Christmas on a 1-10 Scale of Dumbness
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Yeah, no children and no bias. Guess we dig these things on our own terms and within our own lifelines.
And really it's not even about the day itself for me. Just the whole wide-open window of it all before it closes. I need to - and should - breathe it in and enjoy it while it's here.
Smellyman, enjoy your trip to Thailand. I've heard it's beautiful in many ways.0 -
Christmas is magic, embrace it
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How so?jnimhaoileoin said:Christmas is magic, embrace it
Been there many times and always great.hedonist said:
Smellyman, enjoy your trip to Thailand. I've heard it's beautiful in many ways.
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I love Christmas.
Holidays. Festivities.
I get the mass consumerism aspect to it, but my family loves it and so do I. I spend enough time of the year being a curmudgeon. Christmas puts me in a good place.
Eat, drink and be merry, for tomorrow we die.
* Visited Pearl Harbor for the first time yesterday. A very somber experience. The Arizona is still leaking oil- you can see it leaking oil-"My brain's a good brain!"0 -
I actually kind of envy that...Thirty Bills Unpaid said:I love Christmas.
Holidays. Festivities.
...but that's the main thing that blows it for me...Thirty Bills Unpaid said:I get the mass consumerism aspect to it, but my family loves it and so do I. I spend enough time of the year being a curmudgeon. Christmas puts me in a good place.
...although I can definitely get into that!Thirty Bills Unpaid said:Eat, drink and be merry, for tomorrow we die.
By I almost wonder if by now they've got a little pipe line that goes down there with oil pumping through it to keep the tourists coming back. I saw that same oil leak back in around 1964. Kind of freaked me our standing on that platform over that sunken ship.Thirty Bills Unpaid said:* Visited Pearl Harbor for the first time yesterday. A very somber experience. The Arizona is still leaking oil- you can see it leaking oil-
Christmas in Hawaii- what a trip! Are there Christmas lights on the palm trees? Hope you're having a good time, Thirty. Post some pics!
"It's a sad and beautiful world"-Roberto Benigni0 -
Christmas is a time when everyone is that little bit kinder and the world seems a little bit more hopeful. Families get together and everyone makes an extra effort to get on with each other. Say what you like about commercialism but I think the gift-giving aspect is lovely. It is what you make of it, I choose to view it as an opportunity to show my appreciation for the people in my lifeSmellyman said:
How so?jnimhaoileoin said:Christmas is magic, embrace it
Been there many times and always great.hedonist said:
Smellyman, enjoy your trip to Thailand. I've heard it's beautiful in many ways.
Christmas can be tough if you're lonely, I certainly understand that aspect of it but I feel the positives far outweigh the negatives.0 -
Cheers, Bri!brianlux said:
I actually kind of envy that...Thirty Bills Unpaid said:I love Christmas.
Holidays. Festivities.
...but that's the main thing that blows it for me...Thirty Bills Unpaid said:I get the mass consumerism aspect to it, but my family loves it and so do I. I spend enough time of the year being a curmudgeon. Christmas puts me in a good place.
...although I can definitely get into that!Thirty Bills Unpaid said:Eat, drink and be merry, for tomorrow we die.
By I almost wonder if by now they've got a little pipe line that goes down there with oil pumping through it to keep the tourists coming back. I saw that same oil leak back in around 1964. Kind of freaked me our standing on that platform over that sunken ship.Thirty Bills Unpaid said:* Visited Pearl Harbor for the first time yesterday. A very somber experience. The Arizona is still leaking oil- you can see it leaking oil-
Christmas in Hawaii- what a trip! Are there Christmas lights on the palm trees? Hope you're having a good time, Thirty. Post some pics!
I'm actually back to Canada on the 24th. I'm here coaching my basketball team."My brain's a good brain!"0 -
Cheers, Thirty!Thirty Bills Unpaid said:
Cheers, Bri!brianlux said:
I actually kind of envy that...Thirty Bills Unpaid said:I love Christmas.
Holidays. Festivities.
...but that's the main thing that blows it for me...Thirty Bills Unpaid said:I get the mass consumerism aspect to it, but my family loves it and so do I. I spend enough time of the year being a curmudgeon. Christmas puts me in a good place.
...although I can definitely get into that!Thirty Bills Unpaid said:Eat, drink and be merry, for tomorrow we die.
By I almost wonder if by now they've got a little pipe line that goes down there with oil pumping through it to keep the tourists coming back. I saw that same oil leak back in around 1964. Kind of freaked me our standing on that platform over that sunken ship.Thirty Bills Unpaid said:* Visited Pearl Harbor for the first time yesterday. A very somber experience. The Arizona is still leaking oil- you can see it leaking oil-
Christmas in Hawaii- what a trip! Are there Christmas lights on the palm trees? Hope you're having a good time, Thirty. Post some pics!
I'm actually back to Canada on the 24th. I'm here coaching my basketball team.
This evening we're going to our annual friends Christmas party. A few of us (myself included) think it's a better idea to just draw a name and get one gift for that person but the majority want us all to exchange presents which during a busy time of year gets to be difficult at the very least. But that part is done and so now the best part of this gathering will happen later today- being with friends. That, I can get into! I'm always up for getting together with good friends, good food and drink, and having a good time."It's a sad and beautiful world"-Roberto Benigni0 -
Hahaha not when you work retail in the Midwest of America. People are meaner and more selfish and rude than any other time of year!jnimhaoileoin said:
Christmas is a time when everyone is that little bit kinder and the world seems a little bit more hopeful. Families get together and everyone makes an extra effort to get on with each other. Say what you like about commercialism but I think the gift-giving aspect is lovely. It is what you make of it, I choose to view it as an opportunity to show my appreciation for the people in my lifeSmellyman said:
How so?jnimhaoileoin said:Christmas is magic, embrace it
Been there many times and always great.hedonist said:
Smellyman, enjoy your trip to Thailand. I've heard it's beautiful in many ways.
Christmas can be tough if you're lonely, I certainly understand that aspect of it but I feel the positives far outweigh the negatives.Monkey Driven, Call this Living?0 -
A hug to you from across the miles, Thirty. In a good place too, and thankful for it.Thirty Bills Unpaid said:I love Christmas.
Holidays. Festivities.
I get the mass consumerism aspect to it, but my family loves it and so do I. I spend enough time of the year being a curmudgeon. Christmas puts me in a good place.
Eat, drink and be merry, for tomorrow we die.
* Visited Pearl Harbor for the first time yesterday. A very somber experience. The Arizona is still leaking oil- you can see it leaking oil-0 -
And a big hug back to you, Hedo!hedonist said:
A hug to you from across the miles, Thirty. In a good place too, and thankful for it.Thirty Bills Unpaid said:I love Christmas.
Holidays. Festivities.
I get the mass consumerism aspect to it, but my family loves it and so do I. I spend enough time of the year being a curmudgeon. Christmas puts me in a good place.
Eat, drink and be merry, for tomorrow we die.
* Visited Pearl Harbor for the first time yesterday. A very somber experience. The Arizona is still leaking oil- you can see it leaking oil-
* I've gotten a few video texts from home- my cat is going nuts at home and amusing the hell out of me while I watch them here in Waikiki."My brain's a good brain!"0 -
yet you say you don't follow the traditions yet you admit above you give gifts...so in reality you do follow the same traditions as the rest of us, just in a way that satisfies your view of the world and makes YOU feel good about yourself as opposed to doing something to make others feel good. kind of misses the point of the whole season doesn't it?rgambs said:
Not at all, there's nothing that sucks about knowing and keeping close to your heart the things that really matter while you watch people who live their lives asleep rushing to and fro to honor traditions which they think little about and follow through rote devotion.pjhawks said:
it must suck going through life with such at attitude. lighten up Francis and learn to enjoy the things that don't need to be stressed or annoyed about.rgambs said:I hate Christmas. The endless, needless, inane trading of JUNK with social repercussions enforcing it as a dogmatic law is too much for me. I give everyone jars of jam, jelly, pickles, and salsa that I make in the summer...I think some people think I am a cheapskate, but I wish they would give me something wholesome instead of another damn hooded sweatshirt or knockoff PJ tshit.
What I hate the most is Santa.
Yeah, I am dead serious.
I think encouraging children to believe a little bit of magic exists in the world is a wonderful thing, but parents take it way too far. It becomes a a several-year active deception where the child is getting closer and closer to the truth and the parent comes up with more exotic lies and rouses to convince the child. Everyone knows someone who believed for too long and was shattered when someone finally told them Santa isn't real.
It's the dumbest fucking tradition we have in America, and if you tell people you aren't interested in actively deceiving your child for half a decade, they look at you like you are some kind of goofy, radical hippy or something.
Burns my balls.
Since I don't give a shit about indoctrinated commercialism and backwards rituals, I have less stress in the holidays than you, I'd bet my farm on it!0 -
I dont do it because of the holiday tradition, I do it because gift giving is a social contract that requires reciprocation, I fulfill my end of the contract in a way that satisfies my moral code. If someone doesn't feel good about handmade, shelf stable organic food made with love, that is a failing of the season, not me. I can tell you that it doesn't sit on a shelf year after year and accumulate dust or lie in a drawer like most Christmas gifts.pjhawks said:
yet you say you don't follow the traditions yet you admit above you give gifts...so in reality you do follow the same traditions as the rest of us, just in a way that satisfies your view of the world and makes YOU feel good about yourself as opposed to doing something to make others feel good. kind of misses the point of the whole season doesn't it?rgambs said:
Not at all, there's nothing that sucks about knowing and keeping close to your heart the things that really matter while you watch people who live their lives asleep rushing to and fro to honor traditions which they think little about and follow through rote devotion.pjhawks said:
it must suck going through life with such at attitude. lighten up Francis and learn to enjoy the things that don't need to be stressed or annoyed about.rgambs said:I hate Christmas. The endless, needless, inane trading of JUNK with social repercussions enforcing it as a dogmatic law is too much for me. I give everyone jars of jam, jelly, pickles, and salsa that I make in the summer...I think some people think I am a cheapskate, but I wish they would give me something wholesome instead of another damn hooded sweatshirt or knockoff PJ tshit.
What I hate the most is Santa.
Yeah, I am dead serious.
I think encouraging children to believe a little bit of magic exists in the world is a wonderful thing, but parents take it way too far. It becomes a a several-year active deception where the child is getting closer and closer to the truth and the parent comes up with more exotic lies and rouses to convince the child. Everyone knows someone who believed for too long and was shattered when someone finally told them Santa isn't real.
It's the dumbest fucking tradition we have in America, and if you tell people you aren't interested in actively deceiving your child for half a decade, they look at you like you are some kind of goofy, radical hippy or something.
Burns my balls.
Since I don't give a shit about indoctrinated commercialism and backwards rituals, I have less stress in the holidays than you, I'd bet my farm on it!
I think most people far overestimate the "spirit of the season". With children it's different, but among adults there is little of the good will that is sung about to be found. It's been replaced by Black Friday madness and mountains of material possessions that do little to nothing for one's spiritual wellness.
My niece and nephew are getting a cardboard castle, dragon cutout, swords, shields, helmets and crowns from me. It cost me 3 hours and zero dollars, and I would say it's far closer to the spirit of the season than the abundance of plastic shit they will open for the holiday, so many plastic shit gifts that they will increasingly bored with each one and rush to open another as the thrill fades.Monkey Driven, Call this Living?0 -
Suggested pulling names and parents make suggestions for kids. Everyone was relieved. Now the one gift will get some thought. And nieces and nephews wo t each get 30 presents wth 90% requiring false elation.rgambs said:
I dont do it because of the holiday tradition, I do it because gift giving is a social contract that requires reciprocation, I fulfill my end of the contract in a way that satisfies my moral code. If someone doesn't feel good about handmade, shelf stable organic food made with love, that is a failing of the season, not me. I can tell you that it doesn't sit on a shelf year after year and accumulate dust or lie in a drawer like most Christmas gifts.pjhawks said:
yet you say you don't follow the traditions yet you admit above you give gifts...so in reality you do follow the same traditions as the rest of us, just in a way that satisfies your view of the world and makes YOU feel good about yourself as opposed to doing something to make others feel good. kind of misses the point of the whole season doesn't it?rgambs said:
Not at all, there's nothing that sucks about knowing and keeping close to your heart the things that really matter while you watch people who live their lives asleep rushing to and fro to honor traditions which they think little about and follow through rote devotion.pjhawks said:
it must suck going through life with such at attitude. lighten up Francis and learn to enjoy the things that don't need to be stressed or annoyed about.rgambs said:I hate Christmas. The endless, needless, inane trading of JUNK with social repercussions enforcing it as a dogmatic law is too much for me. I give everyone jars of jam, jelly, pickles, and salsa that I make in the summer...I think some people think I am a cheapskate, but I wish they would give me something wholesome instead of another damn hooded sweatshirt or knockoff PJ tshit.
What I hate the most is Santa.
Yeah, I am dead serious.
I think encouraging children to believe a little bit of magic exists in the world is a wonderful thing, but parents take it way too far. It becomes a a several-year active deception where the child is getting closer and closer to the truth and the parent comes up with more exotic lies and rouses to convince the child. Everyone knows someone who believed for too long and was shattered when someone finally told them Santa isn't real.
It's the dumbest fucking tradition we have in America, and if you tell people you aren't interested in actively deceiving your child for half a decade, they look at you like you are some kind of goofy, radical hippy or something.
Burns my balls.
Since I don't give a shit about indoctrinated commercialism and backwards rituals, I have less stress in the holidays than you, I'd bet my farm on it!
I think most people far overestimate the "spirit of the season". With children it's different, but among adults there is little of the good will that is sung about to be found. It's been replaced by Black Friday madness and mountains of material possessions that do little to nothing for one's spiritual wellness.
My niece and nephew are getting a cardboard castle, dragon cutout, swords, shields, helmets and crowns from me. It cost me 3 hours and zero dollars, and I would say it's far closer to the spirit of the season than the abundance of plastic shit they will open for the holiday, so many plastic shit gifts that they will increasingly bored with each one and rush to open another as the thrill fades.10-18-2000 Houston, 04-06-2003 Houston, 6-25-2003 Toronto, 10-8-2004 Kissimmee, 9-4-2005 Calgary, 12-3-05 Sao Paulo, 7-2-2006 Denver, 7-22-06 Gorge, 7-23-2006 Gorge, 9-13-2006 Bern, 6-22-2008 DC, 6-24-2008 MSG, 6-25-2008 MSG0 -
You DO realize that I, personally, would not object to the posting of said videos? And don't forget about the kitty thread.Thirty Bills Unpaid said:
And a big hug back to you, Hedo!hedonist said:
A hug to you from across the miles, Thirty. In a good place too, and thankful for it.Thirty Bills Unpaid said:I love Christmas.
Holidays. Festivities.
I get the mass consumerism aspect to it, but my family loves it and so do I. I spend enough time of the year being a curmudgeon. Christmas puts me in a good place.
Eat, drink and be merry, for tomorrow we die.
* Visited Pearl Harbor for the first time yesterday. A very somber experience. The Arizona is still leaking oil- you can see it leaking oil-
* I've gotten a few video texts from home- my cat is going nuts at home and amusing the hell out of me while I watch them here in Waikiki.
Just loving this time, these days, so much (plus it's raining in LA, woohoo! Yes, it's sad we celebrate that here) and the goodwill I've witnessed from fellow fans and strangers alike.0 -
I've bought two presents this year. One of them is a box of chocolates. One is mass commercialism gift that I only bought because I got a text asking when we could meet up to exchange gifts. Discussing this with a friend who usually buys me gifts, he said to me "it's hard times all around this year. Our company will be each other's gifts." So, for the first time in 23+ years, I have to pull the table out for Christmas Dinner. Now if only someone wanted to get me "I'll clean up!" for Christmas, that would be the best gift ever!
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Leaping into this thread - I loved Christmas when I was a kid. Watching Rudolph, A Charlie Brown Christmas, driving around town and looking at Christmas lights. Making Christmas cookies and fudge. Decorating the tree, decorating the house.
Years pass, I'm married, I have kids. And there is nothing in the world like being a parent and watching your kid wake up on Christmas morning. And that look in their eyes as they walk to the living room knowing that Santa's been here. They're too old now to believe in Santa, but it's still nice to be together.
Yeah, it sounds corny, but I love it.0 -
Ident, in addition to that lickered-up bundt cake I offered you on another thread (or this one?), were I there to deliver it I'd also help to clean up (ie, "delegate").
Late-chiming E?
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Christmas is fun. I enjoy it because my family gets together. We all chit chat and catch up. I have lots of cousins so it's great to see them all in one place.
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