ex cop in LA rampage (part II)

chadwick

(we) i have permission to open this thread but the rules are we gotta be good to one another so it remains open this time & that is that.

the dude sucks. the dude is a coward & a freak show. i do not believe he even understands the word honor like he believe he does. he is all talk & a completely dangerous nasty bastage. we are better off as a society with him out of it.

any latest updates? what are you people out in LA hearing.

i am sorry families & friends are suffering/moarning right now. that is hard stuff. also, the LAPD had better learn how to control its officers with their stupid ass fingers on their excitable triggers.

hedonist

*sucked and *was

Good job, chadwick. It was an interesting thread and I hope this one remains lock-free.

Losing someone before their time is tough enough, as most of us know - hell, even losing someone AT their time.

I have zero inkling what it must be to lose someone at the hands of another, of one who apparently stalked his victim(s), thought it was OK to take lives in order to make a point.

Surprisingly - or not? - I haven't heard any follow-up about the officers who opened fire on the mother-daughter paper deliverers without provocation. Makes me wonder how often it's happened before; will it happen again?

Sad stuff all around, my friend.

Jeanwah

How about the LAPD? What will happen to them and their problem with racism? Will it go back the way it was post Rodney King?

PJ_Soul

Jeanwah wrote:

How about the LAPD? What will happen to them and their problem with racism? Will it go back the way it was post Rodney King?

This is what I'm most interested in... The LAPD is considered one of the most fucked up police forces in America - I would really like to see something good come of this miserable story. Major changes in that police force and others (in the US and very very much so in Canada with the RCMP) are desperately needed!! It is a REAL shame that this lunatic went about this the way he did, because if he'd gone about it in a better way, it really could have brought attention to this major problem in N. America. Not that I'm surprised that this fuckpants screwed it up and probably wiped out any current possibility of that happening.

brianlux

Jeanwah wrote:

How about the LAPD? What will happen to them and their problem with racism? Will it go back the way it was post Rodney King?

I agree with some of Chadwick's sentiments because of innocent people suffering and dying but I also agree with what you're saying here, Jeanwah- this department needs some house cleaning- big time.

Jeanwah

brianlux wrote:

Jeanwah wrote:

How about the LAPD? What will happen to them and their problem with racism? Will it go back the way it was post Rodney King?

I agree with some of Chadwick's sentiments because of innocent people suffering and dying but I also agree with what you're saying here, Jeanwah- this department needs some house cleaning- big time.

I do feel for the victims' families, don't get me wrong. I'm just looking at what caused this dumb cop to lose his marbles.

brianlux

Jeanwah wrote:

brianlux wrote:

Jeanwah wrote:

How about the LAPD? What will happen to them and their problem with racism? Will it go back the way it was post Rodney King?

I agree with some of Chadwick's sentiments because of innocent people suffering and dying but I also agree with what you're saying here, Jeanwah- this department needs some house cleaning- big time.

I do feel for the victims' families, don't get me wrong. I'm just looking at what caused this dumb cop to lose his marbles.

Yeah, I would hope all facets of this mess are looked at- especially the issue of racism.

Cosmo

Jeanwah wrote:

How about the LAPD? What will happen to them and their problem with racism? Will it go back the way it was post Rodney King?

...
What is needed is an external assessment of the L.A.P.D. to verify or negate the charges Chris Dorner alleges to have occurred.
All we knew about his specific case is what he wrote in his farewell statement (it was not a 'Manifesto'). He provide case numbers, officers names, etc... Those things, specifically his case number, should be provided to our media outlets to publish.
We only heard Dorner's side of the story and his interpretation of the board hearing.
...
Also... I work for a giant company. I work with people whom express negative racial views.
That does NOT mean i work at a racist company. I work with people that are, otherwise, nice people... except for their distain for Mexicans or Blacks or Jews or the poor or the homeless or whatever... it does not mean my company also expresses and/or supports these opinions.

Cosmo

Jeanwah wrote:

I do feel for the victims' families, don't get me wrong. I'm just looking at what caused this dumb cop to lose his marbles.

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We are never going to know. All of those possibilities went up in smoke when Dorner took his own life.
None of us outside of Dorner's personal life know anything about him other than what has been made available on the Internet. And we all understand, the Internet is 99% bullshit.
...
What he should have done... surrendered and went on trial and aired out his grievences with the L.A.P.D. to the public (even against his attorney's advice).

pandora

The LAPD has many issues, racism just one. I too hope Dorner and his victims receive justice
by punishing those who put this all in motion. Dorner's friends and family as well suffering
and for years since he was wrongfully punished by a corrupt system.

latest ... his body positively identified at 3 pm today and
it's been announced that the department would re-examine its proceedings
against Dorner. The review is to reassure the public that their police department
is transparent and fair in all things they do. Alrighty then.

whgarrett

Obviously the accused was not a stable person. Something happened that pushed him over the edge. The LAPD has its fair share of corruption. What I don't understand is how people think that the LAPD could be anything but corrupt in a cesspool like LA county. NO THANK YOU. You couldn't pay me enough to police that area.

chadwick

whgarrett wrote:

Obviously the accused was not a stable person. Something happened that pushed him over the edge. The LAPD has its fair share of corruption. What I don't understand is how people think that the LAPD could be anything but corrupt in a cesspool like LA county. NO THANK YOU. You couldn't pay me enough to police that area.

thank you. my exact thoughts. you could not pay me to live in LA or any large ass city. fuck the hell off. LA is indeed a fucking circus act hardcore. corruption for drugs & money is the least of the problems.

so a cop pulls someone over and takes their weed bags & cash... good. slaps the shit out of going to jail/prison. this happens 24x7 clear across the country. i like that actually. now racist bullshit is flat out terrible and should not happen.

Cosmo

whgarrett wrote:

Obviously the accused was not a stable person. Something happened that pushed him over the edge. The LAPD has its fair share of corruption. What I don't understand is how people think that the LAPD could be anything but corrupt in a cesspool like LA county. NO THANK YOU. You couldn't pay me enough to police that area.

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That is it. The police is a reflection of what it polices.
And remember, you and I and 95% of the citizens are not who the police interact with. The only time I ever have any interaction with police is when they pull me over for a traffic violation.
Most of the time, they are patrolling the streets and have to deal with the people that you and I don't want to deal with. It is not an easy task.
...
Now, before anyone stomps on my neck, I am not saying the L.A.P.D. are perfect. I understand there are a lot of cops with cop attitudes out there... and a few that harbor racial indifference, in every big city police department in the country. That is not an indictment of the entire department. The L.A.P.D. did not go after O.J. Simpson because he was black... hell, I'm more Black than O.J. They went after him because he was a murderer.
I do think that Dorner's claims should be reviewed and opened to the public... whom they swear and oath to protect and to serve.

Cosmo

chadwick wrote:

so a cop pulls someone over and takes their weed bags & cash... good. slaps the shit out of going to jail/prison. this happens 24x7 clear across the country. i like that actually. now racist bullshit is flat out terrible and should not happen.

...
In the olden days... I got caught up by Mt. Wilson smoking pot with my friends. A Sheriff's Patrol car snuck up behind us with his light off and busted us in the act.
They pulled us out and scared us... but, in the end, made us dump our pot in the dirt and kick it around. They took our ceramic pipe and tossed it over the cliff and told to to get the hell out of there. They actually let me drive down the mountain and told me that if I didn't drive safely, they'd arrest me. We got all the way down the hill with them right on my ass and follwed us for about a mile, then turned and let us go.
From then on, we smoked pot in my griend's garage.

chadwick

Cosmo wrote:

chadwick wrote:

so a cop pulls someone over and takes their weed bags & cash... good. slaps the shit out of going to jail/prison. this happens 24x7 clear across the country. i like that actually. now racist bullshit is flat out terrible and should not happen.

...
In the olden days... I got caught up by Mt. Wilson smoking pot with my friends. A Sheriff's Patrol car snuck up behind us with his light off and busted us in the act.
They pulled us out and scared us... but, in the end, made us dump our pot in the dirt and kick it around. They took our ceramic pipe and tossed it over the cliff and told to to get the hell out of there. They actually let me drive down the mountain and told me that if I didn't drive safely, they'd arrest me. We got all the way down the hill with them right on my ass and follwed us for about a mile, then turned and let us go.
From then on, we smoked pot in my griend's garage.

thank you for sharing your story. nicely done.

hedonist

chadwick wrote:

thank you. my exact thoughts. you could not pay me to live in LA or any large ass city. fuck the hell off. LA is indeed a fucking circus act hardcore. corruption for drugs & money is the least of the problems.

so a cop pulls someone over and takes their weed bags & cash... good. slaps the shit out of going to jail/prison. this happens 24x7 clear across the country. i like that actually. now racist bullshit is flat out terrible and should not happen.

Dude. I've lived here my whole life. I'm a pretty peaceful person and living my life with one who's the same. And we have done well for ourselves without fucking over anyone in any way.

And I'll also say that every officer I've had occasion to come in contact with - and there have been many, in different situations - the majority were professional, kind, and helped when it was most needed.

Gotta put the paintbrush down at some point - or, use it on everyone.

hedonist

I'm also irritated that Judge Judy has been pre-empted by a news conference about Mr. Dorner.

(if anyone catches it, please let me know if I'm way off on the top dude who's speaking looking like an older version of Mike McCready)

norm

Cosmo wrote:

chadwick wrote:

so a cop pulls someone over and takes their weed bags & cash... good. slaps the shit out of going to jail/prison. this happens 24x7 clear across the country. i like that actually. now racist bullshit is flat out terrible and should not happen.

...
In the olden days... I got caught up by Mt. Wilson smoking pot with my friends. A Sheriff's Patrol car snuck up behind us with his light off and busted us in the act.
They pulled us out and scared us... but, in the end, made us dump our pot in the dirt and kick it around. They took our ceramic pipe and tossed it over the cliff and told to to get the hell out of there. They actually let me drive down the mountain and told me that if I didn't drive safely, they'd arrest me. We got all the way down the hill with them right on my ass and follwed us for about a mile, then turned and let us go.
From then on, we smoked pot in my griend's garage.

the 70's were so awesome

chadwick

hedonist wrote:

chadwick wrote:

thank you. my exact thoughts. you could not pay me to live in LA or any large ass city. fuck the hell off. LA is indeed a fucking circus act hardcore. corruption for drugs & money is the least of the problems.

so a cop pulls someone over and takes their weed bags & cash... good. slaps the shit out of going to jail/prison. this happens 24x7 clear across the country. i like that actually. now racist bullshit is flat out terrible and should not happen.

Dude. I've lived here my whole life. I'm a pretty peaceful person and living my life with one who's the same. And we have done well for ourselves without fucking over anyone in any way.

And I'll also say that every officer I've had occasion to come in contact with - and there have been many, in different situations - the majority were professional, kind, and helped when it was most needed.

Gotta put the paintbrush down at some point - or, use it on everyone.

you are good to go there. you are acclimated. would you go nutty living in the sticks or the country where i live? my town has a couple hundred ppl living in it out in the country. my town where i go shopping & to the gym has 10,000 ppl living in it and is a 10 mile drive through the countryside with not one single traffic jam never ever. im good to go here.
our children are driving by age 12 helping their parents on the farms. its a lot of gravel roads & back country roads & the kids are golden and the cops couldn't give two shits.

its only the differences in where we chose to live. i'd go completely out of my skull nuts living in L.A. i visited L.A. & was amazed beyond words...they weren't the best of words either.

i mean no offence to you either... any large city to me is a fucking nightmare.

nyc
atlanta
chicago
cleveland
miami
dallas
las vegas
the list is never ending

chris dorner is a burnt up dead ass cowardly murderer

all those city i mentioned are riddled with corruption as is any large city. its like common knowledge. it's as common as the corruption at the mexico/u.s. border patrol center. it is alive & doing very well.

even cops in small towns are corrupt. it's the way it is for a lot of officers. i kinda like it. in the future if im smoking again i hope he/she takes my bag & money & goes home with it. leaving me to go home without my bud & cash.

hedonist

I might go nutty but wouldn't talk shit about people who live in that environment, especially if they're just...being. Living best they can and not fucking with others in the process. I know it's not for you and I respect that. Just, I hope, you also get that many decent hardworking people live in these big cities. Contribute, work our asses off, donate, etc.

I guess I'm nearing the "enough" overload bar...tired of infighting all around, tired of one-up-ness, egoism, party-shit, the they-suck-but-we-don't mentality. Not directed toward you per se, but fuck me if this isn't a near-constant 'round these parts and 'round many parts.

I'm off to dig me some Beatles, turned up LOUD.

Good for this soul, and then some.

(also gonna greet my sweetie at the door soon with a fatass KISS! And with real, naturally-full and non-injected lips. Take THAT, LA! )

brianlux

Chadwick, Hedonist- peace brother, peace sister. No, seriously, I'm only jumping in here because I've lived equally in both extremes- city and country- and I have to say they both have their good points and there bad. If I had the money, I've have a place in the best of both. But now suburbia- oh yeah, I lived there too. Now that sucks!