Interesting read... use of prescribed mind-altering drugs
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I think I've posted this before, but after my mother in law died close to two years ago, Danny's doctor prescribed him Effexor (for his COMPLETELY NATURAL REACTION TO HIS PARENT'S DEATH). After I did some research, I forbade - yes, forbade - him to take that shit.
Seems like many possible side-effects of many medications are worse than the issue one is taking it for.
I have no fucking clue how to approach it all.
I think there was a decade or so when so where nobody asked questions about this shit. They just trusted their doctors. Obviously some of the doictors are in bed with the pharmaceutical industry, and just greedy --getting rich off doping up our kids.
Hopefully, if this can get out to the public (and I think it is to some degree) that some doctors prescribe medications that arent absolutely necessary...and we should question everything and/or do some research before zombifying our kids.
Doctors? How are they able to give out this shit like candy?
PLEASE read 'Toxic Psychiatry' by Peter Breggin, a legit author- consultant with National Institute of Mental Health, M.D., former teaching fellow at Harvard. Many of these widely prescribed drugs are actually a major tranquilizer that are not designed to, and DO NOT treat any one symptom in particular, such as that which the drug is prescribed for, but rather act generally on the brain to change chemical processing.
While it can be argued that there is a place for these drugs in severe cases where they are needed, there is no denying that this is not the way we are currently employing the use of these drugs, and we have a responsibility to educate (warn) people about the severe possible consequences of their use.
What we need is empathy, love, understanding, and support of those who are struggling with some very real and very distressing issues.
What did you find out about effexor? My friend was given this for depression. Between her relationship, kids and work she was crying all the time.
Take a look around at the website
The titles and articles and videos are soooo ridiculous :roll:
looks like something The Onion might have produced as an April Fools day issue
candleofthought, thank you for your post. I'm going to come back and read it in more detail.
(and to Bentley - do you not think the issue itself deserves some merit, some thought, for a start? I do.)
Dude. That was from World News Daily.
That is not accurate. They don't post accurate stuff. They're about as accurate as The Onion.
For the most part, I'm not really in the loop of good and bad websites.
I'll go back to my response to Bentley - overprescribing is a problem worth (more than) a look-see.
You are absolutely correct....overprescribing is an issue
Also an issue is people posting links to disreputable websites that spew lies, wrong spin, and misqoutes
if that article had been from the Journal of Medicine, or the lancet by a reputable medicalauthority then fine I would pay more attention
But the whole website was a joke
While I'm thankful for the meds that ease my back pain, I'm floored by how casually prescriptions - potentially dangerous ones, at that - are handed out...to adults, to teens, to children.
Makes me wonder why some older natural, "organic", methods aren't used as well - ie, med MJ, acupuncture, etc.
Because a website like WND exists for one reason, which is to undermine any progressive policy. They do not do any actual reporting or journalism, they do intentional hatchet pieces.
This article, for instance, is peppered with inaccurate information and unrelated stories in an effort to further the notion that "we don't need gun control, the real fault lies with people on anti-depressants."
WND does not publish articles with "merit" and suggesting that they do is a major disservice to yourself and the public.
Which is so not even remotely close to what anyone has said that it just proves that you know you're wrong and just refuse to admit it.
The pills aren't just handed out, it's also the public that wants a quick fix and thinks that the pills will do it. Instead they cause other problems.
Alternative medicine is being used and is becoming more common place; I've been getting reiki done for 9 months and have taken classes so I can heal others and myself (it works, but the patient needs to be fully involved and active in their healing, it's no quick fix). I go to my first acupuncture treatment tomorrow.
ETA: And what about meditation? If more schools taught kids to practice mindfulness, it would alleviate half the problems we have out there.
Best of luck for tomorrow! I'm a needle-phobe, and despite my one and only experience with acupuncture feeling somewhat surreal, it was also incredibly calming. I hope it goes well for you.
Thanks! I hope it helps with my chronic stiffness and pain.
I think in a lot of ways we have become a society that just wants to shut out and numb very natural and healthy emotional reactions. If you put your hand on a hot stove, it's going to hurt because it's painful; it's important to feel that pain because it gives us information - such as "take your hand off the hot stove!" If you lose someone you love, it's going to hurt because it's painful. Those feelings aren't unhealthy or unnatural and they shouldn't be numbed; they're information and they tell us things - like maybe we need time to grieve. Things that are a part of a normal mood state (which includes sadness, anger, joy) have been pathologized and are confused with a true mood disorder. The second people feel somewhat uncomfortable, they want to turn the feelings off rather than looking to see what's underneath them. A lot of anxiety is functional; it can motivate us to make changes and it gives us information about things that are out of balance in our lives. Functional anxiety gets confused with debilitating anxiety, and the moment people start to feel it, they want to shut it off. People seek medication for sleep problems, rather than attending to behavioral and lifestyle changes that may be the real cause for the problems (ie. irregular sleep schedules, too much alcohol or caffeine use, etc.) Medication seems like a quick-fix; therapy and behavioral changes can take a lot of effort and energy. Prescribers do need to be more accountable. Most mental health centers require clients to first meet with a therapist (and continue to do so on an ongoing basis), before they can meet with the psychiatrist. People will circumvent that system and go to their PCP. A psychiatrist may refuse to prescribe xanax, for example, only for the person to go to their PCP and have them write a script. I wish the pharmaceutical companies would stop their advertising. Many people go to their doctor telling them which medication they should be on, having little information about the medication or the illness for which it is prescribed. Many clinicians are finding great results from incorporating things like meditation, mindfulness, aromatherapy, etc. Transcendental meditation in particular has been very helpful for kids with ADHD.
That's not to say that there aren't times when medication is necessary and can be beneficial. The misinformation that is spread as a result of the overuse and misuse of these medications can deter people who could truly benefit from them, from using them. Given the number of people currently on psychotropics, we would have a lot more violent crime if the medications caused violence. The article absolutely has a lot of misinformation. For example, SSRIs due not cause mania, however when used without a mood stabilizer they can trigger a manic episode in people who are bipolar.
I've posted some peer-reviewed articles on other threads and will post some of them here too. The overwhelming majority of people who commit violent crimes are not mentally ill. While there may be a comorbid illness, such as depression, most of these shooters commit this violence because they feel wronged and justified to punish others. The cause of this kind of violence has more to do with an attitude and a way of relating to the world than a mental illness (as in the case of the Columbine and VA Tech shooters - discussed in-depth in the last article). When we see violence occurring by those who do have a mental illness that results in a break with reality (i.e. psychosis - as in the case of Andrea Yates), it often occurs when people are no longer engaged in treatment or have been non-compliant with treatment recommendations. We need better services for people who are in need of treatment, and we need better medications to treat biologically-based illnesses, which will require a lot more research. And we need funding to support those goals.
http://ajp.psychiatryonline.org/article ... leid=96905
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1525086/
http://www.jaapl.org/content/38/1/87.full
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Weirdos?
Maybe you should have called them billionaire weirdos
I'd take billionaire weirdo over closed-minded libertarian any day
-published by the Canadian Broadcasting Company, to add to the list of academic papers and books already posted. The evidence continues to mount, on both legit websites and "not".
Mindfulness meditation, as jeanwah and others have suggested, is a valuable and effective tool for dealing with stress, anxiety, and preventing relapse of depressive episodes. And having the opportunity to relate to another person, having a truly positive and empathetic relationship during hard times can provide something for a person that nothing else will replace. Something that might be achieved if we stopped blaming ourselves and putting blame on others dealing with difficult emotions. And yes, sometimes we just need to go through some terrible shit. One school of thought teaches that "we must first arrive at a place before we can leave it."
"I need your strength for me to be strong...I need your love to feel loved"
Too many ridiculous shots for everything now too.
"Okay, you'll need this, this, and this before going overseas"
No, I really don't...
"I need your strength for me to be strong...I need your love to feel loved"
Thanks for bailing
Next time I totally have your back
"I need your strength for me to be strong...I need your love to feel loved"
Jeanwah; you talk about acupuncture. brave girl. i know it's tried and true..but it involves needles. Yikes!
Point is; homeopathic medicine has been used for thousands of years and is still preferred in many countries whereas the pill & knife for every ailment seems preferred in the US. Gotta go so I don't have time to look it up but I once read something about homeopathic universities accounted for something like 85% in Europe as opposed to our traditional medical schools which is about the exact opposite.