Misplaced priorities.

brianlux

I can't believe I'm starting yet another thread about guns, but a thought occurred to me. Let be back track by saying that as much as I don't like guns- if I were a god I would make them all disappear- I don't believe we will ever get rid of them. I will even go so far as to say that I know people I respect- some I love even- who are gun owners but they are the kind of people whose first thoughts about guns are for safety and responsibility.

What I believe is that there are far to many gun enthusiasts who have their priorities mixed up. Their first thoughts (at least as far as I can tell from their words) are for their "right" to own guns, any kind of gun, even guns meant only for killing large numbers of people as quickly as possible. In light of the increased violence in America I would think their first words out would be about safety and responsibility and I would think they would at least see the logic in banning assault and other extreme forms of weapons that are intended only for use in quickly killing large numbers of people . In my opinion, if guns enthusiasts can't get their priorities straight, if they aren't even willing to make reasonable compromises, they deserve to lose them- all of them. And good riddance to them!

whgarrett

Misplaced priorities? I would say that guns are just another tool vital to controlling the population. The thought that guns are a problem because they hurt human lives is quite self centered and small minded. Look at what humans have done to the Earth. Just by multiplying. We are so damn ego centric that we think more of us should live. We are a cancer that destroys. Nothing more. We have never improved the Earth except to try and fix something we have already damaged. All we do is try to "improve" our lives and in doing so have moved farther away from nature and balance. Death, War, Guns, Famine, Disease. These are necessary things......Wow, I'm one sick F$%&^K

Jeanwah

brianlux wrote:

In my opinion, if guns enthusiasts can't get their priorities straight, if they aren't even willing to make reasonable compromises, they deserve to lose them- all of them. And good riddance to them!

I agree, Brian. Gun enthusiasts are generally quite selfish and only think of them and thier weapons (not every gun owner, but everyone who is arguing in support of keeping their guns and "their rights" tend to very much be looking out solely for themselves). That's where their priorities are, not in safety, not in anyone else, but themselves and their firearms.

Don't worry, there will have to be some common ground be made even if Congress wants to act like babies and cry if each and every one of them doesn't get their way. Gun enthusiasts are much like the politicians in congress.

stuckinline

http://news.yahoo.com/petition-deport-p ... itics.html

A petition asking President Obama to deport CNN anchor Piers Morgan gathered more than 33,000 signatures in just three days.
The petition on the White House's "We the People" website posted Friday has crossed the 25,000 threshold needed to solicit a response from President Obama. But unlike the petitions to reduce gun violence that Obama addressed last week, this one isn't likely to receive a favorable response.
The petition takes aim at Morgan for his impassioned defense of proposed gun control legislation on air this week. It accuses him of launching "a hostile attack against the U.S. Constitution by targeting the Second Amendment."
But according to immigration attorney Mark Schifanelli, it would take more than expressing an opinion on television to get Morgan booted out of the country.
The Department of Homeland Security would have the power to start a deportation process on Morgan if it was warranted, Schifanelli said, but even then, there's no guarantee Morgan wouldn't win the right to stay in an appeals process.
"He's got certain rights," Schifanelli told ABC News Monday. "Even as a foreign national in the United States, he's afforded various rights under national security law and due process."
What's more, Morgan's supposed attack on the Second Amendment is likely protected by the First Amendment. His speech would have to present "immediate danger" in order to break the law. Schifanelli said it's unlikely Morgan's defense of gun restrictions would meet that requirement.
But perhaps the best reason the president wouldn't deport Morgan for advocating stricter gun laws on television is that he would be guilty of the same crime.
In a televised address on Wednesday, President Obama expressed support for Sen. Dianne Feinstein's assault weapons ban and urged Congress to take "meaningful action" to prevent further gun violence.
The petition against Morgan isn't the first wacky request to receive substantial support. A bid for Texas to secede from the union and form an independent nation has received 121,784 electronic signatures and is still waiting for a White House response.

Hugh Freaking Dillon

stuckinline wrote:

http://news.yahoo.com/petition-deport-piers-morgan-gains-internet-fame-172137814--abc-news-politics.html

A petition asking President Obama to deport CNN anchor Piers Morgan gathered more than 33,000 signatures in just three days.
The petition on the White House's "We the People" website posted Friday has crossed the 25,000 threshold needed to solicit a response from President Obama. But unlike the petitions to reduce gun violence that Obama addressed last week, this one isn't likely to receive a favorable response.
The petition takes aim at Morgan for his impassioned defense of proposed gun control legislation on air this week. It accuses him of launching "a hostile attack against the U.S. Constitution by targeting the Second Amendment."
But according to immigration attorney Mark Schifanelli, it would take more than expressing an opinion on television to get Morgan booted out of the country.
The Department of Homeland Security would have the power to start a deportation process on Morgan if it was warranted, Schifanelli said, but even then, there's no guarantee Morgan wouldn't win the right to stay in an appeals process.
"He's got certain rights," Schifanelli told ABC News Monday. "Even as a foreign national in the United States, he's afforded various rights under national security law and due process."
What's more, Morgan's supposed attack on the Second Amendment is likely protected by the First Amendment. His speech would have to present "immediate danger" in order to break the law. Schifanelli said it's unlikely Morgan's defense of gun restrictions would meet that requirement.
But perhaps the best reason the president wouldn't deport Morgan for advocating stricter gun laws on television is that he would be guilty of the same crime.
In a televised address on Wednesday, President Obama expressed support for Sen. Dianne Feinstein's assault weapons ban and urged Congress to take "meaningful action" to prevent further gun violence.
The petition against Morgan isn't the first wacky request to receive substantial support. A bid for Texas to secede from the union and form an independent nation has received 121,784 electronic signatures and is still waiting for a White House response.

so the arms bearers are getting worried, are they?

peacefrompaul

stuckinline wrote:

http://news.yahoo.com/petition-deport-piers-morgan-gains-internet-fame-172137814--abc-news-politics.html

A petition asking President Obama to deport CNN anchor Piers Morgan gathered more than 33,000 signatures in just three days.
The petition on the White House's "We the People" website posted Friday has crossed the 25,000 threshold needed to solicit a response from President Obama. But unlike the petitions to reduce gun violence that Obama addressed last week, this one isn't likely to receive a favorable response.
The petition takes aim at Morgan for his impassioned defense of proposed gun control legislation on air this week. It accuses him of launching "a hostile attack against the U.S. Constitution by targeting the Second Amendment."
But according to immigration attorney Mark Schifanelli, it would take more than expressing an opinion on television to get Morgan booted out of the country.
The Department of Homeland Security would have the power to start a deportation process on Morgan if it was warranted, Schifanelli said, but even then, there's no guarantee Morgan wouldn't win the right to stay in an appeals process.
"He's got certain rights," Schifanelli told ABC News Monday. "Even as a foreign national in the United States, he's afforded various rights under national security law and due process."
What's more, Morgan's supposed attack on the Second Amendment is likely protected by the First Amendment. His speech would have to present "immediate danger" in order to break the law. Schifanelli said it's unlikely Morgan's defense of gun restrictions would meet that requirement.
But perhaps the best reason the president wouldn't deport Morgan for advocating stricter gun laws on television is that he would be guilty of the same crime.
In a televised address on Wednesday, President Obama expressed support for Sen. Dianne Feinstein's assault weapons ban and urged Congress to take "meaningful action" to prevent further gun violence.
The petition against Morgan isn't the first wacky request to receive substantial support. A bid for Texas to secede from the union and form an independent nation has received 121,784 electronic signatures and is still waiting for a White House response.

It's his right to attack it if he so chooses... I think the guy gives some pretty damn good interviews.