You didn't know Hillary started the birther movement?
The photos are shopped! There will always be an idiot or two!
None of that means the movement is racist!
And now a serious answer...
first... saying that Hillary Clinton started the birther movement is not only stupid, it's FUCKING stupid. I will give that no more attention and like the rest of the crap, we can flush it here and now.
second... no, actually, those pictures are NOT photoshopped and if you'd like me to post videos where many of them appear, I could do that... I can promise you that there is no such thing as a CGI animator who has enough time on his hands to create whole videos with that many racist people and racist signs.
And finally... if the whole movement isn't racist... when that man showed up with his monkey doll and Obama sign... how come the ONLY reaction from pretty much everyone there was just laughter and support? I don't think I've ever seen anyone from those Tea "party" rallies shouting down obvious racist imagery. Have you?
That feeling that you felt as you just read what I wrote to you, take that times 100, just cause we disagree with Obama the media portrayed us as racists! Now you actually see how it feels. So who is the asshole, me or those who drew first blood?
She's got some voice on her. I like that I don't need to see her to appreciate it.
She blew me away at the 121212 concert. (On tv, I wasn't there.) Not really my type of music but she just ripped through her performance. And I though she did great last night.
Hillary Clinton was Obamas first enemy when running for president! She brought up birther ism got it?
No, she didn't.
As usual POD you are CORRECT....she did not....it started as early as 2004...and was later floated ANONYMOUSLY in an email frmo UNKOWN Clinton staffers.....she as has never been seen or heard saying or even implying it....
From Politico....
Birtherism is the latest and most enduring version of a theory in search of facts.
The original smear against Obama was that he was a crypto-Muslim, floated in 2004 by perennial Illinois political candidate and serial litigant Andy Martin. Other related versions of this theory alleged that Obama was educated in an Indonesian “madrassa” or steeped in Islamist ideology from a young age, and the theories began to spread virally after Obama appeared on the national stage – to the casual observer, from nowhere – with his early 2007 presidential campaign announcement. (See: Obama kin: Birther rumors 'a shame')
All through that year, the Obama campaign – with the affirmation of most leaders of both parties – aggressively battled that smear by emphasizing his Christian faith. Obama’s controversial but emphatically Christian pastor emerged as a campaign issue and the belief that he was a Muslim seemed to lose traction. (See: Clinton: Birther claims 'ludicrous')
Then, as Obama marched toward the presidency, a new suggestion emerged: That he was not eligible to serve. (See: Birther debate alive across U.S.)
That theory first emerged in the spring of 2008, as Clinton supporters circulated an anonymous email questioning Obama’s citizenship.
“Barack Obama’s mother was living in Kenya with his Arab-African father late in her pregnancy. She was not allowed to travel by plane then, so Barack Obama was born there and his mother then took him to Hawaii to register his birth,” asserted one chain email that surfaced on the urban legend site Snopes.com in April 2008.
Another early version of the theory, reported by the Chicago Tribune in June 2008, depended on a specious legal theory that was, for a time, the heart of the argument: that Obama was born in Hawaii but had a Kenyan father, and his mother was only 18 years old. Therefore, under existing immigration law, he was not eligible for automatic citizenship upon birth — a claim that depended on an understandable, but incorrect, reading of immigration law. Other theories suggested that Obama lost his U.S. citizenship when he moved to Indonesia or visited Pakistan in violation of a supposed State Department ban as a young man. (There was no such ban.)
But it dawned on even the most stubborn anti-Obama lawyers that federal courts were not going to recognize their exotic theories of citizenship, and they narrowed their focus on a claim that, if true, might have disqualified Obama, and resonated with the impulse to view him as foreign.
No single author claims parentage for this theory, now advanced by Trump. Even Martin disavows what became the heart of contemporary birther theory – that the president was born in Kenya and smuggled back into the country.
“I’m absolutely convinced he was born in Hawaii,” he told POLITICO.
At least she didn't mess up the lyrics and actually sang into a mic while playing an instrument :P
Actually, she did mess up the lyrics at the end. It's not
IN the home of the brave
and it most certainly isn't that followed by
living in the home of the brave
It is
AND the home of the brave (hold the note)
If you're going to make our National Anthem about you at least sing the actual lyrics. It was obvious she was trying to be the new Whitney. The big difference - Whitney's version was actually beautiful and patriotic. This one was self indulgent.
Sorry. The world doesn't work the way you tell it to.
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With all due respect, I've always wondered why we adopted a national anthem that is so bloody difficult to song in the first place. Shouldn't it be something most people can sing?
“The fear of death follows from the fear of life. A man [or woman] who lives fully is prepared to die at any time.”
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And now a serious answer...
first... saying that Hillary Clinton started the birther movement is not only stupid, it's FUCKING stupid. I will give that no more attention and like the rest of the crap, we can flush it here and now.
second... no, actually, those pictures are NOT photoshopped and if you'd like me to post videos where many of them appear, I could do that... I can promise you that there is no such thing as a CGI animator who has enough time on his hands to create whole videos with that many racist people and racist signs.
And finally... if the whole movement isn't racist... when that man showed up with his monkey doll and Obama sign... how come the ONLY reaction from pretty much everyone there was just laughter and support? I don't think I've ever seen anyone from those Tea "party" rallies shouting down obvious racist imagery. Have you?
Can you... post some proof?
What the absolute fuck?
Hillary Clinton was Obamas first enemy when running for president! She brought up birther ism got it?
A man that stands for nothing....will fall for anything!
All people need to do more on every level!
Hillary Clinton was Obamas first enemy when running for president! She brought up birther ism got it?
A man that stands for nothing....will fall for anything!
All people need to do more on every level!
"...I changed by not changing at all..."
No, she didn't.
She blew me away at the 121212 concert. (On tv, I wasn't there.) Not really my type of music but she just ripped through her performance. And I though she did great last night.
"...I changed by not changing at all..."
As usual POD you are CORRECT....she did not....it started as early as 2004...and was later floated ANONYMOUSLY in an email frmo UNKOWN Clinton staffers.....she as has never been seen or heard saying or even implying it....
From Politico....
Birtherism is the latest and most enduring version of a theory in search of facts.
The original smear against Obama was that he was a crypto-Muslim, floated in 2004 by perennial Illinois political candidate and serial litigant Andy Martin. Other related versions of this theory alleged that Obama was educated in an Indonesian “madrassa” or steeped in Islamist ideology from a young age, and the theories began to spread virally after Obama appeared on the national stage – to the casual observer, from nowhere – with his early 2007 presidential campaign announcement. (See: Obama kin: Birther rumors 'a shame')
All through that year, the Obama campaign – with the affirmation of most leaders of both parties – aggressively battled that smear by emphasizing his Christian faith. Obama’s controversial but emphatically Christian pastor emerged as a campaign issue and the belief that he was a Muslim seemed to lose traction. (See: Clinton: Birther claims 'ludicrous')
Then, as Obama marched toward the presidency, a new suggestion emerged: That he was not eligible to serve. (See: Birther debate alive across U.S.)
That theory first emerged in the spring of 2008, as Clinton supporters circulated an anonymous email questioning Obama’s citizenship.
“Barack Obama’s mother was living in Kenya with his Arab-African father late in her pregnancy. She was not allowed to travel by plane then, so Barack Obama was born there and his mother then took him to Hawaii to register his birth,” asserted one chain email that surfaced on the urban legend site Snopes.com in April 2008.
Another early version of the theory, reported by the Chicago Tribune in June 2008, depended on a specious legal theory that was, for a time, the heart of the argument: that Obama was born in Hawaii but had a Kenyan father, and his mother was only 18 years old. Therefore, under existing immigration law, he was not eligible for automatic citizenship upon birth — a claim that depended on an understandable, but incorrect, reading of immigration law. Other theories suggested that Obama lost his U.S. citizenship when he moved to Indonesia or visited Pakistan in violation of a supposed State Department ban as a young man. (There was no such ban.)
But it dawned on even the most stubborn anti-Obama lawyers that federal courts were not going to recognize their exotic theories of citizenship, and they narrowed their focus on a claim that, if true, might have disqualified Obama, and resonated with the impulse to view him as foreign.
No single author claims parentage for this theory, now advanced by Trump. Even Martin disavows what became the heart of contemporary birther theory – that the president was born in Kenya and smuggled back into the country.
“I’m absolutely convinced he was born in Hawaii,” he told POLITICO.
Here's the whole article.... http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0411/53563.html
Actually, she did mess up the lyrics at the end. It's not
IN the home of the brave
and it most certainly isn't that followed by
living in the home of the brave
It is
AND the home of the brave (hold the note)
If you're going to make our National Anthem about you at least sing the actual lyrics. It was obvious she was trying to be the new Whitney. The big difference - Whitney's version was actually beautiful and patriotic. This one was self indulgent.
:P
I think it's a beautiful anthem, by the way - one that can be sung by anyone!
(now whether it's sung well or not is another story)
shouldnt it be on AET? or even Other Music?
!!
Not today Sir, Probably not tomorrow.............................................. bayfront arena st. pete '94
you're finally here and I'm a mess................................................... nationwide arena columbus '10
memories like fingerprints are slowly raising.................................... first niagara center buffalo '13
another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '14
I was hoping somebody would ask this.