Is vinyl becoming too mainstream yet?

evsgjamm

brianlux wrote:

Vinyl isn't about the format- it's about the sound. Read Neil's Young's book for excellent info on the subject. MP's only have a fraction of the sound data of master tapes or good vinyl records. CD's are not much better. Give yourself a chance- do a listening comparison somewhere where you can hear back to back MP3's, CD's and well cared for vinyl on a good system. Most people who do this agree- vinyl is closer to real sound and much more pleasant to listen to. Fortunately, the technology is out there to put out digital at 192kHz (CDs are sampled at 44.1 kHz) and eventually even higher. That will be cool, but I'll always keep my records spinning for the best sound.

If I had the choice between only owning 10 good vinyl records or 200 CDs, or 500 records on MP3s I'd go for the 10 records without thinking twice about it.

I like your way of thinking. Spot on !!

evsgjamm

morello wrote:

^^^ Hey this reminds me of something I've been wondering after reading Uncle Neil's book & hanging out for his Pono system....

So, master files have more sound data than vinyl, which has more than CDs, which have more than mp3s. Will Pono have the same as vinyl or masters do you think? Does anyone have a better understanding of this than me? Will Pono be better than vinyl?

THIS is some AMAZING news! I just did some research on it and holy smokes... it's who?? Uncle Neil? I was in the dark on his "inventing, investing, marketing, making digital better" movement. What gives? Have I failed as a fan? yes... a little. but back to this "Pono" system. It's got me all revved up. I'll be talking about this at the next open mic night for sure!! Is it too good to be true? I'd have to listen to it in one of them big ole boats in which he had it installed to see. How original would it be to have a classic car like that, with the Pono system, spinning on a show-room type turntable in your living room. Now THAT'S my idea of a good time

hedonist

evsgjamm wrote:

hedonist wrote:

Nothing like that old sound when the needle hits!

mmmmm yummy. That was a great sentence. Think you'll ever get a Hi-Fi system for your records?

The crackle!

I'd love to get something so we can actually enjoy what we have. Growing up, we had one of those huge cabinet-type deals, with large speakers sandwiching the turntable/radio area. Many evenings in the mid-70s would find me "grooving" to Cher and the Partridge Family

As mentioned earlier, crazy that the prices for turntables are so high, but nice that there's a market for them. Makes me wish we kept the above device, or at least the suitcase-style player my sister had.

Regarding mainstream, I don't even know what that is anymore! I just like what I like; if others do too, so be it. If others do it because it's trendy, then they're missing out on the whole point - again, so be it.

evsgjamm

even flow - question mark wrote:

... and turntables go for up to 800 bucks a pop. ...

Actually, turntables go for much much MUCH more than that.

http://www.techradar.com/news/audio/10- ... cleContent

wowzah; look at them puppies!!

evsgjamm

brianlux wrote:

...The room mate only pulled these tapes out for ritual-like listening- total focus on the music. That's how he insisted we listen and it was a great experience. ....

gotta love the good ole days of ritual-like experiences with good tunes

PJ_Soul

I wish!! If vinyl were mainstream, it would be cheaper and widely available!!

I'm not a fucking hipster (can't stand em). I just love vinyl. I would love it if everyone appreciated it as much as I do so that more record stores would open, vinyl would no longer be limited edition, and new vinyl and good turntables became easy to find and cheaper. It would be awesome if every single album put out by every band or artist was on vinyl because it would be u heard of for them not to be.

Unfortunately, this is not at all the case. I believe vinyl only makes up something like 7% of all music sales, and that's a huge jump from 5 years ago. And just recently London Drugs started selling a limited amount of vinyl in their music section... that is an interesting sign! Although it could just be that the guy in charge of music sales for London Drugs is an audiophile.


How many hipsters does it take to screw in a lightbulb?







It's a pretty obscure number. You've probably never heard of it.

PJ_Soul

evsgjamm wrote:

Newch91 wrote:

Is there something wrong with vinyl becoming mainstream again?

In my opinion (and this thread was started solely for opinions), it's getting too commercial and I don't like it. I don't particularly like how it seems every band is rushing to put out a limited edition vinyl, a numbered vinyl, a colored vinyl... it's all been done before and these bands jumping on the wagon are showing us their unoriginality. I can see the other side of the coin, (if it works, use it; strike while the iron is hot etc. etc.) but as my opinion is solely my own, I'll post it in confidence. I don't like how mainstream vinyl has become. I look forward to your negative comments

Your opinion just doesn't make any sense to me.

even flow - question mark

evsgjamm wrote:

even flow - question mark wrote:

... and turntables go for up to 800 bucks a pop. ...

Actually, turntables go for much much MUCH more than that.

http://www.techradar.com/news/audio/10- ... cleContent

wowzah; look at them puppies!!

:shock:

evsgjamm

PJ_Soul wrote:

I wish!! If vinyl were mainstream, it would be cheaper and widely available!!

I'm not a fucking hipster (can't stand em). I just love vinyl. I would love it if everyone appreciated it as much as I do so that more record stores would open, vinyl would no longer be limited edition, and new vinyl and good turntables became easy to find and cheaper. It would be awesome if every single album put out by every band or artist was on vinyl because it would be u heard of for them not to be.

Unfortunately, this is not at all the case. I believe vinyl only makes up something like 7% of all music sales, and that's a huge jump from 5 years ago. And just recently London Drugs started selling a limited amount of vinyl in their music section... that is an interesting sign! Although it could just be that the guy in charge of music sales for London Drugs is an audiophile.


How many hipsters does it take to screw in a lightbulb?







It's a pretty obscure number. You've probably never heard of it.

You see, it's comments like these that pull me towards your point of view. It totally WOULD be awesome if vinyl was everywhere and never went through such a decline in sales. That way, it'd be all you said ... cheaper, more accessible and people would actually be listening to high quality sound on cheap and readily accessible Hi-Fi systems. However, that's not the reality in which we live, as you stated.

As for London Drugs offering vinyl; check out these prices:

AC/DC - Highway To Hell: $18
Pearl Jam - Backspacer: $25
Pink Floyd - The Wall: $50
Bob Dylan - The Freewheelin: $55
Roy Orbison - All Time Greatest Hits: $60
Smashing Pumpkins - Melon Collie and the Infinite Sadness: $90
Genesis - 1976-1982 Box set: $200
King George VI - The Kings Speech to His People: $350

As for my opinion not making sense... I get that. I'm not perfect by any stretch of the imagination.

PJ_Soul

evsgjamm wrote:

PJ_Soul wrote:

I wish!! If vinyl were mainstream, it would be cheaper and widely available!!

I'm not a fucking hipster (can't stand em). I just love vinyl. I would love it if everyone appreciated it as much as I do so that more record stores would open, vinyl would no longer be limited edition, and new vinyl and good turntables became easy to find and cheaper. It would be awesome if every single album put out by every band or artist was on vinyl because it would be u heard of for them not to be.

Unfortunately, this is not at all the case. I believe vinyl only makes up something like 7% of all music sales, and that's a huge jump from 5 years ago. And just recently London Drugs started selling a limited amount of vinyl in their music section... that is an interesting sign! Although it could just be that the guy in charge of music sales for London Drugs is an audiophile.


How many hipsters does it take to screw in a lightbulb?







It's a pretty obscure number. You've probably never heard of it.

You see, it's comments like these that pull me towards your point of view. It totally WOULD be awesome if vinyl was everywhere and never went through such a decline in sales. That way, it'd be all you said ... cheaper, more accessible and people would actually be listening to high quality sound on cheap and readily accessible Hi-Fi systems. However, that's not the reality in which we live, as you stated.

As for London Drugs offering vinyl; check out these prices:

AC/DC - Highway To Hell: $18
Pearl Jam - Backspacer: $25
Pink Floyd - The Wall: $50
Bob Dylan - The Freewheelin: $55
Roy Orbison - All Time Greatest Hits: $60
Smashing Pumpkins - Melon Collie and the Infinite Sadness: $90
Genesis - 1976-1982 Box set: $200
King George VI - The Kings Speech to His People: $350

As for my opinion not making sense... I get that. I'm not perfect by any stretch of the imagination.

Yeah, the prices suck shit... but hey, it's gotta start somewhere.
What's the king's speech thing?? Like, the actual historical king's speech on vinyl???

even flow - question mark

evsgjamm wrote:

PJ_Soul wrote:

I wish!! If vinyl were mainstream, it would be cheaper and widely available!!

I'm not a fucking hipster (can't stand em). I just love vinyl. I would love it if everyone appreciated it as much as I do so that more record stores would open, vinyl would no longer be limited edition, and new vinyl and good turntables became easy to find and cheaper. It would be awesome if every single album put out by every band or artist was on vinyl because it would be u heard of for them not to be.

Unfortunately, this is not at all the case. I believe vinyl only makes up something like 7% of all music sales, and that's a huge jump from 5 years ago. And just recently London Drugs started selling a limited amount of vinyl in their music section... that is an interesting sign! Although it could just be that the guy in charge of music sales for London Drugs is an audiophile.


How many hipsters does it take to screw in a lightbulb?







It's a pretty obscure number. You've probably never heard of it.

You see, it's comments like these that pull me towards your point of view. It totally WOULD be awesome if vinyl was everywhere and never went through such a decline in sales. That way, it'd be all you said ... cheaper, more accessible and people would actually be listening to high quality sound on cheap and readily accessible Hi-Fi systems. However, that's not the reality in which we live, as you stated.

As for London Drugs offering vinyl; check out these prices:

AC/DC - Highway To Hell: $18
Pearl Jam - Backspacer: $25
Pink Floyd - The Wall: $50
Bob Dylan - The Freewheelin: $55
Roy Orbison - All Time Greatest Hits: $60
Smashing Pumpkins - Melon Collie and the Infinite Sadness: $90
Genesis - 1976-1982 Box set: $200
King George VI - The Kings Speech to His People: $350

As for my opinion not making sense... I get that. I'm not perfect by any stretch of the imagination.

Are they pressed on gold? Jesus.

If I don't walk out of the record store with at least 12 to 15 albums for 100 bucks (including a new one or two) something has gone very, very, wrong.

evsgjamm

PJ_Soul wrote:

What's the king's speech thing?? Like, the actual historical king's speech on vinyl???

Limited edition copy of King George VI’s September 3rd, 1939 speech, packaged in a reproduction goat skin leather, silk and velvet-lined case with detailed foil-blocked royal crest and a reproduction of the original 78RPM record. Also includes a re-mastered CD and a 72 page hard cover book containing the story of the speech and the Royal Family along with rarely seen EMI archive photo’s/memorabilia and a numbered certificate of authenticity, all approved by Buckingham Palace. This package is a duplicate of the two copies originally made in 1939, one is housed in Buckingham Palace the other is in the EMI archives.

haha. that's so ridiculous

even flow - question mark

evsgjamm wrote:

PJ_Soul wrote:

What's the king's speech thing?? Like, the actual historical king's speech on vinyl???

Limited edition copy of King George VI’s September 3rd, 1939 speech, packaged in a reproduction goat skin leather, silk and velvet-lined case with detailed foil-blocked royal crest and a reproduction of the original 78RPM record. Also includes a re-mastered CD and a 72 page hard cover book containing the story of the speech and the Royal Family along with rarely seen EMI archive photo’s/memorabilia and a numbered certificate of authenticity, all approved by Buckingham Palace. This package is a duplicate of the two copies originally made in 1939, one is housed in Buckingham Palace the other is in the EMI archives.

haha. that's so ridiculous

78rpms...Classic. I have a ton of 16 and 78 rpm records. I know that the one above is probably on 33...hmmmm I wonder if they make a player anymore that plays the 16 and 78's.

PJ_Soul

evsgjamm wrote:

PJ_Soul wrote:

What's the king's speech thing?? Like, the actual historical king's speech on vinyl???

Limited edition copy of King George VI’s September 3rd, 1939 speech, packaged in a reproduction goat skin leather, silk and velvet-lined case with detailed foil-blocked royal crest and a reproduction of the original 78RPM record. Also includes a re-mastered CD and a 72 page hard cover book containing the story of the speech and the Royal Family along with rarely seen EMI archive photo’s/memorabilia and a numbered certificate of authenticity, all approved by Buckingham Palace. This package is a duplicate of the two copies originally made in 1939, one is housed in Buckingham Palace the other is in the EMI archives.

haha. that's so ridiculous

:fp: Thank you, Colin Firth. Without you this would not have been possible.