

if he did do this ... then let the courts deal with him ... but isn't he innocent till proven guilty?

We could probably go face value here. He slapped a baby. He used language that reveals his inner-self. This is a 60 year old man that should know better. For such an incident to occur... he's likely spent many years looking down at other people and treating them with disdain. A guy just doesn't up and lose it like he did if he doesn't harbour deep hatred.

The courts are going to deal with him and to some degree... he's lucky only the courts will be involved. If Chadwick had been behind him, his earlobes would be hanging by a thread from the ear-flick assault and neck hair yanks he would have experienced.

That's not really the point here ... the point being your innocent till proven guilty ... why in your opinion does he not deserve that right? You and the others on here have convicted him and are deciding what type of punishment he deserves before he's able to defend himself and the DA has to prove he's guilty.

unsung

lukin2006 wrote:

if he did do this ... then let the courts deal with him ... but isn't he innocent till proven guilty?

That doesn't exist anymore in the drone society. War on terror!

Thirty Bills Unpaid

lukin2006 wrote:

Thirty Bills Unpaid wrote:

lukin2006 wrote:

if he did do this ... then let the courts deal with him ... but isn't he innocent till proven guilty?

We could probably go face value here. He slapped a baby. He used language that reveals his inner-self. This is a 60 year old man that should know better. For such an incident to occur... he's likely spent many years looking down at other people and treating them with disdain. A guy just doesn't up and lose it like he did if he doesn't harbour deep hatred.

The courts are going to deal with him and to some degree... he's lucky only the courts will be involved. If Chadwick had been behind him, his earlobes would be hanging by a thread from the ear-flick assault and neck hair yanks he would have experienced.

That's not really the point here ... the point being your innocent till proven guilty ... why in your opinion does he not deserve that right? You and the others on here have convicted him and are deciding what type of punishment he deserves before he's able to defend himself and the DA has to prove he's guilty.

You can't be serious? The guy slapped a baby and used derogatory language that has no place in society. He did so under the 'safe' and 'controlled' environment the cabin of a plane could afford him.

I'll give him the opportunity to go to court and defend himself. I have no problem with that. However, if that was you or your daughter's infant, would you merely gasp and retreat to the corner of your seat? Perhaps sobbing? Or would you take your fist and thrust it hard into the man's nose? Bearing witness to the incident... would you blame someone for responding in an aggressive manner? Or would you expect the first scenario to play out (retreating to the corner whimpering)?

Nearest to the situation... would you expect an able-bodied man to sit there and do nothing? Just shake his head and mutter, "Tsk tsk"? Or would you expect some form of defence that clearly demonstrates the level of tolerance we (society) has for such behaviour? If it was my daughter... I could only hope for some man to 'come to aid' and deal with this idiot in the manner it demands (timely and physical).

peacefrompaul

lukin2006 wrote:

if he did do this ... then let the courts deal with him ... but isn't he innocent till proven guilty?

He'll get his day in court... it's kind of hard to deny, though, when you have first hand accounts of a guy slapping a baby in the face.

lukin2006

peacefrompaul wrote:

lukin2006 wrote:

if he did do this ... then let the courts deal with him ... but isn't he innocent till proven guilty?

He'll get his day in court... it's kind of hard to deny, though, when you have first hand accounts of a guy slapping a baby in the face.

I'm not denying that ... everybody here is basing their opinion on a news story ... let all the facts come out in court. Then let the courts deal with him.

Thirty Bills Unpaid

lukin2006 wrote:

peacefrompaul wrote:

lukin2006 wrote:

if he did do this ... then let the courts deal with him ... but isn't he innocent till proven guilty?

He'll get his day in court... it's kind of hard to deny, though, when you have first hand accounts of a guy slapping a baby in the face.

I'm not denying that ... everybody here is basing their opinion on a news story ... let all the facts come out in court. Then let the courts deal with him.

But in the meantime... let's shred this guy and talk about how we'd like to smack him!

gimmesometruth27

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V3GLrKfY9f8

dimitrispearljam

lukin2006 wrote:

if he did do this ... then let the courts deal with him ... but isn't he innocent till proven guilty?

sure..that doesnt change the fact that he is a piece of shit..if he did it..

Guitar92player

I just read about this. How dumb can you be?

It's so sad racism still exists in this country.

chadwick

if my brother for example was sitting there and saw a grown ass man assault & call names of a nasty foul manner to this mother and child & the grown ass man physically assaulted the baby & the mom was horrified in distress ... forget about it. my brother is a fucking brutal animal compared to me.

he'd be just short of setting this piece of shit on fire & cooking the dude's very own testicles over his flaming corpse. then he'd break his frickin jaw for eem. then the plane would land & my brother would be on his way no questions asked.

happens all the time actually.

Jeanwah

peacefrompaul wrote:

lukin2006 wrote:

if he did do this ... then let the courts deal with him ... but isn't he innocent till proven guilty?

He'll get his day in court... it's kind of hard to deny, though, when you have first hand accounts of a guy slapping a baby in the face.

Actually, it's very possible that his day in court will get him off because he paid big bucks for a scumbag attorney to get him off. There's no justice in U.S. law; it's all about the attorneys and their unscrupulous and dirty ways of winning a case.

gimmesometruth27

Thirty Bills Unpaid

Jeanwah wrote:

peacefrompaul wrote:

lukin2006 wrote:

if he did do this ... then let the courts deal with him ... but isn't he innocent till proven guilty?

He'll get his day in court... it's kind of hard to deny, though, when you have first hand accounts of a guy slapping a baby in the face.

Actually, it's very possible that his day in court will get him off because he paid big bucks for a scumbag attorney to get him off. There's no justice in U.S. law; it's all about the attorneys and their unscrupulous and dirty ways of winning a case.

To ensure he understood the displeasure of those around him for his general obscenity... this is another reason why someone should have seized the moment and grabbed his neck for a quick 'wringing' and maybe a slap or two straight across the ears. Follow it up with a good, loud, and stern "Hey! That's enough!" Make sure spittle is flying from the mouth and landing on his face as you try to calm the situation.

Afterwards, you tell the authorities you just wanted to prevent any further abuse towards the child and you certainly never meant the man no harm. One part true... one part not so much.

If everyone else is doing their part... they corroborate the story and... perfection: asshole gets his neck wrung- face possibly slapped as well- and a brutal judicial system is denied the opportunity to act brutally!

chadwick

Thirty Bills Unpaid wrote:

To ensure he understood the displeasure of those around him for his general obscenity... this is another reason why someone should have seized the moment and grabbed his neck for a quick 'wringing' and maybe a slap or two straight across the ears. Follow it up with a good, loud, and stern "Hey! That's enough!" Make sure spittle is flying from the mouth and landing on his face as you try to calm the situation.

Afterwards, you tell the authorities you just wanted to prevent any further abuse towards the child and you certainly never meant the man no harm. One part true... one part not so much.

If everyone else is doing their part... they corroborate the story and... perfection: asshole gets his neck wrung- face possibly slapped as well- and a brutal judicial system is denied the opportunity to act brutally!

love it

vant0037

Jeanwah wrote:

peacefrompaul wrote:

lukin2006 wrote:

if he did do this ... then let the courts deal with him ... but isn't he innocent till proven guilty?

He'll get his day in court... it's kind of hard to deny, though, when you have first hand accounts of a guy slapping a baby in the face.

Actually, it's very possible that his day in court will get him off because he paid big bucks for a scumbag attorney to get him off. There's no justice in U.S. law; it's all about the attorneys and their unscrupulous and dirty ways of winning a case.

As an American attorney, I'd take offense to that if I thought it was based on anything other than some limited personal experience or some shit you saw on TV. Good grief.

Thirty Bills Unpaid

vant0037 wrote:

As an American attorney, I'd take offense to that if I thought it was based on anything other than some limited personal experience or some shit you saw on TV. Good grief.

Van...

Don't take JW's coimments to heart. I have read many of your comments. You come across as a very reasonable person and someone who is decent and honourable. I really do not want to come across as too confrontational (lest I face a defammation suit ), but among other items, you fight two things that keep people from gushing for your profession- and speaking ill of it on occasion:

1. In every trial situation... one lawyer is a 'good' lawyer and one lawyer is a 'prick' lawyer depending on each person's individual investment in the case. It's hard to fall in love with a lawyer that attacks some victim on the witness stand trying to make the guilty person they are defending seem less guilty unless you are in the accused's camp.

2. Lawyers have quite the little 'industry' to work in. Only they can do the work and it's quite fair to say that the fees for this work are just a little excessive. To deny this would be absurd- I know firsthand what fees one has to pay (in Canada). To be frank, they are unreasonable and unfair. I have also been led to believe that legal fees are more in the US- if this is so... well... good career choice!

Regardless... we need to stay on good terms. If I ever do slap some racist, crusty old man for striking a child on a plane... I'll be sending you a pm!

peacefrompaul

Jeanwah wrote:

peacefrompaul wrote:

lukin2006 wrote:

if he did do this ... then let the courts deal with him ... but isn't he innocent till proven guilty?

He'll get his day in court... it's kind of hard to deny, though, when you have first hand accounts of a guy slapping a baby in the face.

Actually, it's very possible that his day in court will get him off because he paid big bucks for a scumbag attorney to get him off. There's no justice in U.S. law; it's all about the attorneys and their unscrupulous and dirty ways of winning a case.

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lukin2006

vant0037 wrote:

Jeanwah wrote:

peacefrompaul wrote:

He'll get his day in court... it's kind of hard to deny, though, when you have first hand accounts of a guy slapping a baby in the face.

Actually, it's very possible that his day in court will get him off because he paid big bucks for a scumbag attorney to get him off. There's no justice in U.S. law; it's all about the attorneys and their unscrupulous and dirty ways of winning a case.

As an American attorney, I'd take offense to that if I thought it was based on anything other than some limited personal experience or some shit you saw on TV. Good grief.

The AMT's an interesting place ... supposedly everyone is so open minded ... they are convicting this guy and sentencing this guy based on a newspaper article ... and this is why people need attorney's. I say if he did do it then the courts will deal with him the best way they can as of now he's innocent until proven guilty, at least I'd like to think that is 1 right people haven't lost yet.