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  • unsungunsung Posts: 9,487
    OK... Abortion is not "murder" and until something can live outside the body and become a person, it's not a person.



    Is it life?
  • unsung wrote:
    OK... Abortion is not "murder" and until something can live outside the body and become a person, it's not a person.



    Is it life?

    Yes, and so are anal warts but I'm sure you have no problem burning those off.
  • USARAYUSARAY Posts: 517
    anotherbashing conservativesthreads :lol: how fuckinoriginal quess theliberals have arealneed seems all they do
    is
    focus on that yeah lots oflifelost in legalmurder isee the analogy and the right to fight for theunborns right to life
    never understood
    how liberalscan
    justify all the death ofinnocents i guess by notlooking at it they got a lot ofblood on theirhands with theirsupport
  • BentleyspopBentleyspop Posts: 10,769
    USARAY wrote:
    anotherbashing conservativesthreads :lol: how fuckinoriginal quess theliberals have arealneed seems all they do
    is
    focus on that yeah lots oflifelost in legalmurder isee the analogy and the right to fight for theunborns right to life
    never understood
    how liberalscan
    justify all the death ofinnocents i guess by notlooking at it they got a lot ofblood on theirhands with theirsupport

    Seriously you need this more than anyone else on here....

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    :lol:
  • USARAYUSARAY Posts: 517
    USARAY wrote:
    anotherbashing conservativesthreads :lol: how fuckinoriginal quess theliberals have arealneed seems all they do
    is
    focus on that yeah lots oflifelost in legalmurder isee the analogy and the right to fight for theunborns right to life
    never understood
    how liberalscan
    justify all the death ofinnocents i guess by notlooking at it they got a lot ofblood on theirhands with theirsupport

    Seriously you need this more than anyone else on here....

    AAAspecebar_zps26f0aced.png

    :lol:
    :lol: ifyou only knew
  • is he joking? clinton is more progressive and more of a "liberal" than obama is. if they would not work with obama why would they work with clinton?? if she had won, their playbook would have been exactly the same, to make her a one term president. paul ryan is LYING...

    Paul Ryan: Hillary Clinton Would Have 'Fixed This Fiscal Mess'

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/01/2 ... 61817.html

    WASHINGTON -- Former Republican vice presidential candidate Rep. Paul Ryan (Wis.) said Sunday that if Secretary of State Hillary Clinton were president, the nation's fiscal crisis would have been averted.

    “Look, if we had a [Hillary] Clinton presidency, if we had Erskine Bowles as chief of staff of the White House or president of the United States, I think we would have fixed this fiscal mess by now," Ryan said on NBC's "Meet the Press." "[But] that’s not the kind of presidency we’re dealing with right now.” Bowles was chief of staff to former President Bill Clinton, and currently co-chairs the Campaign to Fix The Debt, a bipartisan deficit reduction effort.

    The praise was especially noteworthy because speculation abounds in Washington over both Ryan and Clinton's presidential prospects in 2016, although neither has responded to questions about their future plans.

    Considered a major star in the GOP, Ryan was noncommittal about plans to run for president in 2016. Asked what he thinks about running, he said, “I don’t.”

    “I think it’s just premature," he added, "I’ve got a job to do. I represent Wisconsin, I’m chairman of the budget committee at the time we have a fiscal crisis.” In the couched translation of Washington-speak, Ryan's response leaves the door wide open for him to run.

    In one of a number of jabs at President Obama during his first live interview since losing the November election, Ryan said, "I don't think that the president thinks we actually have a fiscal crisis." He even pulled out a chart to show host David Gregory the dangers of runaway government spending.

    Ryan said he believes sequestration, a series of steep cuts to federal spending, "will happen," and blamed congressional Democrats for opposing his efforts and those of other House Republicans to cut other spending instead. Ryan said that if he and GOP running mate Mitt Romney had won the election, the so-called "fiscal cliiff" battle wouldn't have resulted in a failure to pass a budget "because we would have gone and worked with Democrats and Republicans in Congress."

    The chairman of the House Budget Committee weighed in on what the Republican party should learn from electoral defeats for the White House and a handful of key Senate races. "Obviously, we have to expand our appeal," he said. "We have to expand our appeal to more people and show how we'll take the country's founding principles and apply them to the problem of the day, solutions to fix our problems.

    "We have to show our ideas are better at fighting poverty, better at solving health care, how our ideas are better at solving problems that people experience in their daily lives," he continued. "And that's a challenge we have to rise to, and I think we're up for it."

    To that end, Ryan was quick to reject the notion that Republicans in the House were willing to shut down the government, which some of the most conservative members of the chamber had suggested could be a good thing at the height of the budget debates in December.

    "We're not interested in shutting the government down," he said. "What happens on March 1 is spending goes down automatically. March 27 is … the moment you're talking about, the continuing resolution expires. We are more than happy to keep spending at those levels going on into the future while we debate how to balance the budget, grow the economy, create economic opportunity. That's the kind of debate the country deserves."
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • i watched real time friday night and was appalled by this guy saying obama calling right wing republicans "right wing" is name calling and in an insult... :fp:

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/01/2 ... 58111.html

    Bill Maher & Howard Dean Defend Obama Inauguration From GOP Panelists

    On Friday night, Bill Maher hosted his first show of President Obama's second term. But based on the panel discussion which included the liberal former Vermont governor Howard Dean as well as conservatives GOPAC president David Avella and Republican pollster Kristen Soltis, one might think the election was still raging on.

    Avella blasted Obama's inauguration speech. After pointing out that Obama made a direct dig at House Republicans by decrying "name-calling" despite doing his own name-calling just a week later, Avella was questioned by Maher exactly what name-calling Obama participated in.

    "Well, he talked about right-wing Republicans..." Avella said.

    "Really? That's a name-call? 'Right-wing' is a name-call?" Maher asked, to Avella's affirmation. "I got so many worse than that."

    Maher asked for polite alternatives to calling someone "right-wing," to which Avella replied, "He could have said 'conservatives,' he could have said 'my friends on the other side of the aisle.'"

    Soltis agreed that Obama's speech was too partisan.

    "The theme of this speech was 'you didn't build that,' but this time it's not a gaffe. It was the speech," she said
    .

    Dean took issue. "I thought the speech was something Americans ought to embrace, which was equal rights for all Americans," he said, to much audience applause.

    "I thought it was American," he continued. "And it's about time the President of the United States stood up to all this crazy crap on the right wing."

    Watch the clip from Friday's "Real Time" above, in which the panel also has a spirited discussion over Hillary Clinton's testimony about the Benghazi tragedy.


    i wish i could get offended when people call me "left wing" or liberal, or socialist, etc....because that has not been socially acceptable at all since 2008 :roll:
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • brianluxbrianlux Posts: 42,051
    i watched real time friday night and was appalled by this guy saying obama calling right wing republicans "right wing" is name calling and in an insult... :fp:

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/01/2 ... 58111.html

    Bill Maher & Howard Dean Defend Obama Inauguration From GOP Panelists

    On Friday night, Bill Maher hosted his first show of President Obama's second term. But based on the panel discussion which included the liberal former Vermont governor Howard Dean as well as conservatives GOPAC president David Avella and Republican pollster Kristen Soltis, one might think the election was still raging on.

    Avella blasted Obama's inauguration speech. After pointing out that Obama made a direct dig at House Republicans by decrying "name-calling" despite doing his own name-calling just a week later, Avella was questioned by Maher exactly what name-calling Obama participated in.

    "Well, he talked about right-wing Republicans..." Avella said.

    "Really? That's a name-call? 'Right-wing' is a name-call?" Maher asked, to Avella's affirmation. "I got so many worse than that."

    Maher asked for polite alternatives to calling someone "right-wing," to which Avella replied, "He could have said 'conservatives,' he could have said 'my friends on the other side of the aisle.'"

    Soltis agreed that Obama's speech was too partisan.

    "The theme of this speech was 'you didn't build that,' but this time it's not a gaffe. It was the speech," she said
    .

    Dean took issue. "I thought the speech was something Americans ought to embrace, which was equal rights for all Americans," he said, to much audience applause.

    "I thought it was American," he continued. "And it's about time the President of the United States stood up to all this crazy crap on the right wing."

    Watch the clip from Friday's "Real Time" above, in which the panel also has a spirited discussion over Hillary Clinton's testimony about the Benghazi tragedy.


    i wish i could get offended when people call me "left wing" or liberal, or socialist, etc....because that has not been socially acceptable at all since 2008 :roll:

    I totally agree, gimme. This goes back even further. I can't find the link, but clear back in the 90's SNL did a skit about "The Liberal" around the time the right began it's attempt to re-start the McCarthy era. This long running smear campaign has gotten old and tired while at the same time the right continues to sabotage itself with over-the-top wild accusations (for example, the lame attempts to discredit climate scientists.)
    “The fear of death follows from the fear of life. A man [or woman] who lives fully is prepared to die at any time.”
    Variously credited to Mark Twain or Edward Abbey.













  • aerialaerial Posts: 2,319
    Both Parties are out of touch.....Neither are looking out for the American people
    I don't believe they are trying to keep women down...they are trying to keep the American People down (under control)
    Check out what a Boom Town Washington has become.....
    and the Nepotism that is going on (has been going on)
    It's a private "clique".......
    Look at the legislation that is passed.....most will benefit few.....
    Our representatives (left and right) are business people and Business is booming in Washington....
    When someone tries to come to Washington to change the norm they get ridiculed because they don't have media backing.......or should I say they don't own any media outlets.....
    We don't need business men (though business knowledge is a plus) running this country, we need Brave men and women with a dedication to Country. The American people need to stop the Me attitudes and look out for each other and this country. :idea:

    Abortion.....if it is not a life why get rid of it?
    “We the people are the rightful masters of both Congress and the courts, not to overthrow the Constitution but to overthrow the men who pervert the Constitution.” Abraham Lincoln
  • aerial wrote:
    Both Parties are out of touch.....

    if that is the case, why is it that one party, despite recent drubbings at the polls, continue to push the same issues forward? repealing obamacare, outlawing abortion, banning gay marriage, tax cuts for the ultra wealthy, corporate personhood, etc... these are all cornerstones of the republican party platform, which, in case they missed it, was patently rejected by american voters just 2.5 months ago. one would think that they would become more center right than hard right, but as a whole, they are stubborn and ignorant.

    there is one party pushing for gay rights, one party pushing for equality, one party pushing for women's rights, one party pushing for affordable health care for all, one party trying to raise revenue, cut spending and deficit reduction, and then there is one party who opposes all of that. i think the choice is pretty easy.

    aerial, if you think the democrats in congress are so out of step and out of touch with the american voter, be my guest and start your own thread and post your articles containing evidence of your position in that thread.

    the gop is backwards, and it wants to take out country backwards, and this thread serves as evidence to show that.
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • aerialaerial Posts: 2,319
    aerial wrote:
    Both Parties are out of touch.....

    if that is the case, why is it that one party, despite recent drubbings at the polls, continue to push the same issues forward? repealing obamacare, outlawing abortion, banning gay marriage, tax cuts for the ultra wealthy, corporate personhood, etc... these are all cornerstones of the republican party platform, which, in case they missed it, was patently rejected by american voters just 2.5 months ago. one would think that they would become more center right than hard right, but as a whole, they are stubborn and ignorant.
    there is one party pushing for gay rights, one party pushing for equality, one party pushing for women's rights, one party pushing for affordable health care for all, one party trying to raise revenue, cut spending and deficit reduction, and then there is one party who opposes all of that. i think the choice is pretty easy.

    aerial, if you think the democrats in congress are so out of step and out of touch with the american voter, be my guest and start your own thread and post your articles containing evidence of your position in that thread.

    the gop is backwards, and it wants to take out country backwards, and this thread serves as evidence to show that.

    Obamacare has not been repealed.....
    Who outlawed abortion
    The wealthy did get a btax cut and the middle class got a tax increase .....I am paying $40 a month more


    one party cutting spending and deficit reduction,
    :lol:

    there is one party pushing for gay rights, one party pushing for equality, one party pushing for women's rights,
    Example of ME ME ME
    gay's have rights
    women have rights...
    “We the people are the rightful masters of both Congress and the courts, not to overthrow the Constitution but to overthrow the men who pervert the Constitution.” Abraham Lincoln
  • HMMMMM The problems of our current situation are dire and the Democrats are in the drivers seat, and we never see any posts on this forum that criticize Dems and their current wrongdoings. The world could be on fire and liberals will attack, divide, deceive and devour! Isolate, freeze, attack and divide...then repeat!

    Cmon guys. You gotta be kiddin me!

    We havent even seen a budget in 4 years now.
    We havent seen transparency on meaningful things at all.

    For the rest of our futures any liberal or Democrat can easily get away with calling conservatives mean just for the fact that conservatives want to cut spending. That is the easiest argument. Anyone who wants to take away someone elses entitlements, money or budgets is mean and nasty! WOW From here on out, its never going to end.

    The public has been brainwashed! Conservatives will always be mean in the eyes of the un-informed!

    Where is the credit for trying to be fiscal?

    Where is the credit for trying to balance a budget and make cuts?

    We are done!
    Theres no time like the present

    A man that stands for nothing....will fall for anything!

    All people need to do more on every level!
  • BentleyspopBentleyspop Posts: 10,769
    HMMMMM The problems of our current situation are dire and the Democrats are in the drivers seat, and we never see any posts on this forum that criticize Dems and their current wrongdoings. The world could be on fire and liberals will attack, divide, deceive and devour! Isolate, freeze, attack and divide...then repeat!

    Cmon guys. You gotta be kiddin me!

    We havent even seen a budget in 4 years now.
    We havent seen transparency on meaningful things at all.

    For the rest of our futures any liberal or Democrat can easily get away with calling conservatives mean just for the fact that conservatives want to cut spending. That is the easiest argument. Anyone who wants to take away someone elses entitlements, money or budgets is mean and nasty! WOW From here on out, its never going to end.

    The public has been brainwashed! Conservatives will always be mean in the eyes of the un-informed!

    Where is the credit for trying to be fiscal?

    Where is the credit for trying to balance a budget and make cuts?

    We are done!

    Let's see.....how do I put this......oh yeah....

    I am not a conservative nor a republican. Im a middle class white guy who is not part of Romneys 47%.
    I do not get, take, or expect any entitlements. But what I am not is an old white guy living in the 50s

    The republicans in office and most of the old white guys who put them there are ...

    Anti women
    anti immigrant (legal and otherwise)
    anti black
    anti youth
    anti gay
    anti hispanic
    anti asian
    anti handicapped
    anti lower class white people
    anti anyone who does not look, act, or think like them

    The U.S. is changing and the old white guys can't accept change. And clearly neither can you :nono:
  • HMMMMM The problems of our current situation are dire and the Democrats are in the drivers seat, and we never see any posts on this forum that criticize Dems and their current wrongdoings. The world could be on fire and liberals will attack, divide, deceive and devour! Isolate, freeze, attack and divide...then repeat!

    Cmon guys. You gotta be kiddin me!

    We havent even seen a budget in 4 years now.
    We havent seen transparency on meaningful things at all.

    For the rest of our futures any liberal or Democrat can easily get away with calling conservatives mean just for the fact that conservatives want to cut spending. That is the easiest argument. Anyone who wants to take away someone elses entitlements, money or budgets is mean and nasty! WOW From here on out, its never going to end.

    The public has been brainwashed! Conservatives will always be mean in the eyes of the un-informed!

    Where is the credit for trying to be fiscal?

    Where is the credit for trying to balance a budget and make cuts?

    We are done!

    Let's see.....how do I put this......oh yeah....

    I am not a conservative nor a republican. Im a middle class white guy who is not part of Romneys 47%.
    I do not get, take, or expect any entitlements. But what I am not is an old white guy living in the 50s

    The republicans in office and most of the old white guys who put them there are ...

    Anti women
    anti immigrant (legal and otherwise)
    anti black
    anti youth
    anti gay
    anti hispanic
    anti asian
    anti handicapped
    anti lower class white people
    anti anyone who does not look, act, or think like them

    The U.S. is changing and the old white guys can't accept change. And clearly neither can you :nono:

    WOW! You brought me into it personally! LOL Republicans have the only black senator. We had Mia Love and Allen West. We have Herman Cain. We have Condi Rice and Colin Powell. We have Ted Cruz and other Hispanics. Republicans are the civil rights advocates. We are the party of civil rights. You ever look at history? TRUTH AND FACTS. Martin Luther King was a Republican. His father was a Republican.

    Sounds like you really bit into that bite of propaganda that the liberal news feeds you!

    You dont know me personally, so dont judge me personally.

    All my policies come from facts, common sense and faith! Its that simple.

    I dont believe in emotions and feelings for policy....i believe in facts, common sense and reality!
    Theres no time like the present

    A man that stands for nothing....will fall for anything!

    All people need to do more on every level!
  • BentleyspopBentleyspop Posts: 10,769
    edited January 2013
    HMMMMM The problems of our current situation are dire and the Democrats are in the drivers seat, and we never see any posts on this forum that criticize Dems and their current wrongdoings. The world could be on fire and liberals will attack, divide, deceive and devour! Isolate, freeze, attack and divide...then repeat!

    Cmon guys. You gotta be kiddin me!

    We havent even seen a budget in 4 years now.
    We havent seen transparency on meaningful things at all.

    For the rest of our futures any liberal or Democrat can easily get away with calling conservatives mean just for the fact that conservatives want to cut spending. That is the easiest argument. Anyone who wants to take away someone elses entitlements, money or budgets is mean and nasty! WOW From here on out, its never going to end.

    The public has been brainwashed! Conservatives will always be mean in the eyes of the un-informed!

    Where is the credit for trying to be fiscal?

    Where is the credit for trying to balance a budget and make cuts?

    We are done!

    Let's see.....how do I put this......oh yeah....

    I am not a conservative nor a republican. Im a middle class white guy who is not part of Romneys 47%.
    I do not get, take, or expect any entitlements. But what I am not is an old white guy living in the 50s

    The republicans in office and most of the old white guys who put them there are ...

    Anti women
    anti immigrant (legal and otherwise)
    anti black
    anti youth
    anti gay
    anti hispanic
    anti asian
    anti handicapped
    anti lower class white people
    anti anyone who does not look, act, or think like them

    The U.S. is changing and the old white guys can't accept change. And clearly neither can you :nono:

    WOW! You brought me into it personally! LOL Republicans have the only black senator. We had Mia Love and Allen West. We have Herman Cain. We have Condi Rice and Colin Powell. We have Ted Cruz and other Hispanics. Republicans are the civil rights advocates. We are the party of civil rights. You ever look at history? TRUTH AND FACTS. Martin Luther King was a Republican. His father was a Republican.

    Sounds like you really bit into that bite of propaganda that the liberal news feeds you!

    You dont know me personally, so dont judge me personally.

    All my policies come from facts, common sense and faith! Its that simple.

    I dont believe in emotions and feelings for policy....i believe in facts, common sense and reality!

    If you did indeed believe in facts, coomon sense and reality then you would know that it's a common misconception that MLK was a republican. The claims by the GOP that King was one of them is based purely on specuiation. King never expressed an affiliation with nor endorsed candidates for any political party. Even his son MLK III said it is disingenuous to imply that his father was a republican. That not ooly did he never endorse any candidate there is no evidence that he ever voted for a republican.
    in addition....
    Colin Powell often speaks out against the GOP and has implied the GOP is behind the times and racist
    Herman Cain is not a politician but he is a joke and does love himself some white women
    Tim Scott was appointed to his seat so the GOP could say they have the only black senator
    Mia Love is a Mormon so not taken seriously by most people
    Allen west....who??

    This is America we are all free to believe what we want and to have opinions.
    This country is changing no matter what you or I say and or do.
    So the sooner more people accept the change the better off we will all be
    Post edited by Bentleyspop on
  • brianluxbrianlux Posts: 42,051
    HMMMMM The problems of our current situation are dire and the Democrats are in the drivers seat, and we never see any posts on this forum that criticize Dems and their current wrongdoings. The world could be on fire and liberals will attack, divide, deceive and devour! Isolate, freeze, attack and divide...then repeat!

    Cmon guys. You gotta be kiddin me!

    We havent even seen a budget in 4 years now.
    We havent seen transparency on meaningful things at all.

    For the rest of our futures any liberal or Democrat can easily get away with calling conservatives mean just for the fact that conservatives want to cut spending. That is the easiest argument. Anyone who wants to take away someone elses entitlements, money or budgets is mean and nasty! WOW From here on out, its never going to end.

    The public has been brainwashed! Conservatives will always be mean in the eyes of the un-informed!

    Where is the credit for trying to be fiscal?

    Where is the credit for trying to balance a budget and make cuts?

    We are done!

    Let's see.....how do I put this......oh yeah....

    I am not a conservative nor a republican. Im a middle class white guy who is not part of Romneys 47%.
    I do not get, take, or expect any entitlements. But what I am not is an old white guy living in the 50s

    The republicans in office and most of the old white guys who put them there are ...

    Anti women
    anti immigrant (legal and otherwise)
    anti black
    anti youth
    anti gay
    anti hispanic
    anti asian
    anti handicapped
    anti lower class white people
    anti anyone who does not look, act, or think like them

    The U.S. is changing and the old white guys can't accept change. And clearly neither can you :nono:

    WOW! You brought me into it personally! LOL Republicans have the only black senator. We had Mia Love and Allen West. We have Herman Cain. We have Condi Rice and Colin Powell. We have Ted Cruz and other Hispanics. Republicans are the civil rights advocates. We are the party of civil rights. You ever look at history? TRUTH AND FACTS. Martin Luther King was a Republican. His father was a Republican.

    Sounds like you really bit into that bite of propaganda that the liberal news feeds you!

    You dont know me personally, so dont judge me personally.

    All my policies come from facts, common sense and faith! Its that simple.

    I dont believe in emotions and feelings for policy....i believe in facts, common sense and reality!

    Ok so yo have "Herm" Cain, "Condi Rice" and Colin Powell, a black senator and "other Hispanics". So this proves that the Republican party as a whole is:

    pro women
    pro black
    pro youth
    pro gay
    pro hispanic
    pro asian
    pro handicapped
    pro lower class white people
    pro anyone who does not look, act, or think like them?

    Not.
    “The fear of death follows from the fear of life. A man [or woman] who lives fully is prepared to die at any time.”
    Variously credited to Mark Twain or Edward Abbey.













  • For the rest of our futures any liberal or Democrat can easily get away with calling conservatives mean just for the fact that conservatives want to cut spending. That is the easiest argument. Anyone who wants to take away someone elses entitlements, money or budgets is mean and nasty! WOW From here on out, its never going to end.

    The public has been brainwashed! Conservatives will always be mean in the eyes of the un-informed!

    Where is the credit for trying to be fiscal?

    Where is the credit for trying to balance a budget and make cuts?

    We are done![/quote]

    Let's see.....how do I put this......oh yeah....

    I am not a conservative nor a republican. Im a middle class white guy who is not part of Romneys 47%.
    I do not get, take, or expect any entitlements. But what I am not is an old white guy living in the 50s

    The republicans in office and most of the old white guys who put them there are ...

    Anti women
    anti immigrant (legal and otherwise)
    anti black
    anti youth
    anti gay
    anti hispanic
    anti asian
    anti handicapped
    anti lower class white people
    anti anyone who does not look, act, or think like them

    The U.S. is changing and the old white guys can't accept change. And clearly neither can you :nono:[/quote]

    WOW! You brought me into it personally! LOL Republicans have the only black senator. We had Mia Love and Allen West. We have Herman Cain. We have Condi Rice and Colin Powell. We have Ted Cruz and other Hispanics. Republicans are the civil rights advocates. We are the party of civil rights. You ever look at history? TRUTH AND FACTS. Martin Luther King was a Republican. His father was a Republican.

    Sounds like you really bit into that bite of propaganda that the liberal news feeds you!

    You dont know me personally, so dont judge me personally.

    All my policies come from facts, common sense and faith! Its that simple.

    I dont believe in emotions and feelings for policy....i believe in facts, common sense and reality![/quote]

    MLK has been dead for almost 45 years. Thats more than a generation ago. So you need let that one go.
    In addition it's a common misconception that MLK was a republican. The claims but the GOP that King was one of them is based purely on specuiation. King never expressed an affiliation with nor endorsed candidates for any political party. Even his son MLK III said it is disingenuous to imply that his father was a republican. That not noly did he never endorse any candidate there is no evidence that he ever voted for a republican.[/quote]

    :lol::lol: It should come as no surprise to you that ALL blacks were Republicans back then! We are the party of civil rights! Democrats were the party of the KKK. You dont know history? Also, MLK was a proud Republican! What facts are you reading! I want you to show us where his son said that! His neice Alveida to this day is a Republican and always quotes MLK. Good try bud!

    REPUBLICANS are the party of civil rights!
    Theres no time like the present

    A man that stands for nothing....will fall for anything!

    All people need to do more on every level!
  • brianluxbrianlux Posts: 42,051
    What year are we in? :lol:
    “The fear of death follows from the fear of life. A man [or woman] who lives fully is prepared to die at any time.”
    Variously credited to Mark Twain or Edward Abbey.













  • BentleyspopBentleyspop Posts: 10,769
    For the rest of our futures any liberal or Democrat can easily get away with calling conservatives mean just for the fact that conservatives want to cut spending. That is the easiest argument. Anyone who wants to take away someone elses entitlements, money or budgets is mean and nasty! WOW From here on out, its never going to end.

    The public has been brainwashed! Conservatives will always be mean in the eyes of the un-informed!

    Where is the credit for trying to be fiscal?

    Where is the credit for trying to balance a budget and make cuts?

    We are done!

    Let's see.....how do I put this......oh yeah....

    I am not a conservative nor a republican. Im a middle class white guy who is not part of Romneys 47%.
    I do not get, take, or expect any entitlements. But what I am not is an old white guy living in the 50s

    The republicans in office and most of the old white guys who put them there are ...

    Anti women
    anti immigrant (legal and otherwise)
    anti black
    anti youth
    anti gay
    anti hispanic
    anti asian
    anti handicapped
    anti lower class white people
    anti anyone who does not look, act, or think like them

    The U.S. is changing and the old white guys can't accept change. And clearly neither can you :nono:[/quote]

    WOW! You brought me into it personally! LOL Republicans have the only black senator. We had Mia Love and Allen West. We have Herman Cain. We have Condi Rice and Colin Powell. We have Ted Cruz and other Hispanics. Republicans are the civil rights advocates. We are the party of civil rights. You ever look at history? TRUTH AND FACTS. Martin Luther King was a Republican. His father was a Republican.

    Sounds like you really bit into that bite of propaganda that the liberal news feeds you!

    You dont know me personally, so dont judge me personally.

    All my policies come from facts, common sense and faith! Its that simple.

    I dont believe in emotions and feelings for policy....i believe in facts, common sense and reality![/quote]

    MLK has been dead for almost 45 years. Thats more than a generation ago. So you need let that one go.
    In addition it's a common misconception that MLK was a republican. The claims but the GOP that King was one of them is based purely on specuiation. King never expressed an affiliation with nor endorsed candidates for any political party. Even his son MLK III said it is disingenuous to imply that his father was a republican. That not noly did he never endorse any candidate there is no evidence that he ever voted for a republican.[/quote]

    :lol::lol: It should come as no surprise to you that ALL blacks were Republicans back then! We are the party of civil rights! Democrats were the party of the KKK. You dont know history? Also, MLK was a proud Republican! What facts are you reading! I want you to show us where his son said that! His neice Alveida to this day is a Republican and always quotes MLK. Good try bud!

    REPUBLICANS are the party of civil rights![/quote]

    You be sure to tell that to the black U.N. troops when they come to take your guns :fp:
  • brianlux wrote:
    What year are we in? :lol:

    Dems are the party of the KKK and their foundation is built on sickness! Their entire progression has been that of hiding the truth through smoke and mirrors and BUYING support with the size and scope of govt. Using people against people and categorizing groups of people and pitting them against each other! Using so called compassion and emotion to win over the un-informed! Low information voters are attracted to them and their platform beause its all deception with emotion. They played your feelings and you bought it! You overpaid again!
    Theres no time like the present

    A man that stands for nothing....will fall for anything!

    All people need to do more on every level!
  • BentleyspopBentleyspop Posts: 10,769
    brianlux wrote:
    What year are we in? :lol:

    Dems are the party of the KKK and their foundation is built on sickness! Their entire progression has been that of hiding the truth through smoke and mirrors and BUYING support with the size and scope of govt. Using people against people and categorizing groups of people and pitting them against each other! Using so called compassion and emotion to win over the un-informed! Low information voters are attracted to them and their platform beause its all deception with emotion. They played your feelings and you bought it! You overpaid again!


    Is that your way of quoting Paul Ryan when he said "urban voters"

    Smacks of racism

    Do your research....their have been 3 different eras of the KKK...the first was founded by democrats and did awful things in the late 1800s. The 2nd and 3rd were not. Facts and reality facts and reality
  • callencallen Posts: 6,388
    unsung wrote:
    I'm making a valid comparison on how much life is lost as compared to what the left perceives as the real issue. If you can't take honest debate don't create threads. Or at least state that you only want those that agree with you to reply.

    Here are more stats.

    In 2011 there were 2,513,171 documented deaths in the US.

    .34% were gun related, about 8500.
    .012% were related to so-called assault weapons, about 300.

    By comparison 1,210,000 abortions were performed in the US in 2008.

    Keep telling me that guns are the problem. You always say that a person is a law-abiding citizen until they use a gun in a crime. By that logic a dr is law abiding until he performs an abortion, now he is a murderer.


    Rand Paul 2016.

    Thank god we have abortion, planet happy for those 1.2 million not coming to term. :lol:
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  • brianluxbrianlux Posts: 42,051
    brianlux wrote:
    What year are we in? :lol:

    Dems are the party of the KKK and their foundation is built on sickness! Their entire progression has been that of hiding the truth through smoke and mirrors and BUYING support with the size and scope of govt. Using people against people and categorizing groups of people and pitting them against each other! Using so called compassion and emotion to win over the un-informed! Low information voters are attracted to them and their platform beause its all deception with emotion. They played your feelings and you bought it! You overpaid again!

    You're kidding, right? :lol:

    Otherwise, ya know, if you dug deeply enough, you might find a few KKK members today who belong to the Democratic party. Just like if you dug deeply enough you might find a few anti-gun Marxists who rock out to Ted Nugent.
    “The fear of death follows from the fear of life. A man [or woman] who lives fully is prepared to die at any time.”
    Variously credited to Mark Twain or Edward Abbey.













  • callencallen Posts: 6,388
    unsung wrote:
    OK... Abortion is not "murder" and until something can live outside the body and become a person, it's not a person.



    Is it life?
    It is but so is sperm. Been killing millions of em, guess I'm not going to heaven.
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  • BentleyspopBentleyspop Posts: 10,769
    callen wrote:
    unsung wrote:
    OK... Abortion is not "murder" and until something can live outside the body and become a person, it's not a person.



    Is it life?
    It is but so is sperm. Been killing millions of em, guess I'm not going to heaven.

    :lol:
  • callencallen Posts: 6,388
    HMMMMM The problems of our current situation are dire and the Democrats are in the drivers seat, and we never see any posts on this forum that criticize Dems and their current wrongdoings. The world could be on fire and liberals will attack, divide, deceive and devour! Isolate, freeze, attack and divide...then repeat!

    Cmon guys. You gotta be kiddin me!

    We havent even seen a budget in 4 years now.
    We havent seen transparency on meaningful things at all.

    For the rest of our futures any liberal or Democrat can easily get away with calling conservatives mean just for the fact that conservatives want to cut spending. That is the easiest argument. Anyone who wants to take away someone elses entitlements, money or budgets is mean and nasty! WOW From here on out, its never going to end.

    The public has been brainwashed! Conservatives will always be mean in the eyes of the un-informed!

    Where is the credit for trying to be fiscal?

    Where is the credit for trying to balance a budget and make cuts?

    We are done!

    Agree, we have a serious spending problem, just won't compromise my principles (equality for all) and won't support humans that use fiction as a cornerstone of their party (christianity).
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  • callen wrote:
    HMMMMM The problems of our current situation are dire and the Democrats are in the drivers seat, and we never see any posts on this forum that criticize Dems and their current wrongdoings. The world could be on fire and liberals will attack, divide, deceive and devour! Isolate, freeze, attack and divide...then repeat!

    Cmon guys. You gotta be kiddin me!

    We havent even seen a budget in 4 years now.
    We havent seen transparency on meaningful things at all.

    For the rest of our futures any liberal or Democrat can easily get away with calling conservatives mean just for the fact that conservatives want to cut spending. That is the easiest argument. Anyone who wants to take away someone elses entitlements, money or budgets is mean and nasty! WOW From here on out, its never going to end.

    The public has been brainwashed! Conservatives will always be mean in the eyes of the un-informed!

    Where is the credit for trying to be fiscal?

    Where is the credit for trying to balance a budget and make cuts?

    We are done!

    Agree, we have a serious spending problem, just won't compromise my principles (equality for all) and won't support humans that use fiction as a cornerstone of their party (christianity).

    so how do you think we got here as humans? Evolution? Creationism? Scientology? or what? Please tell me your belief and how mine is so far off!
    Theres no time like the present

    A man that stands for nothing....will fall for anything!

    All people need to do more on every level!
  • HMMMMM The problems of our current situation are dire and the Democrats are in the drivers seat, and we never see any posts on this forum that criticize Dems and their current wrongdoings. The world could be on fire and liberals will attack, divide, deceive and devour! Isolate, freeze, attack and divide...then repeat!

    Cmon guys. You gotta be kiddin me!

    We havent even seen a budget in 4 years now.
    We havent seen transparency on meaningful things at all.

    For the rest of our futures any liberal or Democrat can easily get away with calling conservatives mean just for the fact that conservatives want to cut spending. That is the easiest argument. Anyone who wants to take away someone elses entitlements, money or budgets is mean and nasty! WOW From here on out, its never going to end.

    The public has been brainwashed! Conservatives will always be mean in the eyes of the un-informed!

    Where is the credit for trying to be fiscal?

    Where is the credit for trying to balance a budget and make cuts?

    We are done!

    Let's see.....how do I put this......oh yeah....

    I am not a conservative nor a republican. Im a middle class white guy who is not part of Romneys 47%.
    I do not get, take, or expect any entitlements. But what I am not is an old white guy living in the 50s

    The republicans in office and most of the old white guys who put them there are ...

    Anti women
    anti immigrant (legal and otherwise)
    anti black
    anti youth
    anti gay
    anti hispanic
    anti asian
    anti handicapped
    anti lower class white people
    anti anyone who does not look, act, or think like them

    The U.S. is changing and the old white guys can't accept change. And clearly neither can you :nono:

    We need to hang out at my house in... well... I dunno... pick a city, I have four.
  • so how do you think we got here as humans? Evolution? Creationism? Scientology? or what? Please tell me your belief and how mine is so far off!

    Humans evolved from the same primordial ooze as everything else.

    Just because you don't have a doctorate in paleobiology and aren't able to understand the concept or see the proof... that doesn't give you the same position to say "the jury is still out on that."

    it's not.

    God isn't real. We are here for no reason. Then we die.

    Stop wasting your time here. And mine.
  • brianluxbrianlux Posts: 42,051
    Oh come ON! :fp: Everybody know babies are delivered by storks.
    “The fear of death follows from the fear of life. A man [or woman] who lives fully is prepared to die at any time.”
    Variously credited to Mark Twain or Edward Abbey.













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