Remember Wounded Knee
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On the morning of December 29, the troops went into the camp to disarm the Lakota. One version of events claims that during the process of disarming the Lakota, a deaf tribesman named Black Coyote was reluctant to give up his rifle, claiming he had paid a lot for it. A scuffle over Black Coyote's rifle escalated and a shot was fired which resulted in the 7th Cavalry's opening fire indiscriminately from all sides, killing men, women, and children, as well as some of their own fellow troopers. Those few Lakota warriors who still had weapons began shooting back at the attacking troopers, who quickly suppressed the Lakota fire. The surviving Lakota fled, but U.S. cavalrymen pursued and killed many who were unarmed.
By the time it was over, at least 150 men, women, and children of the Lakota Sioux had been killed and 51 wounded (4 men, 47 women and children, some of whom died later); some estimates placed the number of dead at 300. Twenty-five troopers also died, and 39 were wounded (6 of the wounded would later die). It is believed that many were the victims of friendly fire, as the shooting took place at close range in chaotic conditions. At least twenty troopers were awarded the coveted Medal of Honor.
Big government in action.
By the time it was over, at least 150 men, women, and children of the Lakota Sioux had been killed and 51 wounded (4 men, 47 women and children, some of whom died later); some estimates placed the number of dead at 300. Twenty-five troopers also died, and 39 were wounded (6 of the wounded would later die). It is believed that many were the victims of friendly fire, as the shooting took place at close range in chaotic conditions. At least twenty troopers were awarded the coveted Medal of Honor.
Big government in action.
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City Lights books in San Francisco has an excellent American Indian/ Native American section only they don't call it that. They all it "Continental Conquest". Some are also partial to "First Nations". Yes.
If your point was to actually pay tribute to a blemish on your country's history... then yes, this is a tragedy of the highest order. I couldn't imagine the horror. Just gross.
If your point was to draw a parallel between an 1890 incident and the possibilities that might exist for USA citizens today if forced to concede their assault rifles and hanguns to a latent hostile USA 'big government'... come on, man.
You're really really reaching.
Honestly, at least from my perspective... you'd do better saying, "Aw come on! I love my gun. Just let me have it" than try to pass off weak arguments and analogies. At least in that case, I could understand that you have a way of life that is now threatened through the actions of others. I'm not saying I would feel any differently regarding gun control, but I would have more respect for your position.
I do try and remember the reason why we initially paid our first dues for membership to this club. The music... we have that in common. The news of the new ticketing system has me a little excited as I'm sure it does for you.
I don't know you, but I can guarantee you that regardless of our differences... if we were near each other at a show and PJ blasted out a sweet tune that had you and I nodding at each other with that 'knowing look'... I'd think you were a really cool person.
I try to keep that in mind when we disagree so adamantly. You're probably okay! It's our opinions that are in conflict. Hope you can get this!
Remember the Miniconjou Lakota.
Remember the Hunkpapa Lakota.
It's not a direct gun thread. It is about the government killing innocents, it has happened, it can happen again. All they need is a reason and the media will paint them as the saviors.
And I have told many, most of them I do disagree with, that the first round is on me.
I'm going to have to cite my Constitutional Rights and what the Founder's Fathers intended on the 2nd Amendment to be. Disagree? Then take it up with them, don't blame me. Their words, not mine.
The US was not founded as a democracy. The majority do not get their way just because they have the numbers. That is why we have a Constitution.
honestly, everybody arm up. fuck i will give you all my weapons. if this government really wanted to come and take your guns, your guns are no match for the tanks, hummers, drones, and juggernauts that they are gonna bring with them. seriously, get all of the guns you want, and it is just a matter of time before you die with those guns in your hands when the government drops some serious weapons on your head.
the threat from a tyranical government is a farce. the faster all of your gun nuts realize it the better everyone in the world will be.
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It seems to me that this thread shows that the average armed American doesn't stand a chance against the combined force of the US Military, even in 1890. What makes you think that you'd fare any better than Black Coyote when your government is armed with the most advanced weaponry on the planet? I don't care how many semiautomatic assault rifles you are proud to own; you wouldn't stand a chance.
I keep hearing from the pro gun crowd that taking semiautomatic rifles is the first step to taking your freedom. Truth be told; they don't need to take your guns to move onto the second step.
A friend of mine and I were talking about the senator who said it's our constitutional right to be able to fire 5 or 6 rounds per second (or something like that). I said, "Where does it say that in the constitution?" She said, "The point of that part of the constitution was made so that citizens would have the same arms as the government."
I said, "A-BOMBS FOR EVERYONE!"