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pjhawks

Jearlpam0925 said:

The Juggler said:

Jearlpam0925 said:

The Juggler said:

Devonta Smith can run a fucking route. I can’t wait to see what he does this year 

Buddy of mine was there right next to the field and couldn't believe how small he was, like child small. I said, yeah, I hope I'm wrong but I don't think he's gonna be that good, and that he's definitely not putting on like 25 pounts of muscle or whatever it is people think he's going to do.

It is crazy how skinny he is. We talked about this before but I don't think the Marvin Harrison comparison is that far fetched considering what he did at Alabama. If he was another Pac10 receiver, I would be more concerned. lol

Haha, we did. And I certainly want to be wrong on this, but I think comparing this guy to one guy who ended up being an absolutely incredible hall of fame murderer is extreme cherry picking with Midnight Green colored glasses. Personally, unless this guy gets massive separation, I don't see him better than a slot guy - i.e. Brandin Cooks-like at very best, and I'd be more than happy if that was the case but in no way would satisfy me that they A) traded up for him B ) worth a mid-1st round pick. I don't like drafting for "need" and/or fulfilling the fans' wants in a massive PR campaign (conspiracy in my head).

Also, controversial hot take on my part: are SEC WRs - especially from Alabama - anything special? That's like saying you want a 'Bama QB to some extent, definitely more misses than hits. I know they're riding a wave right now in the past 3, 4 season, but the jury seems to be out on most of them at this point. Granted, I'll give you Julio and Amari Cooper. But Smith is definitely not built like those guys. Jeudy looks like he'll be decent. I guess best comparison is Ridley, and even he is bigger than Smith, but I would take those numbers for sure. OK, maybe they've been ok lately haha...

Other hot take - we are going to be kicking ourselves in the balls for thinking Nick Sirianni is a decent coach. I think this has Kotite written all over it. 

And I finally want Howie to feel some heat.

Sincerely, 
Bizarro WIP Caller

The concern with Sirianni is that his coordinators are the youngest in the league. Other than Stoutland the coaching staff is really young.   How will that work when they lose a few games, especially in this town?  One of the keys to having success as an NFL coach is not losing the locker room when things go bad. Even good teams sometimes lose 5 or 6 games. Handling the week to week up an downs is huge for an NFL head coach. That is Reid's biggest strength and I thought Pederson did a good job at that as well. That was one of Chip Kelly's biggest downfalls. He was such a loser that once things turned sour the veterans tuned him out quick.  

I have no feeling for this team.  I think they literally could go in any direction.   With a healthy offensive line and if Hurts is better than I expect they could end up being pretty good.  But what are the chances an aging offensive line is going to stay healthy?  Will the young wide receivers take a big step this year?  I still don't think the defense has enough playmakers. Lack of turnovers by the defense has killed this team the last few years. Can that improve with a new staff?  Plus the beginning of the schedule if brutally tough, and the end looks easy.  Can they stay close enough so the last division games at the end still have meaning?  So many questions to be answered with this team.

Jearlpam0925

Chip's biggest downfall was hubris.

Andy's biggest strength is his "Belichickness" of being even-keeled through good times and bad and would never place blame on any player or coach beyond himself....while being able to identify quality quarterbacks and maintaining strong offensive lines.

Doug's greatest strength was 1) delegating and 2) letting his players have autonomy on the field.

Pretty sure Doug held onto a handful of Chip's staff. If anything it's Howie. Duce for christ sake's took the same position with the Detroit fucking Lions.

I don't think players default to blaming coaching staff if things go sour. They'll put that on the head coach if it comes down to it. I don't think in any locker room the players look past any head coach for an older staff member as the "leader:, unless maybe you're talking about defensive players and their leader is pretty much whom ever is the highest ranking defensive minded coach, whether that's the D-coordinator or the head coach. If there's a team where the players are looking toward the special coordinator, or some shit, because they have a more "veteran"/older age presence then that's weird. Everyone knows who the head coach is.

The concern with Sirianni to me is this guy will be woefully outmatched while not knowing how to have any skill of public speaking, but will keep his job because Howie can tell him to shut the fuck up and go back in the corner.

The young staff is representative of Howie more than anything, he had total control of what the staff would look like this time around. All of this, to me, is another use of Howie trying to increase his leash as much as possible while trying to look like the smartest guy in the room.

Jearlpam0925

I really don't know how I missed this this year:

https://defector.com/why-your-team-sucks-2021-philadelphia-eagles/

eeriepadave

Jump up and knock the ball down! Didn't realize it was that so hard to do

Jearlpam0925

Oh hollllly shit, can't wait for the WIP callers to start if they haven't already.

The Juggler

Jearlpam0925 said:

Oh hollllly shit, can't wait for the WIP callers to start if they haven't already.

Lol. I can only imagine.



So hardly anyone played again last night. No point in watching. I don't understand how you don't get a qb like Jalen Hurts reps in preseason games. He's not Aaron Rogers. This season is essentially his try out. Why not play him a little before the games count for real? There is definitely value in these joint scrimmages, but I think the first few weeks of the season are going to be sloppier than usual, especially with one less game. They've already been getting sloppier and sloppier the last few years.

I think the quality of the game, in general, has deteriorated over the last 10 years since that cba that ended the strike. I think it was 2011 or something. They're trying to protect players' safety with the new rules and stuff but I think it's done more harm than good to the actual game. There are hardly any offseason workouts anymore. Definitely no hitting in the offseason. Training camp is a shell of what it used to be both in terms of the practice durations and intensity/hitting. You'd think with the emphasize on "safer" ways to tackle, you'd spend more time getting more reps to get used to it before the season starts to hopefully avoid a bunch of 15 yard personal foul penalties that now seem inevitable.

The combination of all the rule changes and the practice restrictions mixed with the ultra conservative approach teams take nowadays might be keeping players a little more healthy but, to me, what they're losing in terms of quality outweighs keeping a few more guys on the field.

eeriepadave

Gardner Minshew?

F Me In The Brain

I think he is a great backup.
Not a starter but a sparkplug.

eeriepadave

F Me In The Brain said:

I think he is a great backup.
Not a starter but a sparkplug.

wasn't that Flacco's job though?

F Me In The Brain

Flacco is a thousand years old / done.

pjhawks

The Juggler said:

Jearlpam0925 said:

Oh hollllly shit, can't wait for the WIP callers to start if they haven't already.

Lol. I can only imagine.



So hardly anyone played again last night. No point in watching. I don't understand how you don't get a qb like Jalen Hurts reps in preseason games. He's not Aaron Rogers. This season is essentially his try out. Why not play him a little before the games count for real? There is definitely value in these joint scrimmages, but I think the first few weeks of the season are going to be sloppier than usual, especially with one less game. They've already been getting sloppier and sloppier the last few years.

I think the quality of the game, in general, has deteriorated over the last 10 years since that cba that ended the strike. I think it was 2011 or something. They're trying to protect players' safety with the new rules and stuff but I think it's done more harm than good to the actual game. There are hardly any offseason workouts anymore. Definitely no hitting in the offseason. Training camp is a shell of what it used to be both in terms of the practice durations and intensity/hitting. You'd think with the emphasize on "safer" ways to tackle, you'd spend more time getting more reps to get used to it before the season starts to hopefully avoid a bunch of 15 yard personal foul penalties that now seem inevitable.

The combination of all the rule changes and the practice restrictions mixed with the ultra conservative approach teams take nowadays might be keeping players a little more healthy but, to me, what they're losing in terms of quality outweighs keeping a few more guys on the field.

Yea 9 plays in a press-season game is really going to help, keep believing preseason games are important.  Every year you say this and every year the risk reward doesn’t change.  Playing key players in pre-season games is dumb

Johnny Abruzzo

I think even if they play a couple preseason quarters you're talking about 98% of their prep being in practice and scrimmages, so why bother risking it in an uncontrolled environment?

The Juggler

Johnny Abruzzo said:

I think even if they play a couple preseason quarters you're talking about 98% of their prep being in practice and scrimmages, so why bother risking it in an uncontrolled environment?

The problem is also that practices are shorter and they're considerably less intense with less hitting and stuff. I don't know, I think all of this stuff adds up to a lesser product on the field, especially early in the season nowadays. 

Johnny Abruzzo

The Juggler said:

Johnny Abruzzo said:

I think even if they play a couple preseason quarters you're talking about 98% of their prep being in practice and scrimmages, so why bother risking it in an uncontrolled environment?

The problem is also that practices are shorter and they're considerably less intense with less hitting and stuff. I don't know, I think all of this stuff adds up to a lesser product on the field, especially early in the season nowadays. 

Totally agree but 2 or 3 extra preseason series I don't think will help, especially as they are purposely not showing anything interesting they're planning on doing.

Jearlpam0925

These guys aren't gonna hit unless there's money on the line. 

I've always been of the mindset that it should be rugby. Basically, if you don't know how to wrap up and tackle correctly then it's a penalty. To take it even further, I would love it if they got rid of the pads and helmets.

Johnny Abruzzo

Jearlpam0925 said:

There guys aren't gonna hit unless there's money on the line. 

I've always been of the mindset that it should be rugby. Basically, if you don't know how to wrap up and tackle correctly then it's a penalty. To take it even further, I would love it they got rid of the pads and helmets.

There's a school of thought that it would be safer without helmets & pads, which make the players feel superhuman.

Jearlpam0925

Johnny Abruzzo said:

Jearlpam0925 said:

There guys aren't gonna hit unless there's money on the line. 

I've always been of the mindset that it should be rugby. Basically, if you don't know how to wrap up and tackle correctly then it's a penalty. To take it even further, I would love it they got rid of the pads and helmets.

There's a school of thought that it would be safer without helmets & pads, which make the players feel superhuman.

Exactly where I land with it. You'd have less reason to use your body/head as a missile if you take all that shit away.

The Juggler

Johnny Abruzzo said:

The Juggler said:

Johnny Abruzzo said:

I think even if they play a couple preseason quarters you're talking about 98% of their prep being in practice and scrimmages, so why bother risking it in an uncontrolled environment?

The problem is also that practices are shorter and they're considerably less intense with less hitting and stuff. I don't know, I think all of this stuff adds up to a lesser product on the field, especially early in the season nowadays. 

Totally agree but 2 or 3 extra preseason series I don't think will help, especially as they are purposely not showing anything interesting they're planning on doing.

Not talking just a few series. Used to be, starters played a few series in the first game, the first quarter in the second game and the entire first half plus, sometimes, a bit into the 3rd quarter in the third game. They treated the third games as a dress rehearsal for the season. This was common up until the last decade or so. I don't think it is a coincidence that the quality of play has declined during that timeframe.

The Juggler

First day back from the foot thing, this unvaccinated moron ends up on the Covid list. So glad we don't have to deal with him anymore

https://sports.yahoo.com/nfl-colts-place-qb-carson-wentz-2-others-on-reserve-covid-19-list-172351110.html

Colts place QB Carson Wentz, 2 others on reserve/COVID-19 list

Indianapolis Colts quarterback Carson Wentz, who recently returned from foot surgery, has been placed on the reserve/COVID-19 list. Center Ryan Kelly and wide receiver Zach Pascal were also placed on the list.

The team did not reveal why they were placed on the list. Unvaccinated players can be placed on the reserve/COVID-19 list if they've been deemed a close contact of someone who has tested positive, or if they've tested positive themselves. Vaccinated players are only placed on the list if they've tested positive.

Wentz has declined to say whether or not he's vaccinated, and neither Pascal or Kelly are on the record about their vaccination status. If they're unvaccinated close contacts, which is the best case scenario, then they'll return on Monday, presuming that their tests come back negative every day until then. But if they've tested positive, they'll be out for nearly two weeks. 

Could Wentz's Week 1 start be in danger?

The Colts haven't definitively said that Wentz will start Week 1, but after practicing last week for the first time since his early August foot surgery, it's certainly been trending that way. Especially since Sam Ehlinger, their backup QB, will be out 5-6 weeks with a sprained knee. 

But Wentz's placement on the reserve/COVID-19 list could put that in jeopardy. Here are the three scenarios for Wentz's return to camp. 

1. If Wentz is vaccinated and tested positive, then he can come back as soon as he's asymptomatic and he's had two negative tests 24 hours apart. That could be in as little as a few days. 

2. If Wentz is unvaccinated and is a close contact of someone who tested positive, he needs five days of negative tests before he can reenter the facility. He would be back for practice early next week if all of his tests come back negative. 

3. If Wentz is unvaccinated and tested positive, then he must isolate for 10 days at minimum. He wouldn't be able to return to practice until late next week, just a few days before the Colts' Week 1 game. 

Wentz's practice time dwindles as each option goes on. If he's unvaccinated, he could have anywhere from four days of practice before Week 1 to close to zero. That's not the best way for a still-healing quarterback to go into his first game for a new team. But even though Wentz will almost certainly miss this week practice at the very least, Colts head coach Frank Reich doesn't have a lot of options. With Ehlinger out of commission, Wentz may still be his best bet. 

Jearlpam0925

Again, if he misses time due to Covid and that shit is against his snaps for our future pick I blame Howie. That shit should be worthy of an appeal with the league or something.