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JK_Livin

Also, with Clay Matthews banged up, I would've run the ball at him on every play.

The Juggler

JK_Livin said:

Also, with Clay Matthews banged up, I would've run the ball at him on every play.

Stop making so much sense.

The Juggler

^
By the way, Barbre's block on him was the best moment of that entire game. Absolutely destroyed him

eeriepadave

The Juggler said:

JK_Livin said:

Also, with Clay Matthews banged up, I would've run the ball at him on every play.

Stop making so much sense.

JK_Livin

And now he's crying about the hit when he's done the same to other players.

RiotZact

JK_Livin said:

And now he's crying about the hit when he's done the same to other players.

And he admitted to as much, the difference being a 15 yard penalty and a hefty fine waiting for him in his locker the next day.

JK_Livin

Except this was a clean block to his shoulder not a launching to a qb's head. He has a chance to make the tackle for fucks sake.

If it was no where near the play then it's unnecessary but it wasn't.

The Juggler

So John Harbaugh, and Ozzie Newsome, might be on the hot if the Ravens falter down the stretch?

Hmmmmm

Jearlpam0925

The Juggler said:

So John Harbaugh, and Ozzie Newsome, might be on the hot if the Ravens falter down the stretch?

Hmmmmm

But where does Newsome go? Howie's not going anywhere, and I don't think he'd take orders from Ozzie above him in a higher role either right?

And I don't think they dump Doug yet. I think not being perceived as an impatient organization means something to Lurie. Stepping away and looking from above = first season as a head coach, won 5 games in his first year with a couple more to come, I don't think he does anything impulsive. Chip realllllly pissed him off, and that's about the only thing it would take to get rid of Doug this early. We're getting at least one more year of Milquetoast Doug, most likely two.

pjhawks

Jearlpam0925 said:

The Juggler said:

So John Harbaugh, and Ozzie Newsome, might be on the hot if the Ravens falter down the stretch?

Hmmmmm

But where does Newsome go? Howie's not going anywhere, and I don't think he'd take orders from Ozzie above him in a higher role either right?

And I don't think they dump Doug yet. I think not being perceived as an impatient organization means something to Lurie. Stepping away and looking from above = first season as a head coach, won 5 games in his first year with a couple more to come, I don't think he does anything impulsive. Chip realllllly pissed him off, and that's about the only thing it would take to get rid of Doug this early. We're getting at least one more year of Milquetoast Doug, most likely two.

what does this even mean? you really think he is going anywhere anytime soon? short of a 3-win season in the next two years he is here for the long haul. Him and Wentz are going to be tied together like Reid and McNabb. buckle up and enjoy it.

RiotZact

JK_Livin said:

Except this was a clean block to his shoulder not a launching to a qb's head. He has a chance to make the tackle for fucks sake.

If it was no where near the play then it's unnecessary but it wasn't.

I feel you, I'm a Packers fan and I get pissed fairly often at some of the things Clay does (and not just when they're flagged), I'm by no means advocating for them. However all I heard Clay say was that it was a cheap shot, and it was.

I'm of the mindset that football is about scoring or stopping other people from scoring, he could have stopped Clay from making that tackle about 20 other less violent ways with the same exact result. And it's not like hitting a QB in hopes of spooking him for future downs, if anything you're just gonna piss him off and make him play harder.

I'm not mad about it or anything, I'm just calling a spade a spade. Legal or not, deserved or not, it was a cheap shot.

pjhawks

RiotZact said:

JK_Livin said:

Except this was a clean block to his shoulder not a launching to a qb's head. He has a chance to make the tackle for fucks sake.

If it was no where near the play then it's unnecessary but it wasn't.

I feel you, I'm a Packers fan and I get pissed fairly often at some of the things Clay does (and not just when they're flagged), I'm by no means advocating for them. However all I heard Clay say was that it was a cheap shot, and it was.

I'm of the mindset that football is about scoring or stopping other people from scoring, he could have stopped Clay from making that tackle about 20 other less violent ways with the same exact result. And it's not like hitting a QB in hopes of spooking him for future downs, if anything you're just gonna piss him off and make him play harder.

I'm not mad about it or anything, I'm just calling a spade a spade. Legal or not, deserved or not, it was a cheap shot.

how was it cheap? how was he supposed to block him without hitting him like that? if he doesn't hit him like that Matthews makes the play. c

Jearlpam0925

pjhawks said:

Jearlpam0925 said:

The Juggler said:

So John Harbaugh, and Ozzie Newsome, might be on the hot if the Ravens falter down the stretch?

Hmmmmm

But where does Newsome go? Howie's not going anywhere, and I don't think he'd take orders from Ozzie above him in a higher role either right?

And I don't think they dump Doug yet. I think not being perceived as an impatient organization means something to Lurie. Stepping away and looking from above = first season as a head coach, won 5 games in his first year with a couple more to come, I don't think he does anything impulsive. Chip realllllly pissed him off, and that's about the only thing it would take to get rid of Doug this early. We're getting at least one more year of Milquetoast Doug, most likely two.

what does this even mean? you really think he is going anywhere anytime soon? short of a 3-win season in the next two years he is here for the long haul. Him and Wentz are going to be tied together like Reid and McNabb. buckle up and enjoy it.

Is comprehension a problem? What do you mean what do I mean? They are not tied like Reid and McNabb. I don't know how another year, possibly two, is a means of getting rid of him early. They are not Reid and McNabb - this is an assumption on your part because you expect 10, 11 win-seasons to come. That would be revisionist history. If that happens of course they'll be tied like Reid and McNabb, and if that happens - and we do get anything even remotely close to Reid & McNabb - then I'll be a happy guy. Other than the vacuum you sit in and shout at everyone as if they're Reid/McNabb haters and/or are spawned from sports radio (which is ironic here because I don't think you realize how your tone and purpose comes off in this vein) then A) everyone else doesn't take you seriously & B ) people like me do not need to give you a response (which I usually do not).

I just explained to Juggs here why they wouldn't get rid of either Roseman, and Doug, yet you're ready with your dumb take on things. So if anything my comments were directed towards him, not you, thanks.

Just as Lurie was willing to let Doug and Roseman gamble on the drafting Wentz by selling a ton of picks to build a foundation, he understands the patience to evaluate once Doug/Roseman are given time to build around the QB with picks & free agents in the future.

Furthermore, we see the physical and mental ability from Wentz to be a good-to-great QB under any head coach. Nothing about Doug so far has shown me when you make that statement if you reversed it - though I'll admit he's been very good at adjusting at halftime, but a lot more is left to be questioned. Which is EXACTLY why he'll get , most likely, two more seasons to expand/improve upon what we already doubt.

JK_Livin

RiotZact said:

JK_Livin said:

Except this was a clean block to his shoulder not a launching to a qb's head. He has a chance to make the tackle for fucks sake.

If it was no where near the play then it's unnecessary but it wasn't.

I feel you, I'm a Packers fan and I get pissed fairly often at some of the things Clay does (and not just when they're flagged), I'm by no means advocating for them. However all I heard Clay say was that it was a cheap shot, and it was.

I'm of the mindset that football is about scoring or stopping other people from scoring, he could have stopped Clay from making that tackle about 20 other less violent ways with the same exact result. And it's not like hitting a QB in hopes of spooking him for future downs, if anything you're just gonna piss him off and make him play harder.

I'm not mad about it or anything, I'm just calling a spade a spade. Legal or not, deserved or not, it was a cheap shot.

I completely agree with you about the way it was done. There of plenty of hits like that every week where all a guy has to do is get in another players way instead of laying him out. Crazy that the players don't realize this yet just like celebrating by headbutting each other constantly. Could've been unnecessary roughness but it was so close to the ball I think you have to let that go.

RiotZact

pjhawks said:

RiotZact said:

JK_Livin said:

Except this was a clean block to his shoulder not a launching to a qb's head. He has a chance to make the tackle for fucks sake.

If it was no where near the play then it's unnecessary but it wasn't.

I feel you, I'm a Packers fan and I get pissed fairly often at some of the things Clay does (and not just when they're flagged), I'm by no means advocating for them. However all I heard Clay say was that it was a cheap shot, and it was.

I'm of the mindset that football is about scoring or stopping other people from scoring, he could have stopped Clay from making that tackle about 20 other less violent ways with the same exact result. And it's not like hitting a QB in hopes of spooking him for future downs, if anything you're just gonna piss him off and make him play harder.

I'm not mad about it or anything, I'm just calling a spade a spade. Legal or not, deserved or not, it was a cheap shot.

how was it cheap? how was he supposed to block him without hitting him like that? if he doesn't hit him like that Matthews makes the play. c

JK_Livin said:

RiotZact said:

JK_Livin said:

Except this was a clean block to his shoulder not a launching to a qb's head. He has a chance to make the tackle for fucks sake.

If it was no where near the play then it's unnecessary but it wasn't.

I feel you, I'm a Packers fan and I get pissed fairly often at some of the things Clay does (and not just when they're flagged), I'm by no means advocating for them. However all I heard Clay say was that it was a cheap shot, and it was.

I'm of the mindset that football is about scoring or stopping other people from scoring, he could have stopped Clay from making that tackle about 20 other less violent ways with the same exact result. And it's not like hitting a QB in hopes of spooking him for future downs, if anything you're just gonna piss him off and make him play harder.

I'm not mad about it or anything, I'm just calling a spade a spade. Legal or not, deserved or not, it was a cheap shot.

There of plenty of hits like that every week where all a guy has to do is get in another players way instead of laying him out.

RiotZact

JK_Livin said:

RiotZact said:

JK_Livin said:

Except this was a clean block to his shoulder not a launching to a qb's head. He has a chance to make the tackle for fucks sake.

If it was no where near the play then it's unnecessary but it wasn't.

I feel you, I'm a Packers fan and I get pissed fairly often at some of the things Clay does (and not just when they're flagged), I'm by no means advocating for them. However all I heard Clay say was that it was a cheap shot, and it was.

I'm of the mindset that football is about scoring or stopping other people from scoring, he could have stopped Clay from making that tackle about 20 other less violent ways with the same exact result. And it's not like hitting a QB in hopes of spooking him for future downs, if anything you're just gonna piss him off and make him play harder.

I'm not mad about it or anything, I'm just calling a spade a spade. Legal or not, deserved or not, it was a cheap shot.

I completely agree with you about the way it was done. There of plenty of hits like that every week where all a guy has to do is get in another players way instead of laying him out. Crazy that the players don't realize this yet just like celebrating by headbutting each other constantly. Could've been unnecessary roughness but it was so close to the ball I think you have to let that go.

Yeah I have no problem with the no call.

pjhawks

Jearlpam0925 said:

pjhawks said:

Jearlpam0925 said:

The Juggler said:

So John Harbaugh, and Ozzie Newsome, might be on the hot if the Ravens falter down the stretch?

Hmmmmm

But where does Newsome go? Howie's not going anywhere, and I don't think he'd take orders from Ozzie above him in a higher role either right?

And I don't think they dump Doug yet. I think not being perceived as an impatient organization means something to Lurie. Stepping away and looking from above = first season as a head coach, won 5 games in his first year with a couple more to come, I don't think he does anything impulsive. Chip realllllly pissed him off, and that's about the only thing it would take to get rid of Doug this early. We're getting at least one more year of Milquetoast Doug, most likely two.

what does this even mean? you really think he is going anywhere anytime soon? short of a 3-win season in the next two years he is here for the long haul. Him and Wentz are going to be tied together like Reid and McNabb. buckle up and enjoy it.

Is comprehension a problem? What do you mean what do I mean? They are not tied like Reid and McNabb. I don't know how another year, possibly two, is a means of getting rid of him early. They are not Reid and McNabb - this is an assumption on your part because you expect 10, 11 win-seasons to come. That would be revisionist history. If that happens of course they'll be tied like Reid and McNabb, and if that happens - and we do get anything even remotely close to Reid & McNabb - then I'll be a happy guy. Other than the vacuum you sit in and shout at everyone as if they're Reid/McNabb haters and/or are spawned from sports radio (which is ironic here because I don't think you realize how your tone and purpose comes off in this vein) then A) everyone else doesn't take you seriously & B ) people like me do not need to give you a response (which I usually do not).

I just explained to Juggs here why they wouldn't get rid of either Roseman, and Doug, yet you're ready with your dumb take on things. So if anything my comments were directed towards him, not you, thanks.

Just as Lurie was willing to let Doug and Roseman gamble on the drafting Wentz by selling a ton of picks to build a foundation, he understands the patience to evaluate once Doug/Roseman are given time to build around the QB with picks & free agents in the future.

Furthermore, we see the physical and mental ability from Wentz to be a good-to-great QB under any head coach. Nothing about Doug so far has shown me when you make that statement if you reversed it - though I'll admit he's been very good at adjusting at halftime, but a lot more is left to be questioned. Which is EXACTLY why he'll get , most likely, two more seasons to expand/improve upon what we already doubt.

when you make a comment like 'we are getting one more year at least and take a personal shot at the coach' it sure seems like your advocating him not being around does it not?

and what's up with calling people names? are we like 14 still? i mean bad enough you said a guy getting cancer might be a good thing for the Phillies now you have to make a reference to the Eagles coach? is it so hard to be an adult and call him by his name? jeez

The Juggler

Jearlpam0925 said:

The Juggler said:

So John Harbaugh, and Ozzie Newsome, might be on the hot if the Ravens falter down the stretch?

Hmmmmm

But where does Newsome go? Howie's not going anywhere, and I don't think he'd take orders from Ozzie above him in a higher role either right?

And I don't think they dump Doug yet. I think not being perceived as an impatient organization means something to Lurie. Stepping away and looking from above = first season as a head coach, won 5 games in his first year with a couple more to come, I don't think he does anything impulsive. Chip realllllly pissed him off, and that's about the only thing it would take to get rid of Doug this early. We're getting at least one more year of Milquetoast Doug, most likely two.

Yeah you're right. I mean it's a pipe dream that has about a .05% chance of happening. Just seems like Ederson is in over his head and if there's a chance to make a huge upgrade like this I'd love for it to happen but, alas, it's not...

eeriepadave

eeriepadave said:

Least we play Green Bay Cincinnati this weekend, should win that game.

pjhawks

The Juggler said:

Jearlpam0925 said:

The Juggler said:

So John Harbaugh, and Ozzie Newsome, might be on the hot if the Ravens falter down the stretch?

Hmmmmm

But where does Newsome go? Howie's not going anywhere, and I don't think he'd take orders from Ozzie above him in a higher role either right?

And I don't think they dump Doug yet. I think not being perceived as an impatient organization means something to Lurie. Stepping away and looking from above = first season as a head coach, won 5 games in his first year with a couple more to come, I don't think he does anything impulsive. Chip realllllly pissed him off, and that's about the only thing it would take to get rid of Doug this early. We're getting at least one more year of Milquetoast Doug, most likely two.

Yeah you're right. I mean it's a pipe dream that has about a .05% chance of happening. Just seems like Ederson is in over his head and if there's a chance to make a huge upgrade like this I'd love for it to happen but, alas, it's not...

so you predicted a 5 or 6 win season with a veteran QB expected to start. with a rookie qb, 2nd best lineman out for 10 games, and after the 1st two games a brutal schedule yet they are 5-6 and the coach is in over his head? well all righty then. let's hope your track record on eagles coaches stays in tact though. the last one you thought was revolutionizing the game right? i wonder how the grass looks now that the players are allowed to walk on it again at practice.