When is a Sandy Hook Dad not a Sandy Hook Dad?

Prince Of Dorkness

After Whining About MSNBC’s ‘Deceptive Editing’ the Right Pushes a Fake "Sandy Hook Father."

As if they can't stoop low enough, they have to get a man to pose as a father of a dead child and lie about what he was saying and to whom.

That “Sandy Hook father” who was testifying on “the Hill” about his anti-gun safety legislation stance isn't actually a Sandy Hook father, wasn't actually testifying on the Hill.

About a week after Bill Stevens spoke at a hearing in front of a working group of Connecticut state lawmakers, the Examiner reported matter-of-factly that Stevens’ daughter, Victoria, “attended Sandy Hook Elementary school, scene of the mass shooting in December.”

He himself said his daughter "was in lockdown" and that "her classmate’s little sister was murdered in Sandy Hook that day." Which would lead you to think (and this isn't an accident) that he had a daughter at Sandy Hook.

The next day, Brietbart.com said she “survived the crime at Sandy Hook.”

Daily Caller did the same, reporting she “survived the tragic Sandy Hook Elementary shooting.”

Same story from Townhall.com, as well as here in this forum from our friend ariel.

Problem is that... he doesn't have a daughter who goes to that school.

Read it and weep.

aerial

Why weep?...I think it's great that he tried to straighten out the story.....most everything is still the same...he still has a daughter in school that he wants to protect. Most parents feel the same way.

Prince Of Dorkness

aerial wrote:

Why weep?...I think it's great that he tried to straighten out the story.....most everything is still the same...he still has a daughter in school that he wants to protect. Most parents feel the same way.

Well I think he's more "upset he got caught and is now trying to backpedal."

And he's still an idiot. Putting guns in the hands of trained people (like the two cops who shot the paper girl in LA today) half the time don't know what they fuck they're doing (like the American Sniper who took a PTSD lunatic to a shooting range).

You want an elderly female elementary school librarian to pack heat? Cuz she's really going to be able to use that against a gun freak.

More likely she'll be shot dead and be holding a freshly-loaded gun for him to shoot more kids with. :fp:

Jeanwah

aerial wrote:

Why weep?...I think it's great that he tried to straighten out the story.....most everything is still the same...he still has a daughter in school that he wants to protect. Most parents feel the same way.

Seeing nothing wrong with deliberate misinformation by numerous publications says a lot.

gimmesometruth27

Jeanwah wrote:

aerial wrote:

Why weep?...I think it's great that he tried to straighten out the story.....most everything is still the same...he still has a daughter in school that he wants to protect. Most parents feel the same way.

Seeing nothing wrong with deliberate misinformation by numerous publications says a lot.

most fox news viewers see nothing wrong with misinformation and disinformation..

Bentleyspop

aerial wrote:

Why weep?...I think it's great that he tried to straighten out the story.....most everything is still the same...he still has a daughter in school that he wants to protect. Most parents feel the same way.

I guess it takes a regressive to think that someone lying and obfuscating the truth in order to get out his agenda and to make his point is okay. No matter who it hurts.

Kind of like the Cheney/Rove regime lying in order to get us into an unnecessary war in Iraq

Thirty Bills Unpaid

aerial wrote:

Why weep?...I think it's great that he tried to straighten out the story.....most everything is still the same...he still has a daughter in school that he wants to protect. Most parents feel the same way.

Come on, man.

hedonist

Prince Of Dorkness wrote:

Putting guns in the hands of trained people (like the two cops who shot the paper girl in LA today)

This has been in my head all day since this morning. How the hell can an officer (be ordered to) fire without confirmation of WHO they're firing upon? Those poor women - fortunate they didn't lose their lives because of quick triggering.

I also heard there was a second similar shooting related to this.

badbrains

Jeanwah wrote:

aerial wrote:

Why weep?...I think it's great that he tried to straighten out the story.....most everything is still the same...he still has a daughter in school that he wants to protect. Most parents feel the same way.

Seeing nothing wrong with deliberate misinformation by numerous publications says a lot.

It's right up his/her alley. :corn:

Kat

putting cayenne all over that popcorn....

We talk about the subject here and not each other. Stick to the topic please. Thank you.

brianlux

In the first place, I believe using lies to try to make a point is just plain stupid. But what I really don't understand- can't fathom, really- is how somebody like this Stevens character could make such misleading statements in the wake of such a tragic event. How could he even show his face in that town? Does he live in a cave and creep out at night for his supplies? I don't know enough about the man to say this as a fact, but it sure sounds like he is more interested in his own "right to bear arms" than he is in insuring the safety and well being of children. Very misguided, indeed.

aerial

You all miss understood what I was saying. I don't see where he did anything wrong. It was the media. I feel he was an honest person and got the story straight.
It seems only human to want to protect your child, family and loved ones. Like the lady did when the guy broke into her house and she shot him. It's parental instinct to protect your babies and no one should take that right away. In America.

Thirty Bills Unpaid

aerial wrote:

You all miss understood what I was saying. I don't see where he did anything wrong. It was the media. I feel he was an honest person and got the story straight.
It seems only human to want to protect your child, family and loved ones. Like the lady did when the guy broke into her house and she shot him. It's parental instinct to protect your babies and no one should take that right away. In America.

I can't help myself...

It seems only human to want to protect your child, family and loved ones.

This is the motivation for people to get dangerous weapons off the streets: the real deadly kind. You know... the super efficient killing tools that are either easily concealed or can fire multiple shots in very little time.

Do you understand that nobody is wanting to take the right of a little old lady to use her shotgun or hunting rifle to ward off a home invader? Very effective weapons to protect your babies... but much more limited in its capacity to wreak havoc and death. You know... the kind of gun that offers protection and peace of mind, but no potential for mayhem of the highest order such as cleaning out a movie theater or school in a matter of minutes.

whgarrett

The Right to own and continually buy semiautomatic rifles with 30 round clips is more important than children's safety.

There, I said it.

Prince Of Dorkness

aerial wrote:

You all miss understood what I was saying. I don't see where he did anything wrong. It was the media. I feel he was an honest person and got the story straight.
It seems only human to want to protect your child, family and loved ones. Like the lady did when the guy broke into her house and she shot him. It's parental instinct to protect your babies and no one should take that right away. In America.

The lady in your silly story was using a .38 hand gun and nobody thinks she did the wrong thing.

You, however, used that as support for letting mentally ill lunatics buy as many AK47s as they want.

Jeanwah

whgarrett wrote:

The Right to own and continually buy semiautomatic rifles with 30 round clips is more important than children's safety.

There, I said it.

Ya know, baiting is considered trolling. That goes with what you said in the fetus' have no souls thread as well. I won't be biting and I can hope no one else does either...

aerial

Prince Of Dorkness wrote:

aerial wrote:

You all miss understood what I was saying. I don't see where he did anything wrong. It was the media. I feel he was an honest person and got the story straight.
It seems only human to want to protect your child, family and loved ones. Like the lady did when the guy broke into her house and she shot him. It's parental instinct to protect your babies and no one should take that right away. In America.

The lady in your silly story was using a .38 hand gun and nobody thinks she did the wrong thing.

You, however, used that as support for letting mentally ill lunatics buy as many AK47s as they want.

What are you talking about? I never said that.... :roll:

whgarrett

You are correct Jeanwah. I apologize. :oops: I do, however, believe in principle, the Second Amendment(encompassing semiautomatic weapons with 30 round clips) is more important than 30 children's lives. It sounds harsh, but my truth. I was merely responding to what Brian said about the fake Sandy father who cared more about the 2nd than kid's safety.

The other thread is something else altogether, but I do acknowledge I have a tendency to be trollish.

I will work on it.

Thirty Bills Unpaid

whgarrett wrote:

You are correct Jeanwah. I apologize. :oops: I do, however, believe in principle, the Second Amendment(encompassing semiautomatic weapons with 30 round clips) is more important than 30 children's lives. It sounds harsh, but my truth. I was merely responding to what Brian said about the fake Sandy father who cared more about the 2nd than kid's safety.

The other thread is something else altogether, but I do acknowledge I have a tendency to be trollish.

I will work on it.

What? Are you for real? Who says something like this?

The next 30 children's lives as well?

whgarrett

Hey man. It's just an opinion. Everyone has one, right?

Thirty Bills Unpaid

whgarrett wrote:

Hey man. It's just an opinion. Everyone has one, right?

I suppose. But so do racists and so does the Taliban and so do... ah forget it.

Depressing. This is what I debated against on this forum? This is the mentality of the pro-gun crowd? No wonder so many were so stubbornly opposed to gun restrictions- they care more for the guns than they do for the nation's children.

Not good.