The founding fathers didn't write the 2A for hunting

unsungunsung I stopped by on March 7 2024. First time in many years, had to update payment info. Hope all is well. Politicians suck. Bye. Posts: 9,487
edited December 2012 in A Moving Train
Please drop that silly and ridiculous thought from your brains.


You want to know what they intended the 2A for?

"The strongest reason for the people to retain the right to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny in government." ---Thomas Jefferson


Don't believe it's no longer necessary? I wish I lived in your fantasy world.
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  • fifefife Posts: 3,327
    unsung wrote:
    Please drop that silly and ridiculous thought from your brains.


    You want to know what they intended the 2A for?

    "The strongest reason for the people to retain the right to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny in government." ---Thomas Jefferson


    Don't believe it's no longer necessary? I wish I lived in your fantasy world.

    I wish i lived in your fantasy world where a handgun will protect you against your government.
  • If Thomas Jefferson had internet he will change this in 2 minutes via email
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  • unsungunsung I stopped by on March 7 2024. First time in many years, had to update payment info. Hope all is well. Politicians suck. Bye. Posts: 9,487
    fife wrote:
    unsung wrote:
    Please drop that silly and ridiculous thought from your brains.


    You want to know what they intended the 2A for?

    "The strongest reason for the people to retain the right to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny in government." ---Thomas Jefferson


    Don't believe it's no longer necessary? I wish I lived in your fantasy world.

    I wish i lived in your fantasy world where a handgun will protect you against your government.

    Who said anything about a handgun?
  • know1know1 Posts: 6,794
    edited December 2012
    unsung wrote:
    Please drop that silly and ridiculous thought from your brains.


    You want to know what they intended the 2A for?

    "The strongest reason for the people to retain the right to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny in government." ---Thomas Jefferson


    Don't believe it's no longer necessary? I wish I lived in your fantasy world.

    I don't believe the 2nd Amendment means anything anymore. At the time it was passed, guns could reasonable hold back a tyrannical government.

    Unless we're granted the right to bear missiles, tanks and bombs today, we're not going to stand a chance against the government with some pistols and shotguns.
    Post edited by know1 on
    The only people we should try to get even with...
    ...are those who've helped us.

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  • cincybearcatcincybearcat Posts: 16,460
    unsung wrote:
    Please drop that silly and ridiculous thought from your brains.


    You want to know what they intended the 2A for?

    "The strongest reason for the people to retain the right to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny in government." ---Thomas Jefferson


    Don't believe it's no longer necessary? I wish I lived in your fantasy world.


    You going to arm yourself against fighter jets, drones, and bombs? I think not.

    But then again, if that is the reason why we have a right to bear arms, why is it that most guns (other than hunting) are purchased to "protect" people from other people or criminals and not the gov't?
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  • cincybearcatcincybearcat Posts: 16,460
    If Thomas Jefferson had internet he will change this in 2 minutes via email

    Oh bullshit!!!



    He'd use Twitter. ;)
    hippiemom = goodness
  • fifefife Posts: 3,327
    unsung wrote:
    fife wrote:
    unsung wrote:
    Please drop that silly and ridiculous thought from your brains.


    You want to know what they intended the 2A for?

    "The strongest reason for the people to retain the right to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny in government." ---Thomas Jefferson


    Don't believe it's no longer necessary? I wish I lived in your fantasy world.

    I wish i lived in your fantasy world where a handgun will protect you against your government.

    Who said anything about a handgun?

    ok name whatever weapon you want and keep believing that it will protect you against your government if they ever decided to turn your country into dictatorship. .
  • If Thomas Jefferson had internet he will change this in 2 minutes via email

    Oh bullshit!!!



    He'd use Twitter. ;)
    isnt tweet only for pj tour announcement?? :mrgreen:
    "...Dimitri...He talks to me...'.."The Ghost of Greece..".
    "..That's One Happy Fuckin Ghost.."
    “..That came up on the Pillow Case...This is for the Greek, With Our Apologies.....”
  • unsungunsung I stopped by on March 7 2024. First time in many years, had to update payment info. Hope all is well. Politicians suck. Bye. Posts: 9,487
    unsung wrote:
    Please drop that silly and ridiculous thought from your brains.


    You want to know what they intended the 2A for?

    "The strongest reason for the people to retain the right to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny in government." ---Thomas Jefferson


    Don't believe it's no longer necessary? I wish I lived in your fantasy world.


    You going to arm yourself against fighter jets, drones, and bombs? I think not.

    But then again, if that is the reason why we have a right to bear arms, why is it that most guns (other than hunting) are purchased to "protect" people from other people or criminals and not the gov't?


    Nope, I guess I'd do what you'd do. Get on my knees and beg.
  • cincybearcatcincybearcat Posts: 16,460
    unsung wrote:
    Nope, I guess I'd do what you'd do. Get on my knees and beg.


    I'm not so chicken shit scared of my own government as you.
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  • JimmyVJimmyV Boston's MetroWest Posts: 19,183
    If Thomas Jefferson had internet he will change this in 2 minutes via email

    :lol::lol::lol:
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  • know1know1 Posts: 6,794
    unsung wrote:
    unsung wrote:
    Please drop that silly and ridiculous thought from your brains.


    You want to know what they intended the 2A for?

    "The strongest reason for the people to retain the right to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny in government." ---Thomas Jefferson


    Don't believe it's no longer necessary? I wish I lived in your fantasy world.


    You going to arm yourself against fighter jets, drones, and bombs? I think not.

    But then again, if that is the reason why we have a right to bear arms, why is it that most guns (other than hunting) are purchased to "protect" people from other people or criminals and not the gov't?


    Nope, I guess I'd do what you'd do. Get on my knees and beg.

    Beg for what?
    The only people we should try to get even with...
    ...are those who've helped us.

    Right 'round the corner could be bigger than ourselves.
  • fifefife Posts: 3,327
    unsung wrote:
    Nope, I guess I'd do what you'd do. Get on my knees and beg.


    I'm not so chicken shit scared of my own government as you.

    congrats, I find it funny that people think that if the government wanted to take over and control you that they would not have done that already.
  • gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 23,303
    unsung wrote:
    Please drop that silly and ridiculous thought from your brains.


    You want to know what they intended the 2A for?

    "The strongest reason for the people to retain the right to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny in government." ---Thomas Jefferson


    Don't believe it's no longer necessary? I wish I lived in your fantasy world.
    currently what tyrannical government do you need protection from?

    there is not a tyrannical government now, and there hasn't been since we won the revolutionary war.
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • unsungunsung I stopped by on March 7 2024. First time in many years, had to update payment info. Hope all is well. Politicians suck. Bye. Posts: 9,487
    You guys act like its never happened before. Read a damn history book.
  • JimmyVJimmyV Boston's MetroWest Posts: 19,183
    fife wrote:
    unsung wrote:
    Nope, I guess I'd do what you'd do. Get on my knees and beg.


    I'm not so chicken shit scared of my own government as you.

    congrats, I find it funny that people think that if the government wanted to take over and control you that they would not have done that already.

    Aren't we supposed to believe that it already did, that the Illuminati and the New World Order and FEMA and the UN are all pulling the puppet strings?
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  • unsungunsung I stopped by on March 7 2024. First time in many years, had to update payment info. Hope all is well. Politicians suck. Bye. Posts: 9,487

    Don't believe it's no longer necessary? I wish I lived in your fantasy world.
    currently what tyrannical government do you need protection from?

    there is not a tyrannical government now, and there hasn't been since we won the revolutionary war.[/quote]


    Prevention. An yes, there has. Civil war. Or do you think it was all about slavery?
  • gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 23,303
    edited December 2012
    unsung wrote:

    Don't believe it's no longer necessary? I wish I lived in your fantasy world.
    currently what tyrannical government do you need protection from?

    there is not a tyrannical government now, and there hasn't been since we won the revolutionary war.


    Prevention. An yes, there has. Civil war. Or do you think it was all about slavery?[/quote]



    it was primarily about slavery and the southern economy.

    why are you being so dramatic about the boogeyman government? you are normally a very level headed poster.

    edit to add, the guns in the civil war were provided for the armies by the respective governments, not the "well regulated militias" mentioned in the 2nd amendment that people like to talk about.

    edit again, someone fucked up the quote feature.
    Post edited by gimmesometruth27 on
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • josevolutionjosevolution Posts: 29,618
    There is a big difference between a Musket and AK 45 no ...
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  • unsungunsung I stopped by on March 7 2024. First time in many years, had to update payment info. Hope all is well. Politicians suck. Bye. Posts: 9,487
    edited December 2012
    Gimme,

    Because I don't trust it. And I felt the same under Bush as I do now.
    Post edited by unsung on
  • unsungunsung I stopped by on March 7 2024. First time in many years, had to update payment info. Hope all is well. Politicians suck. Bye. Posts: 9,487
    There is a big difference between a Musket and AK 45 no ...

    really? there's a big difference between writing with a quill pen and typing on an ipad, no?
  • josevolutionjosevolution Posts: 29,618
    unsung wrote:
    There is a big difference between a Musket and AK 45 no ...

    really? there's a big difference between writing with a quill pen and typing on an ipad, no?

    What are you so afraid of, all people wan't is some stricter laws you can keep your hunting guns the machineguns need to go surely you can see that no ...
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  • unsungunsung I stopped by on March 7 2024. First time in many years, had to update payment info. Hope all is well. Politicians suck. Bye. Posts: 9,487
    Machine guns have been banned from civilian use since 1964.


    And again the 2A wasn't written to hunt.
  • josevolutionjosevolution Posts: 29,618
    unsung wrote:
    Machine guns have been banned from civilian use since 1964.


    And again the 2A wasn't written to hunt.

    You know damn well what i mean again what are you afraid of ?
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  • unsungunsung I stopped by on March 7 2024. First time in many years, had to update payment info. Hope all is well. Politicians suck. Bye. Posts: 9,487
    Some more Jefferson quotes....

    “Laws that forbid the carrying of arms...disarm only those who are neither inclined nor determined to commit crimes... Such laws make things worse for the assaulted and better for the assailants; they serve rather to encourage than to prevent homicides, for an unarmed man may be attacked with greater confidence than an armed man.” (Quoting Cesare Beccaria)

    "The beauty of the Second Amendment is that it will not be needed until they try to take it."

    When the people fear their government, there is tyranny; when the government fears the people, there is liberty.
  • unsungunsung I stopped by on March 7 2024. First time in many years, had to update payment info. Hope all is well. Politicians suck. Bye. Posts: 9,487
    unsung wrote:
    Machine guns have been banned from civilian use since 1964.


    And again the 2A wasn't written to hunt.

    You know damn well what i mean again what are you afraid of ?


    Not a damn thing.
  • josevolutionjosevolution Posts: 29,618
    So you wan't status quo fine why don't you just say so , you wan't nothing changed even after the evnts of the past weekend i can respect you for that stance ...
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  • unsungunsung I stopped by on March 7 2024. First time in many years, had to update payment info. Hope all is well. Politicians suck. Bye. Posts: 9,487
    I never said that. If you want to have a discussion with me then stop putting words into my mouth.

    I do believe there needs to be a ban, a ban on drugs that change the brain so that the person doesn't know reality. ALL ALL ALL of these shooters are mentally screwed up in some fashion. There isn't a logically sane one in the bunch. Everyone here screams ban this type of gun or ban this type of magazine... but very few look towards fixing the source of the problem. Guns don't shoot themselves, we need to get to the bottom of why people feel like they should kill other people.
  • gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 23,303
    for fucks sakes, guns are the instrument to kill people. period. it doesn't matter who pulls the trigger. once the trigger is pulled a body is gonna stop that bullet and nothing else.

    people keep attacking meds. meds alter the brain chemistry in attempt to get it back to normal. all depression is is is a chemical imbalance and a lack of dopamine or serotonin. the meds help to correct that balance.
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • josevolutionjosevolution Posts: 29,618
    unsung wrote:
    I never said that. If you want to have a discussion with me then stop putting words into my mouth.

    I do believe there needs to be a ban, a ban on drugs that change the brain so that the person doesn't know reality. ALL ALL ALL of these shooters are mentally screwed up in some fashion. There isn't a logically sane one in the bunch. Everyone here screams ban this type of gun or ban this type of magazine... but very few look towards fixing the source of the problem. Guns don't shoot themselves, we need to get to the bottom of why people feel like they should kill other people.

    That's it ban drugs no banning of any weapons at all even the staunches of conservatives believe we need to at least ban the types of weapons that have been used in the past two mass murder cases , i would def wan't better treatment of the mentally i'll but you have to meet us half way on something no ...`
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