How is this not news??

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edited February 2013 in A Moving Train
Federal Agents Arrest Man After He Attempts to Bomb Bank in Oakland
U.S. Attorney’s Office
February 08, 2013

Northern District of California
(415) 436-7200
OAKLAND, CA—Federal agents arrested Matthew Aaron Llaneza, age 28, of San Jose, California, this morning after he allegedly attempted to detonate a vehicle-borne explosive device at a bank branch in Oakland.

Llaneza’s arrest was the culmination of an undercover operation during which he was closely monitored by the FBI’s South Bay Joint Terrorism Task Force. Unbeknownst to Llaneza, the explosive device that he allegedly attempted to use had been rendered inoperable by law enforcement and posed no threat to the public. Llaneza was charged this morning by criminal complaint with attempted use of a weapon of mass destruction against property used in an activity that affects interstate or foreign commerce.

The arrest was announced by Melinda Haag, U.S. Attorney for the Northern District of California; Lisa Monaco, Assistant Attorney General for National Security; and FBI Special Agent in Charge, San Francisco Field Office, David J. Johnson.

According to the affidavit filed in support of the criminal complaint, on November 30, 2012, Llaneza met with a man who led him to believe he was connected with the Taliban and the mujahidin in Afghanistan. In reality, this man was an undercover FBI agent. At this initial meeting, Llaneza proposed conducting a car-bomb attack against a bank in the San Francisco Bay Area. He proposed structuring the attack to make it appear that the responsible party was an umbrella organization for a loose collection of anti-government militias and their sympathizers. Llaneza’s stated goal was to trigger a governmental crackdown, which he expected would trigger a right-wing counter-response against the government followed by, he hoped, civil war.

The complaint further alleges that Llaneza subsequently selected the Bank of America branch at 303 Hegenberger Road in Oakland as the target for the attack. Llaneza ultimately specified a spot next to a support column of the bank building as a good location for the bomb, expressed a desire for the bomb to bring down the entire bank building, and offered to drive the car bomb to the bank at the time of the attack.

According to the complaint, in January and February 2013, Llaneza and the undercover agent constructed the purported explosive device inside a sport utility vehicle (SUV) parked inside a storage facility in Hayward, California. As part of the process of assembling the device, Llaneza purchased two cell phones to be used in creating and operating the trigger device for the car bomb. One of these cell phones was incorporated into the trigger device itself. The other was reserved for use on the night of the attack.

The criminal complaint alleges that on the evening of February 7, 2013, Llaneza drove the SUV containing the purported explosive device to the target bank branch in Oakland. He parked the SUV beneath an overhang of the bank building where he armed the trigger device. He then proceeded on foot to a nearby location a safe distance from the bank building, where he met the undercover agent. Once there, Llaneza attempted to detonate the bomb by using the second cell phone he had purchased to place two calls to the trigger device attached to the car bomb. Federal agents then arrested him.

Llaneza made his initial appearance in federal court in Oakland this morning before U.S. Magistrate Judge Donna M. Ryu. The defendant’s next scheduled appearance is at 9:30 a.m. on February 13, 2013, for a bail hearing before Judge Ryu. If convicted on the charge contained in the criminal complaint, he faces a maximum sentence of life in prison.

The case is being prosecuted by the Special Prosecutions and National Security Unit of the United States Attorney’s Office for the Northern District of California. The prosecution is the result of an investigation by the FBI’s San Jose Resident Agency, with the assistance of the FBI San Francisco Joint Terrorism Task Force, the California Highway Patrol, the San Jose Police Department, the Oakland Police Department, the Hayward Police Department, and the Union City Police Department.

The charges contained in the criminal complaint are mere allegations. As in any criminal case, the defendant is presumed innocent unless and until proven guilty in a court of law.

http://www.fbi.gov/sanfrancisco/press-r ... in-oakland
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  • Well, it is news; (you clipped it from a sanfran croncile).
    Do you mean why isn't it splashed all over the major feeds?
  • JonnyPistachioJonnyPistachio Florida Posts: 10,219
    Sad how the prominence of this news would've been much more far reaching had he detonated the bomb.
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  • Sad how the prominence of this news would've been much more far reaching had he detonated the bomb.

    You've got a good (sad) point.
    Also, what's 'big' in the news depends on what's all currently going on. As in, when there's no 'tragic news', celebrity crap gets churned out.
    Filler. I'd rather read about filler I guess if it means the bombs don't get to their !KAPOW! stage.
  • brianluxbrianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 42,084
    One guy trying to instigate a civil war is not big news. A civil war-- now that would be news.
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  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 38,714
    I wonder how the FBI makes initial contact with these guys? I mean how do they pick them? chatter overheard? These guys get reported for shit they say?

    4 guys up near Cleveland wish they had thought twice about blowing up part of the I80 toll road in NE Ohio. Thwarted by Feebs who also helped them build the thing. Which of course was inert.
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  • aerialaerial Posts: 2,319
    He proposed structuring the attack to make it appear that the responsible party was an umbrella organization for a loose collection of anti-government militias and their sympathizers. Llaneza’s stated goal was to trigger a governmental crackdown, which he expected would trigger a right-wing counter-response against the government followed by, he hoped, civil war.
    This is not news because this administration does not want this type of news out, where everyone that is denial about conspiracies could say.... damned this stuff really happens :o
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  • aerial wrote:
    This is not news because this administration does not want this type of news out, where everyone that is denial about conspiracies could say.... damned this stuff really happens :o

    Oh please.

    If this was "stop the presses, this is a huge story, crazy shit the president doesn't want you to know" stuff, Fox "news" would be running updates every hour or so.

    You really think "this administration" can keep stuff off Fox "news?"

    Because they can't.

    The reason that it hasn't hit the front pages is that There's a crazy spree-killer cop hell-bent on revenge in California, the entire east coast is buried in snow they can't handle, the pope just quit for reason still-unknown, a man who has threatened to murder the president and speaker Pelosi has been invited as a "guest" by a Republican to go see the State Of The Union address and GIRL.... did you see that dress Adele wore last night?

    Fucking hell, did she mug Raggedy Ann?

    The news doesn't have time for yet another insane fruitcake trying to instigate a national crisis when he can't even make a single bomb go boom. I know that because of his political leanings that you wish this was a big story.

    It's not.

    This kind of boob-job happens every week or so.

    zzzzzzzzz
  • aerial wrote:
    where everyone that is denial about conspiracies could say.... damned this stuff really happens :o


    OK, and I guess I should point out that "Conspiracy" requires many people together to "conspire."

    This is just one lunatic who tried to make a bomb.

    Can you at least try to find the definition of words you use in your phony outrage?
  • PJ_SoulPJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 49,963
    Sad how the prominence of this news would've been much more far reaching had he detonated the bomb.
    Well.... it's really just common sense. I'm mean, news is NEWS. A bomb blowing up is just bigger news than a bomb not blowing up, right?

    I assume this story isn't HUGE news because it was a Mickey Mouse attempt, in the scheme of things, and the guy wasn't posing a national threat or anything. It's probably big news for those who live in the local area, since that's who it matters to.
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  • brianluxbrianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 42,084
    PJ_Soul wrote:
    Sad how the prominence of this news would've been much more far reaching had he detonated the bomb.
    Well.... it's really just common sense. I'm mean, news is NEWS. A bomb blowing up is just bigger news than a bomb not blowing up, right?

    I assume this story isn't HUGE news because it was a Mickey Mouse attempt, in the scheme of things, and the guy wasn't posing a national threat or anything. It's probably big news for those who live in the local area, since that's who it matters to.

    That's a great point PJ_Soul!

    A few years ago a portion of Main Street in our town was closed for a while due to a gas leak. Those of us who work downtown were a bit concerned.

    BUT...WELL, LET ME TELL YOU! I'm pretty darned sure it was a commie plot to blow up our nice little town. Surely you all heard about this incident, right?! :lol:
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  • STAYSEASTAYSEA Posts: 3,814
    Well some Sniper in houston just killed two other snipers. The motive is unclear, but he's arrested. They are all retired from duty. I doubt it will make the news... it's been a month.

    Must be about some issue my tiny brain can not understand.




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  • JonnyPistachioJonnyPistachio Florida Posts: 10,219
    PJ_Soul wrote:
    Sad how the prominence of this news would've been much more far reaching had he detonated the bomb.
    Well.... it's really just common sense. I'm mean, news is NEWS. A bomb blowing up is just bigger news than a bomb not blowing up, right?

    I assume this story isn't HUGE news because it was a Mickey Mouse attempt, in the scheme of things, and the guy wasn't posing a national threat or anything. It's probably big news for those who live in the local area, since that's who it matters to.

    I get that, of course.. I guess my point was that its just sad that consumers of news need blood. How did it get that way? And what does it accomplish that we are informed that a bomb went off? or ...That a bomb was discovered before it went off? Nothing either way.Yes, news is news.. and news usually sucks. The worse/suckier it is, the bigger the news. I try hard to tune it out.
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  • PJ_SoulPJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 49,963
    PJ_Soul wrote:
    Sad how the prominence of this news would've been much more far reaching had he detonated the bomb.
    Well.... it's really just common sense. I'm mean, news is NEWS. A bomb blowing up is just bigger news than a bomb not blowing up, right?

    I assume this story isn't HUGE news because it was a Mickey Mouse attempt, in the scheme of things, and the guy wasn't posing a national threat or anything. It's probably big news for those who live in the local area, since that's who it matters to.

    I get that, of course.. I guess my point was that its just sad that consumers of news need blood. How did it get that way? And what does it accomplish that we are informed that a bomb went off? or ...That a bomb was discovered before it went off? Nothing either way.Yes, news is news.. and news usually sucks. The worse/suckier it is, the bigger the news. I try hard to tune it out.
    When people are killed or hurt, or in grave danger, that means more to people. That is just human, and probably not a negative thing. Although I could use a little more positivity in the news... there is always some, but there could be more.
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  • I'm glad they stopped it and no one was hurt.

    And like someone said earlier, if it was an official bomb and exploded, we all would have heard about it, which that is sad because it shows how the US media is. All we hear about is tragic news, but when something great happens and it involves people doing their job well, it does not get reported.
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  • PJ_SoulPJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 49,963
    I'm glad they stopped it and no one was hurt.

    And like someone said earlier, if it was an official bomb and exploded, we all would have heard about it, which that is sad because it shows how the US media is. All we hear about is tragic news, but when something great happens and it involves people doing their job well, it does not get reported.
    But it was reported, and here we are talking about it. ;)
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  • PJ_Soul wrote:
    I'm glad they stopped it and no one was hurt.

    And like someone said earlier, if it was an official bomb and exploded, we all would have heard about it, which that is sad because it shows how the US media is. All we hear about is tragic news, but when something great happens and it involves people doing their job well, it does not get reported.
    But it was reported, and here we are talking about it. ;)

    Let me rephrase, "Not reported on CNN, Fox News, etc." lol ;)
    ~Carter~

    You can spend your time alone, redigesting past regrets, oh
    or you can come to terms and realize
    you're the only one who can't forgive yourself, oh
    makes much more sense to live in the present tense
    - Present Tense
  • Let me rephrase, "Not reported on CNN, Fox News, etc." lol ;)

    If you expect the national news to pounce on every failed bank robbery, bomb threat, heist or carjacking in America, they're going to have to start a whole new network called "Lunatic Fail."
  • PJ_SoulPJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 49,963
    Let me rephrase, "Not reported on CNN, Fox News, etc." lol ;)

    If you expect the national news to pounce on every failed bank robbery, bomb threat, heist or carjacking in America, they're going to have to start a whole new network called "Lunatic Fail."
    Yeah, that's probably true! The national networks do have to pick and choose.... That is a pretty good idea for a new network though. I'd watch that.
    With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
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