Dr. Benjamin Carson

aerialaerial Posts: 2,319
edited February 2013 in A Moving Train
Dr. Benjamin Carson, smart, good ethical qualities , spiritual, and honest! All the qualities that make a good leader....http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PFb6NU1giRA
“We the people are the rightful masters of both Congress and the courts, not to overthrow the Constitution but to overthrow the men who pervert the Constitution.” Abraham Lincoln
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  • STAYSEASTAYSEA Posts: 3,814
    "Gifted Hands" , awesome book. I had no idea he was still alive!

    woops. :oops:
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  • aerialaerial Posts: 2,319
    STAYSEA wrote:
    "Gifted Hands" , awesome book. I had no idea he was still alive!

    woops. :oops:


    What a Speech!!! Yes, he is alive and maybe could be the one that saves this country. I admire His bravery to give a speech while not being afraid of PC. Top it off with honesty and humor!! Obama didn't even clap, but his wife did.... :D
    “We the people are the rightful masters of both Congress and the courts, not to overthrow the Constitution but to overthrow the men who pervert the Constitution.” Abraham Lincoln
  • Great speech.

    However, I am disgusted with people comparing him and Obama, saying he is 100x better than Obama, or vice versa. They are both great men who have great ideas. They both want what is best for the country. Obama's ideas got him elected twice, and so far he has done good things and not so good things.

    I believe Carson can do the same thing. If elected, he will do both good and not so good things.

    If he ran, I may just vote for him.
    ~Carter~

    You can spend your time alone, redigesting past regrets, oh
    or you can come to terms and realize
    you're the only one who can't forgive yourself, oh
    makes much more sense to live in the present tense
    - Present Tense
  • Wow... You're almost as excited about him as you were about those other amazing leaders like Rick Perry, Herman Cain and Rick Santorum.
  • aerial wrote:
    Dr. Benjamin Carson, smart, good ethical qualities , spiritual, and honest! All the qualities that make a good leader....http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PFb6NU1giRA


    So.

    Smart... Yes, that's something that's good. Although there are different kinds of smart. Does he have the right kind? International leadership requires and different kind than brain surgery.

    Spiritual.. No. That's not something that makes you a good leader. It usually makes you a weak-minded follower.

    Honest.. Yeah, and how do you know he is? Because he says the things you want him to say?



    You missed "diplomatic," which is pretty important but not sure he's got that. And missed "experienced."

    He doesn't have that, either.
  • Ok, well I managed to make it through a bit of his screed.

    I love his whine about how he doesn't like "political correctness." A term few conservatives understand.

    But hey... I'm just fine with that. Lets end political correctness. You can feel free to call be a faggot and I'll call you a Christianazi. You can call me Libby and I can call you a conservatard.

    You reduce my family to "what those guys are doing to each other" and I'll point out that Sunday mass is just "the weekly child molesters swap meet."

    Don't you love doing away with "political correctness," which is really just "speaking respectfully to each other?"
  • hedonisthedonist Posts: 24,524
    Ok, well I managed to make it through a bit of his screed.

    I love his whine about how he doesn't like "political correctness." A term few conservatives understand.

    But hey... I'm just fine with that. Lets end political correctness. You can feel free to call be a faggot and I'll call you a Christianazi. You can call me Libby and I can call you a conservatard.

    You reduce my family to "what those guys are doing to each other" and I'll point out that Sunday mass is just "the weekly child molesters swap meet."

    Don't you love doing away with "political correctness," which is really just "speaking respectfully to each other?"
    I don't think your last sentence is correct; they're not the same thing. Plus, I'd rather see people actually BEING respectful of each other, as PC-ness has just become ridiculous, over-the-top lip-service.

    The hatefulness will always be there; I've seen it from you and seen it from others toward you. Can't manufacture respect or acceptance just by dictating the use of words and phrases.

    All it is is a bandaid.
  • hedonist wrote:
    Don't you love doing away with "political correctness," which is really just "speaking respectfully to each other?"
    I don't think your last sentence is correct; they're not the same thing. Plus, I'd rather see people actually BEING respectful of each other, as PC-ness has just become ridiculous, over-the-top lip-service.[/quote]

    Well... But yes, it is correct.

    The term has been used in many ways since the 19th century, but it's current popular use in America came into being in the early 90s when minorities finally began to form alliances and allegiances. When speaking to a group of black voters, Ross Perot kept using the term "you people" and it was widely felt that ruined his chances with many minorities.. The way he clearly looked down on people different than him.

    Minorities were no longer willing to let the white Christian majority define our communities and we began asserrting ourselves and demanding that in debate.. We should be spoken to and about in respectful language. We no longer would allow ourselves to be cast as "the homosexuals" or "the colored." We would now insist on terms and language that we would come up with.. And terms like "the GLBT community" and "African Americans" came into more common use.

    Which is where we get "politically correct terms." Some of them are intentionally funny, ie calling fat people "gravitationally challenged" and some of them are exactly what they're supposed to be... No longer calling people who can't speak "dumb" or people in wheel chairs "crippled."

    Conservatives have tried to tie that in with forcing our opinions and positions on people... Confusing the issue of marriage equality when the real issue is we won't accept it being called "fag weddin."
  • hedonist wrote:
    The hatefulness will always be there; I've seen it from you and seen it from others toward you. Can't manufacture respect or acceptance just by dictating the use of words and phrases.

    All it is is a bandaid.


    I'm not sure I agree about a bandaid.

    I agree that the hatefulness will take a long time to go away. I will continue to be very rude and cold to Mormons, I will still harbor a mistrust of Catholics and I still hope Rick Santorum gets caught blowing his pet goat.



    At least I call them "Mormons" and not "money mafia cultists from Kolob."

    Although.., Hm... That would make a great t-shirt.
  • hedonisthedonist Posts: 24,524
    Well, you're doing the same thing. And whether or not you actually are justified in your position, you're acting no different in your stance and your words than those to whom you direct your vitriol.

    Really doesn't matter when all's said and done, I guess.

    As to PCness...c'mon. "personhole", "sanitation engineer" etc. While I don't disagree with some of your comments about intent, much of it is ridiculously unnecessary, which was my initial point.
  • hedonist wrote:
    Well, you're doing the same thing. And whether or not you actually are justified in your position, you're acting no different in your stance and your words than those to whom you direct your vitriol.

    Which was kind of my point above. It's a two-way street.
    As to PCness...c'mon. "personhole", "sanitation engineer" etc. While I don't disagree with some of your comments about intent, much of it is ridiculously unnecessary, which was my initial point.

    I think we're talking about two totally different things.

    You're talking about silly generic workplace names for jobs and inanimate objects. Not names and phrases when referring to people.

    I'm quite sure when the man in the video above started to go on about Political Correctness, he wasn't complaining about short people calling themselves "gravitationally challenged."

    What he was talking about was - if I understood his point - was how he thinks that conservatives shouldn't worry about offending minorities when they say "if you are poor and can't afford to mend your broken leg, why is that my fault? I want lower taxes so I can buy another golf course."
  • STAYSEASTAYSEA Posts: 3,814
    What does PC have any issues here. I hoped it would not happen.

    Ben told his Grandmother he wanted to be a surgeon when he was only a small child.

    She knew they couldn't afford medical school, but to give him hope, she told him to practice every day and to study everything. For "Practice", she made him tie a knot inside a semi closed match box with only two fingers.
    It was impossible at first to him, but that is what surgeons need to know (she said). He has gifted hands.

    is there a queen of, I Read Stuff? :roll:

    I wish I had that passion and skill.
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  • Ugh... and then he starts in with the "you lower the allowance of two kids but not the other two because they're special and how do you think THOSE others are going to feel? Well... that's says it all... Taxes are so HARD... I could get any one of you on a tax thing!!" (uh... honey? You're a brain surgeon, not an accountant) "well, I open my bible... and there was the FAIREST person of all!!"


    He leaves out the part where Jesus said* to pay taxes and render unto Cesar what is Cesar's, but hey... that would have taken to much time and he had another meaningless folksy story with a totally unrelated moral that he could tie into the "tax the poor people... they're lazy" message he has.

    Why is it that Republicans are so desperate for a black man to hold up as their messenger that they keep getting these knobs like Herman Cain, Michael Steel and this guy? Can't you just admit you're the party of old white guys?






    *Jesus didn't actually say that because Jesus is a made up folk hero. But I digress.
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