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  • Jearlpam0925
    Jearlpam0925 Deep South Philly Posts: 17,517
    edited April 2023
    Good move. Slay will have to suck it up. 
    Is it though?
    ...yes? What am I missing here? Is there some legit beef between him and Darius Slay I'm not totally aware of? He's had a pretty good track record, except as a head coach....


    I don't know though. He was their offensive play caller last year. But he's a defensive guy. Maybe as a position coach, but I don't think that's what he's being brought in for. And if you're Desai do you respect this move without looking over your shoulder?

    I feel like a lot of those NE guys are products of Belichick and Brady's success.
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  • The Juggler
    The Juggler Posts: 49,590
    edited April 2023
    Good move. Slay will have to suck it up. 
    Is it though?
    ...yes? What am I missing here? Is there some legit beef between him and Darius Slay I'm not totally aware of? He's had a pretty good track record, except as a head coach....


    I don't know though. He was their offensive play caller last year. But he's a defensive guy. Maybe as a position coach, but I don't think that's what he's being brought in for. And if you're Desai do you respect this move without looking over your shoulder?

    I feel like a lot of those NE guys are products of Belichick and Brady's success.
    He was the DC there for like 6 years though.

    Senior Defensive Assistant sounds like the kind of job where he's there to just give advice to Desai. I doubt they'd bring him in if there's any ill will between him and Slay. I think people were overreacting yesterday just because they associate him with the Pats or something. And I could be wrong, but it just kinda seems like a more formal position than what Vic Fangio had...
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  • Jearlpam0925
    Jearlpam0925 Deep South Philly Posts: 17,517
    edited April 2023
    I hear you, it's probably not worth all this, but that's also kinda my point. Is this move really worth the upside as opposed to the downside? You don't have to watch this whole goddamn thing, but where I have this clip start off is the beginning of what I'm trying to articulate through to what Berman says is on point. Incredibly short-sighted:

    https://www.youtube.com/live/VCagwlFVpsU?feature=share&t=272
  • The Juggler
    The Juggler Posts: 49,590
    I hear you, it's probably not worth all this, but that's also kinda my point. Is this move really worth the upside as opposed to the downside? You don't have to watch this whole goddamn thing, but where I have this clip start off is the beginning of what I'm trying to articulate through to what Berman says is on point. Incredibly short-sighted:

    https://www.youtube.com/live/VCagwlFVpsU?feature=share&t=272
    Yeah fair point. And I saw the dvoa stuff in their article. Berman makes good points here, always does.
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  • Johnny Abruzzo
    Johnny Abruzzo Philly Posts: 12,352
    I mean there's the possibility that he adds some useful knowledge, I guess. But it really seems like undermining to Desai and that's not even considering the Slay thing. And the mediocre NFL coach recycling facility thing too.
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  • The Juggler
    The Juggler Posts: 49,590
    I mean there's the possibility that he adds some useful knowledge, I guess. But it really seems like undermining to Desai and that's not even considering the Slay thing. And the mediocre NFL coach recycling facility thing too.
    I bet most people will have forgotten he's even here by October. 
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  • The Juggler
    The Juggler Posts: 49,590
    edited April 2023
    Draft day is upon us, eh?

    If they keep both picks, I would be thrilled with Nolan Smith and Gibbs. But knowing Howie, we're either trading up or down.
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  • Jearlpam0925
    Jearlpam0925 Deep South Philly Posts: 17,517
    Yeah he seriously could do absolutely anything - any version of Nolan Smith/Jalen Carter/Paris Johnson/Christian Gonzalez at 10 would be amazing. Outside of those guys I'm all for trading down in both spots. Personally, I want (in order of preference):  1) Gonzalez 2) Carter 3) Johnson 4) Smith

    Sounds like the top-end QBs might be dropping (Stroud/Young), and fringe 1st/2nd round QBs (no 5th year option for 2nd rounders), may be incredibly beneficial here. If they could move down from 10 to like 13 or 15 would bring back big returns. And if a team wants to pounce for a later 1st round QB guy that they want to guarantee that 5th year on that could be huge as well.
  • Johnny Abruzzo
    Johnny Abruzzo Philly Posts: 12,352
    I'm picking the highly glamorous Peter Skoronski, Northwestern offensive lineman.
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  • Jearlpam0925
    Jearlpam0925 Deep South Philly Posts: 17,517
    edited April 2023
    So we settled some tampering with Gannon and essentially moved up to 66 for 94. Don't even care we gave up the 5th round pick. IHWT. 
  • Johnny Abruzzo
    Johnny Abruzzo Philly Posts: 12,352
    So we settled some tampering with Gannon and essentially moved up to 66 for 94. Don't even care we gave up the 5th round pick. IHWT. 
    Yeah that’s a big old move up. The Cardinals were tampering for Jonathan Gannon🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
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  • Jearlpam0925
    Jearlpam0925 Deep South Philly Posts: 17,517
    And holy crap Witherspoon goes before Gonzalez? C'mooon Christian at 10.
  • Jearlpam0925
    Jearlpam0925 Deep South Philly Posts: 17,517
    Sweet 3 spots to go with Smith/Carter/Gonzalez still out there.
  • Jearlpam0925
    Jearlpam0925 Deep South Philly Posts: 17,517
    What the hell do you give up to move one spot? Too much I'd say. But Carter's going to be a beast.
  • cutz
    cutz Posts: 12,227
    Jalen Carter?
  • Jearlpam0925
    Jearlpam0925 Deep South Philly Posts: 17,517
    cutz said:
    Jalen Carter?
    Has to be.
  • eeriepadave
    eeriepadave West Chester, PA Posts: 43,165
    edited April 2023
    Jalen carter it is
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  • Johnny Abruzzo
    Johnny Abruzzo Philly Posts: 12,352
    Gave up a 24 4th rounder
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  • Jearlpam0925
    Jearlpam0925 Deep South Philly Posts: 17,517
    Gave up a 24 4th rounder
    Yeah not terrible, not concerned with that. Good stuff.