Bukowski

peacefrompaul

Anyone a fan? I love this guys writing... damn.





Two of my favorite books of all time.

JonnyPistachio

I love Bukowski.

Here's the latest thing I came across:

you’ve got to fuck a great many women
beautiful women
and write a few decent love poems.
and don’t worry about age
and/or freshly-arrived talents.
just drink more beer
more and more beer
and attend the racetrack at least once a week
and win
if possible
learning to win is hard –
any slob can be a good loser.
and don’t forget your Brahms
and your Bach and your
beer.
don’t overexercise.
sleep until noon.
avoid paying credit cards
or paying for anything on
time.
remember that there isn’t a piece of ass
In this world over $50
(in 1977).
and if you have the ability to love
love yourself first
but always be aware of the possibility of
total defeat
whether the reason for that defeat
seems right or wrong —
an early taste of death is not necessarily
a bad thing.
stay out of churches and bars and museums,
and like the spider be
patient —
time is everybody’s cross,
plus
exile
defeat
treachery
all that dross.
stay with the beer.
beer is continuous blood.
a continuous lover.
get a large typewriter
and as the footsteps go up and down
outside your window
hit that thing
hit it hard
make it a heavyweight fight
make it the bull when he first charges in
and remember the old dogs
who fought so well:
Hemingway, Celine, Dostoevsky, Hamsun.
If you think they didn’t go crazy
in tiny rooms
just like you’re doing now
without women
without food
without hope
then you’re not ready.
drink more beer.
there’s time.
and if there’s not
that’s all right
too.”
— “How To Be A Great Writer”, Charles Bukowski

Leezestarr313

I've read a bit of his stuff, but it kind of grew a little boring after a while.
I remember though that I liked a short story named "six inches"...

peacefrompaul

Leezestarr313 wrote:

I've read a bit of his stuff, but it kind of grew a little boring after a while.
I remember though that I liked a short story named "six inches"...

Boring? :fp:

Get out!

:P

Leezestarr313

Yep, boring. Maybe it is because I cannot wrap my mind around the dirty thoughts of an old guy some of it was good, but it seemed like always the same theme...

peacefrompaul

Leezestarr313 wrote:

Yep, boring. Maybe it is because I cannot wrap my mind around the dirty thoughts of an old guy some of it was good, but it seemed like always the same theme...

Dark and depressing

The character is always an alcoholic or becomes one. The themes are the same, the stories are different

Mamasan23

I've always wanted to spend time with his stuff but it keeps getting put on the backburner. Definitely sounds like I'd like it tho!

peacefrompaul

Mamasan23 wrote:

I've always wanted to spend time with his stuff but it keeps getting put on the backburner. Definitely sounds like I'd like it tho!

Go for Ham on Rye... awesome story.

The character starts out as a kid...

Really rough story. Not happy at all

JonnyPistachio

Mamasan23 wrote:

I've always wanted to spend time with his stuff but it keeps getting put on the backburner. Definitely sounds like I'd like it tho!

I think you'd like his stuff. I've never read his actualy stories, but I keep a book of his poetry near the bed for passed out drunk reading... here's the only one I have: http://www.amazon.com/The-Pleasures-Dam ... s=bukowski

cubBEE_girl

Mamasan23 wrote:

I've always wanted to spend time with his stuff but it keeps getting put on the backburner. Definitely sounds like I'd like it tho!

Big fan of his. I have a ton of his books. I will let you borrow some.

Mamasan23

cubBEE_girl wrote:

Mamasan23 wrote:

I've always wanted to spend time with his stuff but it keeps getting put on the backburner. Definitely sounds like I'd like it tho!

Big fan of his. I have a ton of his books. I will let you borrow some.

Awesome thanks!!!

I have to say I'm not a poetry fan. But stories I like. Dark stories that involve drinking, even better!

peacefrompaul

Mamasan23 wrote:

cubBEE_girl wrote:

Mamasan23 wrote:

I've always wanted to spend time with his stuff but it keeps getting put on the backburner. Definitely sounds like I'd like it tho!

Big fan of his. I have a ton of his books. I will let you borrow some.

Awesome thanks!!!

I have to say I'm not a poetry fan. But stories I like. Dark stories that involve drinking, even better!

Ahhh yeah the characters are almost always drunk

JonnyPistachio

Mamasan23 wrote:

cubBEE_girl wrote:

Mamasan23 wrote:

I've always wanted to spend time with his stuff but it keeps getting put on the backburner. Definitely sounds like I'd like it tho!

Big fan of his. I have a ton of his books. I will let you borrow some.

Awesome thanks!!!

I have to say I'm not a poetry fan. But stories I like. Dark stories that involve drinking, even better!

I dont like poetry either. His "poetry" is more like drunken short stories with an unusual writing style. Just dont tell yourself it is poetry.

cubBEE_girl

JonnyPistachio wrote:

Mamasan23 wrote:

cubBEE_girl wrote:

Big fan of his. I have a ton of his books. I will let you borrow some.

Awesome thanks!!!

I have to say I'm not a poetry fan. But stories I like. Dark stories that involve drinking, even better!

I dont like poetry either. His "poetry" is more like drunken short stories with an unusual writing style. Just dont tell yourself it is poetry.

Exactly!!! You'll like this poetry!

Digital Twilight

I love Bukowski. Although most of his writings are about drunk, low lifes he does come up with some beautiful pieces at times.

One of my favourites narrated by Tom Waits

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SVzELjqbIHo

dimitrispearljam

read alot of his book when i wa younger

davidtrios

i need to start reading this stuff

JonnyPistachio wrote:

I love Bukowski.

Here's the latest thing I came across:

you’ve got to fuck a great many women
beautiful women
and write a few decent love poems.
and don’t worry about age
and/or freshly-arrived talents.
just drink more beer
more and more beer
and attend the racetrack at least once a week
and win
if possible
learning to win is hard –
any slob can be a good loser.
and don’t forget your Brahms
and your Bach and your
beer.
don’t overexercise.
sleep until noon.
avoid paying credit cards
or paying for anything on
time.
remember that there isn’t a piece of ass
In this world over $50
(in 1977).
and if you have the ability to love
love yourself first
but always be aware of the possibility of
total defeat
whether the reason for that defeat
seems right or wrong —
an early taste of death is not necessarily
a bad thing.
stay out of churches and bars and museums,
and like the spider be
patient —
time is everybody’s cross,
plus
exile
defeat
treachery
all that dross.
stay with the beer.
beer is continuous blood.
a continuous lover.
get a large typewriter
and as the footsteps go up and down
outside your window
hit that thing
hit it hard
make it a heavyweight fight
make it the bull when he first charges in
and remember the old dogs
who fought so well:
Hemingway, Celine, Dostoevsky, Hamsun.
If you think they didn’t go crazy
in tiny rooms
just like you’re doing now
without women
without food
without hope
then you’re not ready.
drink more beer.
there’s time.
and if there’s not
that’s all right
too.”
— “How To Be A Great Writer”, Charles Bukowski

catefrances

yes i am.

catefrances

peacefrompaul wrote:

Ahhh yeah the characters are almost always drunk

which is great cause im usually drunk when im reading bukowski... oops sorry, not drunk, drinking.

peacefrompaul

catefrances wrote:

peacefrompaul wrote:

Ahhh yeah the characters are almost always drunk

which is great cause im usually drunk when im reading bukowski.

I don't think I could read a book drunk

catefrances

peacefrompaul wrote:

catefrances wrote:

peacefrompaul wrote:

Ahhh yeah the characters are almost always drunk

which is great cause im usually drunk when im reading bukowski.

I don't think I could read a book drunk

i edited... seemingly while you were composing your post.

peacefrompaul

catefrances wrote:

i edited... seemingly while you were composing your post.

I see it now

I'd probably throw up

catefrances

peacefrompaul wrote:

catefrances wrote:

i edited... seemingly while you were composing your post.

I see it now

I'd probably throw up

really? reading while drunk induces vomitting??? light weight. :P

peacefrompaul

catefrances wrote:

peacefrompaul wrote:

catefrances wrote:

i edited... seemingly while you were composing your post.

I see it now

I'd probably throw up

really? reading while drunk induces vomitting??? light weight. :P

Maybe if I was drinking wine... I dunno I haven't wanted wine since my last 2 and a half bottle adventure.

catefrances

peacefrompaul wrote:

Maybe if I was drinking wine... I dunno I haven't wanted wine since my last 2 and a half bottle adventure.

i learnt many years ago that wine is a useful tool for writing.