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  • Two teams looked really bad last night. One team was on the road on Christmas Day (not that it's a great excuse). One team had no excuse at all.

    If that's all the Eagles got... it's one and done for them in the playoffs.
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  • eeriepadave
    eeriepadave West Chester, PA Posts: 43,269
    so last week offense was good, defense sucked.  This week, offense sucked and defense was pretty good. 

    Wonder if they'll rest some people since the game is pretty much meaningless or play some to get their shit together?
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  • The Juggler
    The Juggler Posts: 49,598
    edited December 2017
    so last week offense was good, defense sucked.  This week, offense sucked and defense was pretty good. 

    Wonder if they'll rest some people since the game is pretty much meaningless or play some to get their shit together?


    I don't get throwing it 65% of the time with your back up who is struggling. Play calling was very suspect last night. Ajayi should be getting 20 touches a game at this point. They need to grind out wins if they want any hope of beating good teams next month.

    Foles is one streaky sumbitch. When he's on, he can toss 7 td's in a game....when he's off, he's like the qb we saw last night. There's not too much in between with him. Maybe go more up-tempo for him...

    At least the defense came alive in the second half (after that first drive). If we can get that kind of effort and if the offense can be somewhere in between last night and last week, that will give them a shot at winning an ugly game or two at home. Tough call next week. I guess sitting them is the smart move even though, I'd like to see them for a least a half look good to give them a little jolt of confidence.

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  • JK_Livin
    JK_Livin South Jersey Posts: 7,365
    We'll be fine. Can't wait to see the Nate Sudfeld era begin and end on Sunday.
    Alright, alright, alright!
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  • pjhawks
    pjhawks Posts: 12,933
    edited December 2017
    so last week offense was good, defense sucked.  This week, offense sucked and defense was pretty good. 

    Wonder if they'll rest some people since the game is pretty much meaningless or play some to get their shit together?


    I don't get throwing it 65% of the time with your back up who is struggling. Play calling was very suspect last night. Ajayi should be getting 20 touches a game at this point. They need to grind out wins if they want any hope of beating good teams next month.

    Foles is one streaky sumbitch. When he's on, he can toss 7 td's in a game....when he's off, he's like the qb we saw last night. There's not too much in between with him. Maybe go more up-tempo for him...

    At least the defense came alive in the second half (after that first drive). If we can get that kind of effort and if the offense can be somewhere in between last night and last week, that will give them a shot at winning an ugly game or two at home. Tough call next week. I guess sitting them is the smart move even though, I'd like to see them for a least a half look good to give them a little jolt of confidence.

    i knew once Wentz got hurt the idiocy in the fan base would return.

    38 passes and 21 rushes BUT of those 38 passes 10 came on the last drive of the 1st half (and 1 run) that started at 3:08 (8 passes after 2:00 minute warning) and 5 came on the last drive of the game.  So take out those 2 drives and the ratio was 23 passes and 20 runs.  so right in your preferred acceptable ratio. 

    And Foles shouldn't play a down this week.  The risk is far greater than the reward of him playing. I'd also sit Johnson, Kelce, Ertz, Cox and Jenkins this week.
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  • The Juggler
    The Juggler Posts: 49,598
    ^
    21 running plays called in the entire game. Would you like to guess how many of them were called during their only sustained drive that resulted in their only touchdown of the game?

    NINE.

    Nine runs and two passes on their only offensive touchdown scoring drive of the entire game. Almost half of their entire runs in the game on this one drive. N.I.N.E. T.I.M.E.S they ran the ball. 11 plays. 58 yards. Chews up 6 minutes and and 16 seconds of clock. This is the only drive of the game they even resembled the offense we're accustomed to this year. The rest of the game? 11 runs total. Not going to work like that in January. 

    Clement got two carries and averaged 7 yards a rush. Ajayi is and has always been a volume back. He needs more than just 14 carries a game to be effective. Cold windy night with Folks playing like garbage and the receivers not getting open, this is the kind of game you call 38 runs and 21 passes, not the other way around. Gotta be smarter than that against much better teams next month. 



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  • The Juggler
    The Juggler Posts: 49,598
    JK_Livin said:
    We'll be fine. Can't wait to see the Nate Sudfeld era begin and end on Sunday.
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  • JK_Livin
    JK_Livin South Jersey Posts: 7,365
    JK_Livin said:
    We'll be fine. Can't wait to see the Nate Sudfeld era begin and end on Sunday.
    STUDfeld
    I stand corrected.
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  • pjhawks
    pjhawks Posts: 12,933
    edited December 2017
    ^
    21 running plays called in the entire game. Would you like to guess how many of them were called during their only sustained drive that resulted in their only touchdown of the game?

    NINE.

    Nine runs and two passes on their only offensive touchdown scoring drive of the entire game. Almost half of their entire runs in the game on this one drive. N.I.N.E. T.I.M.E.S they ran the ball. 11 plays. 58 yards. Chews up 6 minutes and and 16 seconds of clock. This is the only drive of the game they even resembled the offense we're accustomed to this year. The rest of the game? 11 runs total. Not going to work like that in January. 

    Clement got two carries and averaged 7 yards a rush. Ajayi is and has always been a volume back. He needs more than just 14 carries a game to be effective. Cold windy night with Folks playing like garbage and the receivers not getting open, this is the kind of game you call 38 runs and 21 passes, not the other way around. Gotta be smarter than that against much better teams next month. 



    Stick to your shitty St Joes basketball team, 'Takes.
    ah when you lose the argument change the argument.  Literally the first line you posted was about the percentages of runs to pass. I proved it was bullshit based on the two end of half drives so now you change the argument. Next time lead with the scoring drive that had 9 runs.

    i will stick with my Hawks as I always do.  Looking forward to conference play. 
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  • The Juggler
    The Juggler Posts: 49,598
    edited December 2017
    pjhawks said:
    ^
    21 running plays called in the entire game. Would you like to guess how many of them were called during their only sustained drive that resulted in their only touchdown of the game?

    NINE.

    Nine runs and two passes on their only offensive touchdown scoring drive of the entire game. Almost half of their entire runs in the game on this one drive. N.I.N.E. T.I.M.E.S they ran the ball. 11 plays. 58 yards. Chews up 6 minutes and and 16 seconds of clock. This is the only drive of the game they even resembled the offense we're accustomed to this year. The rest of the game? 11 runs total. Not going to work like that in January. 

    Clement got two carries and averaged 7 yards a rush. Ajayi is and has always been a volume back. He needs more than just 14 carries a game to be effective. Cold windy night with Folks playing like garbage and the receivers not getting open, this is the kind of game you call 38 runs and 21 passes, not the other way around. Gotta be smarter than that against much better teams next month. 



    Stick to your shitty St Joes basketball team, 'Takes.
    ah when you lose the argument change the argument.  Literally the first line you posted was about the percentages of runs to pass. I proved it was bullshit based on the two end of half drives so now you change the argument. Next time lead with the scoring drive that had 9 runs.

    i will stick with my Hawks as I always do.  Looking forward to conference play. 
    Oh you're under the assumption this is an argument? That's why you're confused. This isn't an argument. This is one informed fan explaining something to an uninformed person. 

    They passed the ball too much on a night when the conditions were bad and the back up quarterback was struggling and the receivers were not getting open. Regarding percentages, I put it in bold. I said I would have rather ran 38 times and thrown 21 times. So I don't know what you're talking about, unless you just chose to ignore that part of my post.

    Also, as I and others have tried to explain to you countless times over the years, it's not just how many times but WHEN you run. When almost half of your runs come on the only successful drive of the game, logic dictates that it's working and you might want to stick with it. They didn't and almost lost to a bad team who had nothing to play for.

    And I ignored your little idea of removing pass plays from two drives thing because it's......just a sorry and pathetic way of manipulating numbers to convey an illogical point. If you're going to remove the two largest passing drives, it would make sense to also remove the two largest running drives to get a fairer idea of what happened during the rest of the game. So remove the 9 from their only successful drive and 3 from the following drive (yes 3 was the next highest number). So you're left with 23 passes and 9 runs......oh, hey, look at that. Passing on a 71% clip. Gotta be better than that next month.



    Get lost, 'Takes. You're just no good at this.


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  • pjhawks
    pjhawks Posts: 12,933
    pjhawks said:
    ^
    21 running plays called in the entire game. Would you like to guess how many of them were called during their only sustained drive that resulted in their only touchdown of the game?

    NINE.

    Nine runs and two passes on their only offensive touchdown scoring drive of the entire game. Almost half of their entire runs in the game on this one drive. N.I.N.E. T.I.M.E.S they ran the ball. 11 plays. 58 yards. Chews up 6 minutes and and 16 seconds of clock. This is the only drive of the game they even resembled the offense we're accustomed to this year. The rest of the game? 11 runs total. Not going to work like that in January. 

    Clement got two carries and averaged 7 yards a rush. Ajayi is and has always been a volume back. He needs more than just 14 carries a game to be effective. Cold windy night with Folks playing like garbage and the receivers not getting open, this is the kind of game you call 38 runs and 21 passes, not the other way around. Gotta be smarter than that against much better teams next month. 



    Stick to your shitty St Joes basketball team, 'Takes.
    ah when you lose the argument change the argument.  Literally the first line you posted was about the percentages of runs to pass. I proved it was bullshit based on the two end of half drives so now you change the argument. Next time lead with the scoring drive that had 9 runs.

    i will stick with my Hawks as I always do.  Looking forward to conference play. 
    Oh you're under the assumption this is an argument? That's why you're confused. This isn't an argument. This is one informed fan explaining something to an uninformed person. 

    They passed the ball too much on a night when the conditions were bad and the back up quarterback was struggling and the receivers were not getting open. Regarding percentages, I put it in bold. I said I would have rather ran 38 times and thrown 21 times. So I don't know what you're talking about, unless you just chose to ignore that part of my post.

    Also, as I and others have tried to explain to you countless times over the years, it's not just how many times but WHEN you run. When almost half of your runs come on the only successful drive of the game, logic dictates that it's working and you might want to stick with it. They didn't and almost lost to a bad team who had nothing to play for.

    And I ignored your little idea of removing pass plays from two drives thing because it's......just a sorry and pathetic way of manipulating numbers to convey an illogical point. If you're going to remove the two largest passing drives, it would make sense to also remove the two largest running drives to get a fairer idea of what happened during the rest of the game. So remove the 9 from their only successful drive and 3 from the following drive (yes 3 was the next highest number). So you're left with 23 passes and 9 runs......oh, hey, look at that. Passing on a 71% clip. Gotta be better than that next month.



    Get lost, 'Takes. You're just no good at this.


    you just don't understand today's NFL if you think running the ball 60% of more of the time is a way to win.  some facts below...

    only 1 team in over a decade has run the ball even 50% of the time during their season and has won a Super Bowl. The 2013/2014 Seahawks who had a historically good defense. And you want this Eagles team to run something like 65% of the time? Utterly fucking absurd.

    only 3 teams in the current playoff race are with 1 percentage point of running it 50% of the time..and you want the Eagles to run it 65% of the time?  again utterly fucking absurd.




  • The Juggler
    The Juggler Posts: 49,598
    edited December 2017
    pjhawks said:
    pjhawks said:
    ^
    21 running plays called in the entire game. Would you like to guess how many of them were called during their only sustained drive that resulted in their only touchdown of the game?

    NINE.

    Nine runs and two passes on their only offensive touchdown scoring drive of the entire game. Almost half of their entire runs in the game on this one drive. N.I.N.E. T.I.M.E.S they ran the ball. 11 plays. 58 yards. Chews up 6 minutes and and 16 seconds of clock. This is the only drive of the game they even resembled the offense we're accustomed to this year. The rest of the game? 11 runs total. Not going to work like that in January. 

    Clement got two carries and averaged 7 yards a rush. Ajayi is and has always been a volume back. He needs more than just 14 carries a game to be effective. Cold windy night with Folks playing like garbage and the receivers not getting open, this is the kind of game you call 38 runs and 21 passes, not the other way around. Gotta be smarter than that against much better teams next month. 



    Stick to your shitty St Joes basketball team, 'Takes.
    ah when you lose the argument change the argument.  Literally the first line you posted was about the percentages of runs to pass. I proved it was bullshit based on the two end of half drives so now you change the argument. Next time lead with the scoring drive that had 9 runs.

    i will stick with my Hawks as I always do.  Looking forward to conference play. 
    Oh you're under the assumption this is an argument? That's why you're confused. This isn't an argument. This is one informed fan explaining something to an uninformed person. 

    They passed the ball too much on a night when the conditions were bad and the back up quarterback was struggling and the receivers were not getting open. Regarding percentages, I put it in bold. I said I would have rather ran 38 times and thrown 21 times. So I don't know what you're talking about, unless you just chose to ignore that part of my post.

    Also, as I and others have tried to explain to you countless times over the years, it's not just how many times but WHEN you run. When almost half of your runs come on the only successful drive of the game, logic dictates that it's working and you might want to stick with it. They didn't and almost lost to a bad team who had nothing to play for.

    And I ignored your little idea of removing pass plays from two drives thing because it's......just a sorry and pathetic way of manipulating numbers to convey an illogical point. If you're going to remove the two largest passing drives, it would make sense to also remove the two largest running drives to get a fairer idea of what happened during the rest of the game. So remove the 9 from their only successful drive and 3 from the following drive (yes 3 was the next highest number). So you're left with 23 passes and 9 runs......oh, hey, look at that. Passing on a 71% clip. Gotta be better than that next month.



    Get lost, 'Takes. You're just no good at this.


    you just don't understand today's NFL if you think running the ball 60% of more of the time is a way to win.  some facts below...

    only 1 team in over a decade has run the ball even 50% of the time during their season and has won a Super Bowl. The 2013/2014 Seahawks who had a historically good defense. And you want this Eagles team to run something like 65% of the time? Utterly fucking absurd.

    only 3 teams in the current playoff race are with 1 percentage point of running it 50% of the time..and you want the Eagles to run it 65% of the time?  again utterly fucking absurd.




    ONE game, you dummy. We're talking about this week's game with a struggling back up quarterback in cold windy conditions when his receivers could not get open. And I see you have nothing to combat what I said in my last post so you provide bogus, incomplete stats yet again.

    Hey, look at this! Here's all of the first place teams and their run pass ratios for clarity:

    TEAM:   PASS/RUN
    PATS:         57/43 
    PITT:           57/43
    JAGS:         49/51
    CHIEFS:     57/43
    EAGLES:    53/47
    VIKINGS:    52/48
    SAINTS:     55/45
    RAMS:        53/47

    AVG: 54/46.  ----right where I've always suggested winning teams should be. They're actually running more this year than in the last few. You'll notice that the Eagles, who have the best record in the league have a 53/47 ratio. So passing it 65% of the time, with all the other factors I've mentioned, isn't quite the best recipe for their success.

    And I know it's shocking to you, but some games dictate that you should run more than pass. Sunday night was one of those nights.

    You have nothing. You always have nothing. 

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  • pjhawks
    pjhawks Posts: 12,933
    edited December 2017
    pjhawks said:
    pjhawks said:
    ^
    21 running plays called in the entire game. Would you like to guess how many of them were called during their only sustained drive that resulted in their only touchdown of the game?

    NINE.

    Nine runs and two passes on their only offensive touchdown scoring drive of the entire game. Almost half of their entire runs in the game on this one drive. N.I.N.E. T.I.M.E.S they ran the ball. 11 plays. 58 yards. Chews up 6 minutes and and 16 seconds of clock. This is the only drive of the game they even resembled the offense we're accustomed to this year. The rest of the game? 11 runs total. Not going to work like that in January. 

    Clement got two carries and averaged 7 yards a rush. Ajayi is and has always been a volume back. He needs more than just 14 carries a game to be effective. Cold windy night with Folks playing like garbage and the receivers not getting open, this is the kind of game you call 38 runs and 21 passes, not the other way around. Gotta be smarter than that against much better teams next month. 



    Stick to your shitty St Joes basketball team, 'Takes.
    ah when you lose the argument change the argument.  Literally the first line you posted was about the percentages of runs to pass. I proved it was bullshit based on the two end of half drives so now you change the argument. Next time lead with the scoring drive that had 9 runs.

    i will stick with my Hawks as I always do.  Looking forward to conference play. 
    Oh you're under the assumption this is an argument? That's why you're confused. This isn't an argument. This is one informed fan explaining something to an uninformed person. 

    They passed the ball too much on a night when the conditions were bad and the back up quarterback was struggling and the receivers were not getting open. Regarding percentages, I put it in bold. I said I would have rather ran 38 times and thrown 21 times. So I don't know what you're talking about, unless you just chose to ignore that part of my post.

    Also, as I and others have tried to explain to you countless times over the years, it's not just how many times but WHEN you run. When almost half of your runs come on the only successful drive of the game, logic dictates that it's working and you might want to stick with it. They didn't and almost lost to a bad team who had nothing to play for.

    And I ignored your little idea of removing pass plays from two drives thing because it's......just a sorry and pathetic way of manipulating numbers to convey an illogical point. If you're going to remove the two largest passing drives, it would make sense to also remove the two largest running drives to get a fairer idea of what happened during the rest of the game. So remove the 9 from their only successful drive and 3 from the following drive (yes 3 was the next highest number). So you're left with 23 passes and 9 runs......oh, hey, look at that. Passing on a 71% clip. Gotta be better than that next month.



    Get lost, 'Takes. You're just no good at this.


    you just don't understand today's NFL if you think running the ball 60% of more of the time is a way to win.  some facts below...

    only 1 team in over a decade has run the ball even 50% of the time during their season and has won a Super Bowl. The 2013/2014 Seahawks who had a historically good defense. And you want this Eagles team to run something like 65% of the time? Utterly fucking absurd.

    only 3 teams in the current playoff race are with 1 percentage point of running it 50% of the time..and you want the Eagles to run it 65% of the time?  again utterly fucking absurd.




    ONE game, you dummy. We're talking about this week's game with a struggling back up quarterback in cold windy conditions when his receivers could not get open. And I see you have nothing to combat what I said in my last post so you provide bogus, incomplete stats yet again.

    Hey, look at this! Here's all of the first place teams and their run pass ratios for clarity:

    TEAM:   PASS/RUN
    PATS:         57/43 
    PITT:           57/43
    JAGS:         49/51
    CHIEFS:     57/43
    EAGLES:    53/47
    VIKINGS:    52/48
    SAINTS:     55/45
    RAMS:        53/47

    AVG: 54/46.  ----right where I've always suggested winning teams should be. They're actually running more this year than in the last few. You'll notice that the Eagles, who have the best record in the league have a 53/47 ratio. So passing it 65% of the time, with all the other factors I've mentioned, isn't quite the best recipe for their success.

    And I know it's shocking to you, but some games dictate that you should run more than pass. Sunday night was one of those nights.

    You have nothing. You always have nothing. 

    edit: eh you're not worth it.  have a good day and life.
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  • The Juggler
    The Juggler Posts: 49,598
    edited December 2017
    pjhawks said:
    pjhawks said:
    pjhawks said:
    ^
    21 running plays called in the entire game. Would you like to guess how many of them were called during their only sustained drive that resulted in their only touchdown of the game?

    NINE.

    Nine runs and two passes on their only offensive touchdown scoring drive of the entire game. Almost half of their entire runs in the game on this one drive. N.I.N.E. T.I.M.E.S they ran the ball. 11 plays. 58 yards. Chews up 6 minutes and and 16 seconds of clock. This is the only drive of the game they even resembled the offense we're accustomed to this year. The rest of the game? 11 runs total. Not going to work like that in January. 

    Clement got two carries and averaged 7 yards a rush. Ajayi is and has always been a volume back. He needs more than just 14 carries a game to be effective. Cold windy night with Folks playing like garbage and the receivers not getting open, this is the kind of game you call 38 runs and 21 passes, not the other way around. Gotta be smarter than that against much better teams next month. 



    Stick to your shitty St Joes basketball team, 'Takes.
    ah when you lose the argument change the argument.  Literally the first line you posted was about the percentages of runs to pass. I proved it was bullshit based on the two end of half drives so now you change the argument. Next time lead with the scoring drive that had 9 runs.

    i will stick with my Hawks as I always do.  Looking forward to conference play. 
    Oh you're under the assumption this is an argument? That's why you're confused. This isn't an argument. This is one informed fan explaining something to an uninformed person. 

    They passed the ball too much on a night when the conditions were bad and the back up quarterback was struggling and the receivers were not getting open. Regarding percentages, I put it in bold. I said I would have rather ran 38 times and thrown 21 times. So I don't know what you're talking about, unless you just chose to ignore that part of my post.

    Also, as I and others have tried to explain to you countless times over the years, it's not just how many times but WHEN you run. When almost half of your runs come on the only successful drive of the game, logic dictates that it's working and you might want to stick with it. They didn't and almost lost to a bad team who had nothing to play for.

    And I ignored your little idea of removing pass plays from two drives thing because it's......just a sorry and pathetic way of manipulating numbers to convey an illogical point. If you're going to remove the two largest passing drives, it would make sense to also remove the two largest running drives to get a fairer idea of what happened during the rest of the game. So remove the 9 from their only successful drive and 3 from the following drive (yes 3 was the next highest number). So you're left with 23 passes and 9 runs......oh, hey, look at that. Passing on a 71% clip. Gotta be better than that next month.



    Get lost, 'Takes. You're just no good at this.


    you just don't understand today's NFL if you think running the ball 60% of more of the time is a way to win.  some facts below...

    only 1 team in over a decade has run the ball even 50% of the time during their season and has won a Super Bowl. The 2013/2014 Seahawks who had a historically good defense. And you want this Eagles team to run something like 65% of the time? Utterly fucking absurd.

    only 3 teams in the current playoff race are with 1 percentage point of running it 50% of the time..and you want the Eagles to run it 65% of the time?  again utterly fucking absurd.




    ONE game, you dummy. We're talking about this week's game with a struggling back up quarterback in cold windy conditions when his receivers could not get open. And I see you have nothing to combat what I said in my last post so you provide bogus, incomplete stats yet again.

    Hey, look at this! Here's all of the first place teams and their run pass ratios for clarity:

    TEAM:   PASS/RUN
    PATS:         57/43 
    PITT:           57/43
    JAGS:         49/51
    CHIEFS:     57/43
    EAGLES:    53/47
    VIKINGS:    52/48
    SAINTS:     55/45
    RAMS:        53/47

    AVG: 54/46.  ----right where I've always suggested winning teams should be. They're actually running more this year than in the last few. You'll notice that the Eagles, who have the best record in the league have a 53/47 ratio. So passing it 65% of the time, with all the other factors I've mentioned, isn't quite the best recipe for their success.

    And I know it's shocking to you, but some games dictate that you should run more than pass. Sunday night was one of those nights.

    You have nothing. You always have nothing. 

    edit: eh you're not worth it.  have a good day and life.
    Better luck next time. 
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  • pjhawks
    pjhawks Posts: 12,933
    pjhawks said:
    pjhawks said:
    pjhawks said:
    ^
    21 running plays called in the entire game. Would you like to guess how many of them were called during their only sustained drive that resulted in their only touchdown of the game?

    NINE.

    Nine runs and two passes on their only offensive touchdown scoring drive of the entire game. Almost half of their entire runs in the game on this one drive. N.I.N.E. T.I.M.E.S they ran the ball. 11 plays. 58 yards. Chews up 6 minutes and and 16 seconds of clock. This is the only drive of the game they even resembled the offense we're accustomed to this year. The rest of the game? 11 runs total. Not going to work like that in January. 

    Clement got two carries and averaged 7 yards a rush. Ajayi is and has always been a volume back. He needs more than just 14 carries a game to be effective. Cold windy night with Folks playing like garbage and the receivers not getting open, this is the kind of game you call 38 runs and 21 passes, not the other way around. Gotta be smarter than that against much better teams next month. 



    Stick to your shitty St Joes basketball team, 'Takes.
    ah when you lose the argument change the argument.  Literally the first line you posted was about the percentages of runs to pass. I proved it was bullshit based on the two end of half drives so now you change the argument. Next time lead with the scoring drive that had 9 runs.

    i will stick with my Hawks as I always do.  Looking forward to conference play. 
    Oh you're under the assumption this is an argument? That's why you're confused. This isn't an argument. This is one informed fan explaining something to an uninformed person. 

    They passed the ball too much on a night when the conditions were bad and the back up quarterback was struggling and the receivers were not getting open. Regarding percentages, I put it in bold. I said I would have rather ran 38 times and thrown 21 times. So I don't know what you're talking about, unless you just chose to ignore that part of my post.

    Also, as I and others have tried to explain to you countless times over the years, it's not just how many times but WHEN you run. When almost half of your runs come on the only successful drive of the game, logic dictates that it's working and you might want to stick with it. They didn't and almost lost to a bad team who had nothing to play for.

    And I ignored your little idea of removing pass plays from two drives thing because it's......just a sorry and pathetic way of manipulating numbers to convey an illogical point. If you're going to remove the two largest passing drives, it would make sense to also remove the two largest running drives to get a fairer idea of what happened during the rest of the game. So remove the 9 from their only successful drive and 3 from the following drive (yes 3 was the next highest number). So you're left with 23 passes and 9 runs......oh, hey, look at that. Passing on a 71% clip. Gotta be better than that next month.



    Get lost, 'Takes. You're just no good at this.


    you just don't understand today's NFL if you think running the ball 60% of more of the time is a way to win.  some facts below...

    only 1 team in over a decade has run the ball even 50% of the time during their season and has won a Super Bowl. The 2013/2014 Seahawks who had a historically good defense. And you want this Eagles team to run something like 65% of the time? Utterly fucking absurd.

    only 3 teams in the current playoff race are with 1 percentage point of running it 50% of the time..and you want the Eagles to run it 65% of the time?  again utterly fucking absurd.




    ONE game, you dummy. We're talking about this week's game with a struggling back up quarterback in cold windy conditions when his receivers could not get open. And I see you have nothing to combat what I said in my last post so you provide bogus, incomplete stats yet again.

    Hey, look at this! Here's all of the first place teams and their run pass ratios for clarity:

    TEAM:   PASS/RUN
    PATS:         57/43 
    PITT:           57/43
    JAGS:         49/51
    CHIEFS:     57/43
    EAGLES:    53/47
    VIKINGS:    52/48
    SAINTS:     55/45
    RAMS:        53/47

    AVG: 54/46.  ----right where I've always suggested winning teams should be. They're actually running more this year than in the last few. You'll notice that the Eagles, who have the best record in the league have a 53/47 ratio. So passing it 65% of the time, with all the other factors I've mentioned, isn't quite the best recipe for their success.

    And I know it's shocking to you, but some games dictate that you should run more than pass. Sunday night was one of those nights.

    You have nothing. You always have nothing. 

    edit: eh you're not worth it.  have a good day and life.
    Better luck next time. 
    don't need luck when you have facts. 

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pc0mxOXbWIU&has_verified=1



  • eeriepadave
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  • The Juggler
    The Juggler Posts: 49,598
    pjhawks said:
    pjhawks said:
    pjhawks said:
    pjhawks said:
    ^
    21 running plays called in the entire game. Would you like to guess how many of them were called during their only sustained drive that resulted in their only touchdown of the game?

    NINE.

    Nine runs and two passes on their only offensive touchdown scoring drive of the entire game. Almost half of their entire runs in the game on this one drive. N.I.N.E. T.I.M.E.S they ran the ball. 11 plays. 58 yards. Chews up 6 minutes and and 16 seconds of clock. This is the only drive of the game they even resembled the offense we're accustomed to this year. The rest of the game? 11 runs total. Not going to work like that in January. 

    Clement got two carries and averaged 7 yards a rush. Ajayi is and has always been a volume back. He needs more than just 14 carries a game to be effective. Cold windy night with Folks playing like garbage and the receivers not getting open, this is the kind of game you call 38 runs and 21 passes, not the other way around. Gotta be smarter than that against much better teams next month. 



    Stick to your shitty St Joes basketball team, 'Takes.
    ah when you lose the argument change the argument.  Literally the first line you posted was about the percentages of runs to pass. I proved it was bullshit based on the two end of half drives so now you change the argument. Next time lead with the scoring drive that had 9 runs.

    i will stick with my Hawks as I always do.  Looking forward to conference play. 
    Oh you're under the assumption this is an argument? That's why you're confused. This isn't an argument. This is one informed fan explaining something to an uninformed person. 

    They passed the ball too much on a night when the conditions were bad and the back up quarterback was struggling and the receivers were not getting open. Regarding percentages, I put it in bold. I said I would have rather ran 38 times and thrown 21 times. So I don't know what you're talking about, unless you just chose to ignore that part of my post.

    Also, as I and others have tried to explain to you countless times over the years, it's not just how many times but WHEN you run. When almost half of your runs come on the only successful drive of the game, logic dictates that it's working and you might want to stick with it. They didn't and almost lost to a bad team who had nothing to play for.

    And I ignored your little idea of removing pass plays from two drives thing because it's......just a sorry and pathetic way of manipulating numbers to convey an illogical point. If you're going to remove the two largest passing drives, it would make sense to also remove the two largest running drives to get a fairer idea of what happened during the rest of the game. So remove the 9 from their only successful drive and 3 from the following drive (yes 3 was the next highest number). So you're left with 23 passes and 9 runs......oh, hey, look at that. Passing on a 71% clip. Gotta be better than that next month.



    Get lost, 'Takes. You're just no good at this.


    you just don't understand today's NFL if you think running the ball 60% of more of the time is a way to win.  some facts below...

    only 1 team in over a decade has run the ball even 50% of the time during their season and has won a Super Bowl. The 2013/2014 Seahawks who had a historically good defense. And you want this Eagles team to run something like 65% of the time? Utterly fucking absurd.

    only 3 teams in the current playoff race are with 1 percentage point of running it 50% of the time..and you want the Eagles to run it 65% of the time?  again utterly fucking absurd.




    ONE game, you dummy. We're talking about this week's game with a struggling back up quarterback in cold windy conditions when his receivers could not get open. And I see you have nothing to combat what I said in my last post so you provide bogus, incomplete stats yet again.

    Hey, look at this! Here's all of the first place teams and their run pass ratios for clarity:

    TEAM:   PASS/RUN
    PATS:         57/43 
    PITT:           57/43
    JAGS:         49/51
    CHIEFS:     57/43
    EAGLES:    53/47
    VIKINGS:    52/48
    SAINTS:     55/45
    RAMS:        53/47

    AVG: 54/46.  ----right where I've always suggested winning teams should be. They're actually running more this year than in the last few. You'll notice that the Eagles, who have the best record in the league have a 53/47 ratio. So passing it 65% of the time, with all the other factors I've mentioned, isn't quite the best recipe for their success.

    And I know it's shocking to you, but some games dictate that you should run more than pass. Sunday night was one of those nights.

    You have nothing. You always have nothing. 

    edit: eh you're not worth it.  have a good day and life.
    Better luck next time. 
    don't need luck when you have facts. 

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pc0mxOXbWIU&has_verified=1



    When presented with the facts, you said “eh you’re not worth it have a nice day.”

    Here’s a free tip. If you’re point of view is flimsy, incoherrent, and full of holes, don’t lead off by calling the other person an idiot. 
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  • pjhawks
    pjhawks Posts: 12,933
    edited December 2017
    pjhawks said:
    pjhawks said:
    pjhawks said:
    pjhawks said:
    ^
    21 running plays called in the entire game. Would you like to guess how many of them were called during their only sustained drive that resulted in their only touchdown of the game?

    NINE.

    Nine runs and two passes on their only offensive touchdown scoring drive of the entire game. Almost half of their entire runs in the game on this one drive. N.I.N.E. T.I.M.E.S they ran the ball. 11 plays. 58 yards. Chews up 6 minutes and and 16 seconds of clock. This is the only drive of the game they even resembled the offense we're accustomed to this year. The rest of the game? 11 runs total. Not going to work like that in January. 

    Clement got two carries and averaged 7 yards a rush. Ajayi is and has always been a volume back. He needs more than just 14 carries a game to be effective. Cold windy night with Folks playing like garbage and the receivers not getting open, this is the kind of game you call 38 runs and 21 passes, not the other way around. Gotta be smarter than that against much better teams next month. 



    Stick to your shitty St Joes basketball team, 'Takes.
    ah when you lose the argument change the argument.  Literally the first line you posted was about the percentages of runs to pass. I proved it was bullshit based on the two end of half drives so now you change the argument. Next time lead with the scoring drive that had 9 runs.

    i will stick with my Hawks as I always do.  Looking forward to conference play. 
    Oh you're under the assumption this is an argument? That's why you're confused. This isn't an argument. This is one informed fan explaining something to an uninformed person. 

    They passed the ball too much on a night when the conditions were bad and the back up quarterback was struggling and the receivers were not getting open. Regarding percentages, I put it in bold. I said I would have rather ran 38 times and thrown 21 times. So I don't know what you're talking about, unless you just chose to ignore that part of my post.

    Also, as I and others have tried to explain to you countless times over the years, it's not just how many times but WHEN you run. When almost half of your runs come on the only successful drive of the game, logic dictates that it's working and you might want to stick with it. They didn't and almost lost to a bad team who had nothing to play for.

    And I ignored your little idea of removing pass plays from two drives thing because it's......just a sorry and pathetic way of manipulating numbers to convey an illogical point. If you're going to remove the two largest passing drives, it would make sense to also remove the two largest running drives to get a fairer idea of what happened during the rest of the game. So remove the 9 from their only successful drive and 3 from the following drive (yes 3 was the next highest number). So you're left with 23 passes and 9 runs......oh, hey, look at that. Passing on a 71% clip. Gotta be better than that next month.



    Get lost, 'Takes. You're just no good at this.


    you just don't understand today's NFL if you think running the ball 60% of more of the time is a way to win.  some facts below...

    only 1 team in over a decade has run the ball even 50% of the time during their season and has won a Super Bowl. The 2013/2014 Seahawks who had a historically good defense. And you want this Eagles team to run something like 65% of the time? Utterly fucking absurd.

    only 3 teams in the current playoff race are with 1 percentage point of running it 50% of the time..and you want the Eagles to run it 65% of the time?  again utterly fucking absurd.




    ONE game, you dummy. We're talking about this week's game with a struggling back up quarterback in cold windy conditions when his receivers could not get open. And I see you have nothing to combat what I said in my last post so you provide bogus, incomplete stats yet again.

    Hey, look at this! Here's all of the first place teams and their run pass ratios for clarity:

    TEAM:   PASS/RUN
    PATS:         57/43 
    PITT:           57/43
    JAGS:         49/51
    CHIEFS:     57/43
    EAGLES:    53/47
    VIKINGS:    52/48
    SAINTS:     55/45
    RAMS:        53/47

    AVG: 54/46.  ----right where I've always suggested winning teams should be. They're actually running more this year than in the last few. You'll notice that the Eagles, who have the best record in the league have a 53/47 ratio. So passing it 65% of the time, with all the other factors I've mentioned, isn't quite the best recipe for their success.

    And I know it's shocking to you, but some games dictate that you should run more than pass. Sunday night was one of those nights.

    You have nothing. You always have nothing. 

    edit: eh you're not worth it.  have a good day and life.
    Better luck next time. 
    don't need luck when you have facts. 

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pc0mxOXbWIU&has_verified=1



    When presented with the facts, you said “eh you’re not worth it have a nice day.”

    Here’s a free tip. If you’re point of view is flimsy, incoherrent, and full of holes, don’t lead off by calling the other person an idiot. 
    you are an idiot. i mean 8-8 will win division, Eagles should run the ball 65% of the time, Chip Kelly is revolutionizing the game, Dakota Tebow, Pats win because of Steven Ridley, Pats win because of LaGarrette Blount, Chip Kelly is better than Andy Reid, Eagles defense was better than the Giants Super Bowl winning defense, continuing obsessions with taunting 2 time Super Bowl MVP Eli Manning, and possibly best of all, Jimmy Fallon should have stopped Trump's campaign by asking him tough questions.  that's just off the top of my head. so either the name fits or you are the funniest comedian since George Carlin died.  now deny deny deny....and have a good night
    Post edited by pjhawks on
  • The Juggler
    The Juggler Posts: 49,598
    edited December 2017
    pjhawks said:
    pjhawks said:
    pjhawks said:
    pjhawks said:
    pjhawks said:
    ^
    21 running plays called in the entire game. Would you like to guess how many of them were called during their only sustained drive that resulted in their only touchdown of the game?

    NINE.

    Nine runs and two passes on their only offensive touchdown scoring drive of the entire game. Almost half of their entire runs in the game on this one drive. N.I.N.E. T.I.M.E.S they ran the ball. 11 plays. 58 yards. Chews up 6 minutes and and 16 seconds of clock. This is the only drive of the game they even resembled the offense we're accustomed to this year. The rest of the game? 11 runs total. Not going to work like that in January. 

    Clement got two carries and averaged 7 yards a rush. Ajayi is and has always been a volume back. He needs more than just 14 carries a game to be effective. Cold windy night with Folks playing like garbage and the receivers not getting open, this is the kind of game you call 38 runs and 21 passes, not the other way around. Gotta be smarter than that against much better teams next month. 



    Stick to your shitty St Joes basketball team, 'Takes.
    ah when you lose the argument change the argument.  Literally the first line you posted was about the percentages of runs to pass. I proved it was bullshit based on the two end of half drives so now you change the argument. Next time lead with the scoring drive that had 9 runs.

    i will stick with my Hawks as I always do.  Looking forward to conference play. 
    Oh you're under the assumption this is an argument? That's why you're confused. This isn't an argument. This is one informed fan explaining something to an uninformed person. 

    They passed the ball too much on a night when the conditions were bad and the back up quarterback was struggling and the receivers were not getting open. Regarding percentages, I put it in bold. I said I would have rather ran 38 times and thrown 21 times. So I don't know what you're talking about, unless you just chose to ignore that part of my post.

    Also, as I and others have tried to explain to you countless times over the years, it's not just how many times but WHEN you run. When almost half of your runs come on the only successful drive of the game, logic dictates that it's working and you might want to stick with it. They didn't and almost lost to a bad team who had nothing to play for.

    And I ignored your little idea of removing pass plays from two drives thing because it's......just a sorry and pathetic way of manipulating numbers to convey an illogical point. If you're going to remove the two largest passing drives, it would make sense to also remove the two largest running drives to get a fairer idea of what happened during the rest of the game. So remove the 9 from their only successful drive and 3 from the following drive (yes 3 was the next highest number). So you're left with 23 passes and 9 runs......oh, hey, look at that. Passing on a 71% clip. Gotta be better than that next month.



    Get lost, 'Takes. You're just no good at this.


    you just don't understand today's NFL if you think running the ball 60% of more of the time is a way to win.  some facts below...

    only 1 team in over a decade has run the ball even 50% of the time during their season and has won a Super Bowl. The 2013/2014 Seahawks who had a historically good defense. And you want this Eagles team to run something like 65% of the time? Utterly fucking absurd.

    only 3 teams in the current playoff race are with 1 percentage point of running it 50% of the time..and you want the Eagles to run it 65% of the time?  again utterly fucking absurd.




    ONE game, you dummy. We're talking about this week's game with a struggling back up quarterback in cold windy conditions when his receivers could not get open. And I see you have nothing to combat what I said in my last post so you provide bogus, incomplete stats yet again.

    Hey, look at this! Here's all of the first place teams and their run pass ratios for clarity:

    TEAM:   PASS/RUN
    PATS:         57/43 
    PITT:           57/43
    JAGS:         49/51
    CHIEFS:     57/43
    EAGLES:    53/47
    VIKINGS:    52/48
    SAINTS:     55/45
    RAMS:        53/47

    AVG: 54/46.  ----right where I've always suggested winning teams should be. They're actually running more this year than in the last few. You'll notice that the Eagles, who have the best record in the league have a 53/47 ratio. So passing it 65% of the time, with all the other factors I've mentioned, isn't quite the best recipe for their success.

    And I know it's shocking to you, but some games dictate that you should run more than pass. Sunday night was one of those nights.

    You have nothing. You always have nothing. 

    edit: eh you're not worth it.  have a good day and life.
    Better luck next time. 
    don't need luck when you have facts. 

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pc0mxOXbWIU&has_verified=1



    When presented with the facts, you said “eh you’re not worth it have a nice day.”

    Here’s a free tip. If you’re point of view is flimsy, incoherrent, and full of holes, don’t lead off by calling the other person an idiot. 
    you are an idiot. i mean 8-8 will win division, Eagles should run the ball 65% of the time, Chip Kelly is revolutionizing the game, Dakota Tebow, Pats win because of Steven Ridley, Pats win because of LaGarrette Blount, Chip Kelly is better than Andy Reid, Eagles defense was better than the Giants Super Bowl winning defense, continuing obsessions with taunting 2 time Super Bowl MVP Eli Manning, and possibly best of all, Jimmy Fallon should have stopped Trump's campaign by asking him tough questions.  that's just off the top of my head. so either the name fits or you are the funniest comedian since George Carlin died.  now deny deny deny....and have a good night
    I think pjhawks is broken.



    Post edited by The Juggler on
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