Canada's founding!!

fear4freedomfear4freedom Posts: 920
edited January 2013 in A Moving Train
Im just wondering what the difference is between the Evil USA and Canada's foundings? Can you please explain what makes Canada's a genuine founding, and the Evil USA's evil?

Cause Im seeing Canada being founded by the French before the other white people came to the USA! And Im pretty sure it wasnt all Tea parties! :D

I also know that Russia and China did very bad things! I know that many current nations today were founded and created on things that arent so good! :evil:

Austraila's founding and early days are so pretty either! LOL 8-)8-)

So can anyone give me a good story of their founding? A founding that didnt have rape and pillage, war, slavery, imperialism, etc. Can you? Im just curious..... :?:
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  • "...Dimitri...He talks to me...'.."The Ghost of Greece..".
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  • dignindignin Posts: 9,336

    I actually listened to that for over 30 seconds.
  • dignin wrote:

    I actually listened to that for over 30 seconds.
    i didnt ..but fits to the whole
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  • This should help although it's probably more information than you would ever want on a country that isn't the United States.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ksYSCWpFKBo
  • This should help although it's probably more information than you would ever want on a country that isn't the United States.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ksYSCWpFKBo

    Good honest content that is against any nation other than the USA is hard to come by on the train! Thanks for this input! Hope to get some other good answers this month!
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  • ZosoZoso Posts: 6,425
    I'm not sure what thread or comments you're referring to..

    I always called Australia's 'founding' as an invasion as it's classified as an invasion now anyway...
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  • Zoso wrote:
    I'm not sure what thread or comments you're referring to..

    I always called Australia's 'founding' as an invasion as it's classified as an invasion now anyway...

    Just trying to help America out here on the train, as she get pounded and bashed every second of every day!
    Just trying to show that all nations have weary pasts....and the good ol USA isnt evil....human evolution and civilization was just ugly everywhere!
    Theres no time like the present

    A man that stands for nothing....will fall for anything!

    All people need to do more on every level!
  • ZosoZoso Posts: 6,425
    Zoso wrote:
    I'm not sure what thread or comments you're referring to..

    I always called Australia's 'founding' as an invasion as it's classified as an invasion now anyway...

    Just trying to help America out here on the train, as she get pounded and bashed every second of every day!
    Just trying to show that all nations have weary pasts....and the good ol USA isnt evil....human evolution and civilization was just ugly everywhere!

    no one has ever called the USA evil.. maybe it feels that way to you when ANYONE either American or from another country constructively criticize America.. look man no country is perfect and every country had improvement's to be made.
    I'm just flying around the other side of the world to say I love you

    Sha la la la i'm in love with a jersey girl

    I love you forever and forever :)

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  • Zoso wrote:
    Zoso wrote:
    I'm not sure what thread or comments you're referring to..

    I always called Australia's 'founding' as an invasion as it's classified as an invasion now anyway...

    Just trying to help America out here on the train, as she get pounded and bashed every second of every day!
    Just trying to show that all nations have weary pasts....and the good ol USA isnt evil....human evolution and civilization was just ugly everywhere!

    no one has ever called the USA evil.. maybe it feels that way to you when ANYONE either American or from another country constructively criticize America.. look man no country is perfect and every country had improvement's to be made.

    Thats a good honest answer with fairness. I like that tone cause it speaks from humility and honesty! The USA gets beat up here more than any other country by far. Im sorry, but maybe you dont notice. im still seeking a founding that was completely good and genuine!! I want people realize that America's founding is no worse than any others and through civility we have tried to change the course of human history for the betterment of mankind! It just seems that America and its founding principles get ZERO credit with just about everyone on the train!
    Theres no time like the present

    A man that stands for nothing....will fall for anything!

    All people need to do more on every level!
  • not many people "bash" the US for its founding. Canada and the US were founded on genocide and theft of land. there's no disputing that. and it's still going on.

    people bash the US, not as a nation, but as a government and its policies. and there are things very wrong with the culture (guns). but there are issues with all cultures. this just happens to be a website where most of members are american, so most of the discussion is going to revolve around american politics and affairs.

    if you want to toot the american horn, expect people to mute it.
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  • not many people "bash" the US for its founding. Canada and the US were founded on genocide and theft of land. there's no disputing that. and it's still going on.

    people bash the US, not as a nation, but as a government and its policies. and there are things very wrong with the culture (guns). but there are issues with all cultures. this just happens to be a website where most of members are american, so most of the discussion is going to revolve around american politics and affairs.

    if you want to toot the american horn, expect people to mute it.

    I was waiting for your answer! I like you Hughey! You seem very fair, curious, smart and empathetic! Your tones are that of fairness and you do bring up alot of good points in all your threads. I approach every thread with a new clear playing field and I dont carry feelings from one thread to another. I feel as if there are alot of anti-Americans who continually bash the USA unfairly. I try to find another country that is neutral, such as Canada and I try to find the good of it. I see that there arent many nations out there that have been good over the years. So I try to give the good ol USA a chance to help the world before judging them in a negative way. I dont see that from people here.....
    Theres no time like the present

    A man that stands for nothing....will fall for anything!

    All people need to do more on every level!
  • Thats a good honest answer with fairness. I like that tone cause it speaks from humility and honesty! The USA gets beat up here more than any other country by far. Im sorry, but maybe you dont notice. im still seeking a founding that was completely good and genuine!! I want people realize that America's founding is no worse than any others and through civility we have tried to change the course of human history for the betterment of mankind! It just seems that America and its founding principles get ZERO credit with just about everyone on the train!

    In fairness, not many people come on here singing the praises of other nations the way that a few of you Americans flaunt the greatness of the US. Not everybody thinks the US is some beacon of light that stands separate and above the rest of the world. Do you think the response would be different if somebody posted a long winded rant about the British Empire being god's gift to earth or if a Canadian started blathering on about the moral superiority of Canada?
  • Thats a good honest answer with fairness. I like that tone cause it speaks from humility and honesty! The USA gets beat up here more than any other country by far. Im sorry, but maybe you dont notice. im still seeking a founding that was completely good and genuine!! I want people realize that America's founding is no worse than any others and through civility we have tried to change the course of human history for the betterment of mankind! It just seems that America and its founding principles get ZERO credit with just about everyone on the train!

    In fairness, not many people come on here singing the praises of other nations the way that a few of you Americans flaunt the greatness of the US. Not everybody thinks the US is some beacon of light that stands separate and above the rest of the world. Do you think the response would be different if somebody posted a long winded rant about the British Empire being god's gift to earth or if a Canadian started blathering on about the moral superiority of Canada?

    +1
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  • Thats a good honest answer with fairness. I like that tone cause it speaks from humility and honesty! The USA gets beat up here more than any other country by far. Im sorry, but maybe you dont notice. im still seeking a founding that was completely good and genuine!! I want people realize that America's founding is no worse than any others and through civility we have tried to change the course of human history for the betterment of mankind! It just seems that America and its founding principles get ZERO credit with just about everyone on the train!

    In fairness, not many people come on here singing the praises of other nations the way that a few of you Americans flaunt the greatness of the US. Not everybody thinks the US is some beacon of light that stands separate and above the rest of the world. Do you think the response would be different if somebody posted a long winded rant about the British Empire being god's gift to earth or if a Canadian started blathering on about the moral superiority of Canada?

    This.
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  • I can empathize with all of you on that! However, dont it seem that all of you accept the critique more than the praises? Ill take a long break from the praise for you guys.....right now.... thanks for reading up on my threads!
    Theres no time like the present

    A man that stands for nothing....will fall for anything!

    All people need to do more on every level!
  • not many people "bash" the US for its founding. Canada and the US were founded on genocide and theft of land. there's no disputing that. and it's still going on.

    people bash the US, not as a nation, but as a government and its policies. and there are things very wrong with the culture (guns). but there are issues with all cultures. this just happens to be a website where most of members are american, so most of the discussion is going to revolve around american politics and affairs.

    if you want to toot the american horn, expect people to mute it.

    Had to say, very well written!!! :clap:
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  • Thats a good honest answer with fairness. I like that tone cause it speaks from humility and honesty! The USA gets beat up here more than any other country by far. Im sorry, but maybe you dont notice. im still seeking a founding that was completely good and genuine!! I want people realize that America's founding is no worse than any others and through civility we have tried to change the course of human history for the betterment of mankind! It just seems that America and its founding principles get ZERO credit with just about everyone on the train!

    In fairness, not many people come on here singing the praises of other nations the way that a few of you Americans flaunt the greatness of the US. Not everybody thinks the US is some beacon of light that stands separate and above the rest of the world. Do you think the response would be different if somebody posted a long winded rant about the British Empire being god's gift to earth or if a Canadian started blathering on about the moral superiority of Canada?
    some of you just saying things so perfect!!!
    "...Dimitri...He talks to me...'.."The Ghost of Greece..".
    "..That's One Happy Fuckin Ghost.."
    “..That came up on the Pillow Case...This is for the Greek, With Our Apologies.....”
  • vomikus39 wrote:
    not many people "bash" the US for its founding. Canada and the US were founded on genocide and theft of land. there's no disputing that. and it's still going on.

    people bash the US, not as a nation, but as a government and its policies. and there are things very wrong with the culture (guns). but there are issues with all cultures. this just happens to be a website where most of members are american, so most of the discussion is going to revolve around american politics and affairs.

    if you want to toot the american horn, expect people to mute it.

    Had to say, very well written!!! :clap:
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  • I'm stuck about being prouder of the "theft of the land" or the fact that they could sail that far in the first place.

    But in the end if it meant so much to so many people, they wouldn't want to come here to live nowadays.

    The poison from the poison stream caught up to you ELEVEN years ago and you floated out of here. Sept. 14, 08

  • If the USA wasnt founded, discovered and stolen by the English white men, then dont you think that Hitler, Japan, or Mao, or some other dictator, would have come in later and did worse? At least we turned it into something worthwhile!
    Theres no time like the present

    A man that stands for nothing....will fall for anything!

    All people need to do more on every level!
  • If the USA wasnt founded, discovered and stolen by the English white men, then dont you think that Hitler, Japan, or Mao, or some other dictator, would have come in later and did worse? At least we turned it into something worthwhile!
    i need to ask...really..about history..
    did u llearn this things,at school,?a university??..
    i mean..you must read them somewhere,right?
    "...Dimitri...He talks to me...'.."The Ghost of Greece..".
    "..That's One Happy Fuckin Ghost.."
    “..That came up on the Pillow Case...This is for the Greek, With Our Apologies.....”
  • If the USA wasnt founded, discovered and stolen by the English white men, then dont you think that Hitler, Japan, or Mao, or some other dictator, would have come in later and did worse? At least we turned it into something worthwhile!
    i need to ask...really..about history..
    did u llearn this things,at school,?a university??..
    i mean..you must read them somewhere,right?

    I asked a question in response to those who think we stole the land, and those who think our founding and Canada's founding were illegitimate! You dont have to read anything to ask questions of this nature, in response to the responses! Now if you asked me that question in a forum or thread where I specifically stated polices, positions and philosophy, then I may give you an answer that co-incides with your question!
    Theres no time like the present

    A man that stands for nothing....will fall for anything!

    All people need to do more on every level!
  • If the USA wasnt founded, discovered and stolen by the English white men, then dont you think that Hitler, Japan, or Mao, or some other dictator, would have come in later and did worse? At least we turned it into something worthwhile!
    i need to ask...really..about history..
    did u llearn this things,at school,?a university??..
    i mean..you must read them somewhere,right?

    I asked a question in response to those who think we stole the land, and those who think our founding and Canada's founding were illegitimate! You dont have to read anything to ask questions of this nature, in response to the responses! Now if you asked me that question in a forum or thread where I specifically stated polices, positions and philosophy, then I may give you an answer that co-incides with your question!

    they were illegitimate. they weren't ever "founded". they were stolen from the inhabitants of the land. FACT.
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  • If the USA wasnt founded, discovered and stolen by the English white men, then dont you think that Hitler, Japan, or Mao, or some other dictator, would have come in later and did worse? At least we turned it into something worthwhile!

    so mild genocide is a good excuse for even worse and speculative genocide? gimme a break.
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  • If the USA wasnt founded, discovered and stolen by the English white men, then dont you think that Hitler, Japan, or Mao, or some other dictator, would have come in later and did worse? At least we turned it into something worthwhile!

    so mild genocide is a good excuse for even worse and speculative genocide? gimme a break.

    If the english and french never came over here.....someone else would have! FACT!

    Do you think the entire contintent belongs to a few hundred thousand Natives? Why can we migrate here....just like everyone else is now? Eventually, we would have migrated here....with civility.....
    Theres no time like the present

    A man that stands for nothing....will fall for anything!

    All people need to do more on every level!
  • If the USA wasnt founded, discovered and stolen by the English white men, then dont you think that Hitler, Japan, or Mao, or some other dictator, would have come in later and did worse? At least we turned it into something worthwhile!

    so mild genocide is a good excuse for even worse and speculative genocide? gimme a break.

    If the english and french never came over here.....someone else would have! FACT!

    Do you think the entire contintent belongs to a few hundred thousand Natives? Why can we migrate here....just like everyone else is now? Eventually, we would have migrated here....with civility.....

    just because someone else would have come here eventually, doesn't excuse slaughtering the inhabitants and stealing their land from them. how can you possibly justify this?
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  • ]

    so mild genocide is a good excuse for even worse and speculative genocide? gimme a break.[/quote]

    If the english and french never came over here.....someone else would have! FACT!

    Do you think the entire contintent belongs to a few hundred thousand Natives? Why can we migrate here....just like everyone else is now? Eventually, we would have migrated here....with civility.....[/quote]

    just because someone else would have come here eventually, doesn't excuse slaughtering the inhabitants and stealing their land from them. how can you possibly justify this?[/quote]

    I never justified anything! I simply said that if the English and French didnt come .....others would have! Thats all!
    Theres no time like the present

    A man that stands for nothing....will fall for anything!

    All people need to do more on every level!

  • Do you think the entire contintent belongs to a few hundred thousand Natives? Why can we migrate here....just like everyone else is now? Eventually, we would have migrated here....with civility.....

    well you seem to think that the entire continent now belongs to the american/canadian. relatively speaking, with world populations increasing, how is this different? how was this NOT their nation, even though they didn't have a formed government? would it be ok if the far eastern man came and migrated here and slaughtered your loved ones and took your house?
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  • I never justified anything! I simply said that if the English and French didnt come .....others would have! Thats all!

    actually, you said

    fear4freedom wrote:If the USA wasnt founded, discovered and stolen by the English white men, then dont you think that Hitler, Japan, or Mao, or some other dictator, would have come in later and did worse? At least we turned it into something worthwhile!

    that's justifying. look it up.
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  • I never justified anything! I simply said that if the English and French didnt come .....others would have! Thats all!

    actually, you said

    fear4freedom wrote:If the USA wasnt founded, discovered and stolen by the English white men, then dont you think that Hitler, Japan, or Mao, or some other dictator, would have come in later and did worse? At least we turned it into something worthwhile!

    that's justifying. look it up.

    All I did there was ask you a question of your opinion! See the question mark? How can a question of your opinion be considered justifying genocide? Are you trying to turn things around in your favor?
    Theres no time like the present

    A man that stands for nothing....will fall for anything!

    All people need to do more on every level!
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