What's an "assault weapon"?

dignin

MotoDC wrote:

dignin wrote:

It seems there is a consensus here, most have the same idea of what they are calling to ban.

For the most part at this point, I agree, but I would offer that this particular forum does not necessarily reflect the views of the populace at large, whether left OR right.

I agree, very small sample size and mostly left leaning folks here, this being a PJ forum and all. Curious as to what the OP was looking for though.

MotoDC

Cosmo wrote:

No. i'm for hunting as sport. It's just that 'Hunting' has taken a odd term.
Hunting... as most of us think... is gong out in the brush and pretty much thinking like our ancent ancestors... or the natural predators of the forests and plains. Except for the part where the wolves work in packs and run down the weakest prey, instead of shooting them from a distance. But, i understand, we are not wolves. It seems like sport and the reward is red meat for the Winter.
But, hunting has become... sit in a tree... spray deer bait (canned deer pussy smell) and shoot the male deer, who thinks he is going to get laid, in the head, execution style. It's funny to me... not very sporting... which explains why I see a loyt of fat, out of shape hunters out there. you don't burn many calories, sitting around, waiting to ambush an unsuspecting, horny deer.
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Also... where in the 2nd Amendment is hunting mentioned? I must have missed that part.

This is a small part of what I was talking about in my post you quoted. Crack my shit up dude, even while I'm disagreeing with you.

Anyhow, maybe we're just having a communication problem because you made my point in your last sentence. The 2nd amendment has nothing at all to do with hunting, so the argument that "you don't need to fire 30 rounds in 7 seconds to kill a deer" is irrelevant to the 2nd amendment debate.

pjradio

Cosmo wrote:

hunting has become... sit in a tree... spray deer bait (canned deer pussy smell) and shoot the male deer, who thinks he is going to get laid, in the head

wrong...wouldn't shoot it in the head. If so, then after gutting, & while you were peeling the skin off the bone of the torso/head & you would discover that there would be a gaping bullet wound in the skull & that would ruin the majestic, lifeless deer mount that would normally be proudly displayed on a wall...& then your friends would complain

JonnyPistachio

pjradio wrote:

Cosmo wrote:

hunting has become... sit in a tree... spray deer bait (canned deer pussy smell) and shoot the male deer, who thinks he is going to get laid, in the head

wrong...wouldn't shoot it in the head. If so, then after gutting, & while you were peeling the skin off the bone of the torso/head & you would discover that there would be a gaping bullet wound in the skull & that would ruin the majestic, lifeless deer mount that would normally be proudly displayed on a wall...& then your friends would complain

So the hole in its head would ruin the majesticity of the animal, not the actual ending of its life?

pjradio

JonnyPistachio wrote:

pjradio wrote:

Cosmo wrote:

hunting has become... sit in a tree... spray deer bait (canned deer pussy smell) and shoot the male deer, who thinks he is going to get laid, in the head

wrong...wouldn't shoot it in the head. If so, then after gutting, & while you were peeling the skin off the bone of the torso/head & you would discover that there would be a gaping bullet wound in the skull & that would ruin the majestic, lifeless deer mount that would normally be proudly displayed on a wall...& then your friends would complain

So the hole in its head would ruin the majesticity of the animal, not the actual ending of its life?

goingtoverona

the mob's weapon of choice back in the day was a .22, it was quiet and it had enough power to break the skull but not break out so it would just rattle around in your head turning your brain to mush.

JonnyPistachio

pjradio wrote:

JonnyPistachio wrote:

pjradio wrote:

wrong...wouldn't shoot it in the head. If so, then after gutting, & while you were peeling the skin off the bone of the torso/head & you would discover that there would be a gaping bullet wound in the skull & that would ruin the majestic, lifeless deer mount that would normally be proudly displayed on a wall...& then your friends would complain

So the hole in its head would ruin the majesticity of the animal, not the actual ending of its life?

I got the sarcasm, so was mine...see the -->

Cosmo

goingtoverona wrote:

the mob's weapon of choice back in the day was a .22, it was quiet and it had enough power to break the skull but not break out so it would just rattle around in your head turning your brain to mush.

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Key note being... "back in the day".

pjradio

JonnyPistachio wrote:

pjradio wrote:

I got the sarcasm, so was mine...see the -->

touche'...well played...didn't notice the first time around

mydogmookieblaylock

Cosmo wrote:

goingtoverona wrote:

the mob's weapon of choice back in the day was a .22, it was quiet and it had enough power to break the skull but not break out so it would just rattle around in your head turning your brain to mush.

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Key note being... "back in the day".

like the Bill of Rights

Cosmo

mydogmookieblaylock wrote:

Cosmo wrote:

goingtoverona wrote:

the mob's weapon of choice back in the day was a .22, it was quiet and it had enough power to break the skull but not break out so it would just rattle around in your head turning your brain to mush.

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Key note being... "back in the day".

like the Bill of Rights

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Sort of... I guess.
"A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed".
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The mob used to use .22 caliber pistols... mostly in executions type murders, to the head.
Probably a bit different from the Right to own weapons.

goingtoverona

i think our government considers most of our militias terrorists. can't say i blame them, seems like it's mostly hateful, ignorant angry people. which is a shame, because i would love to join a good militia as like a shooting club or something. meet once a week to hit the range and shoot the shit.

unsung

JimmyV wrote:

Where did the OP go?

I have a job junior.

unsung

MotoDC wrote:

mydogmookieblaylock wrote:

I assume the reason no one had previously answered your question is because no one believe you didn't actually know the answer.

Actually, there's quite a bit of firearm ignorance on this site. It's not unreasonable to think that people don't know what in the fuck they're talking about when it comes to the details of firearms, which could lead someone to the conclusion that many people here are just knee jerk reactionaries.

Look at this thread you're in. We're down to assualt rifles being pretty much anything other than a 3-round bolt-action hunting rifle. One person was willing to concede that handguns were not assualt rifles/weapons, but you wouldn't get that agreement from everyone on this site/thread.

The point is that it's easy and feels good and self-fulfilling to scream "BAN ASSAULT RIFLES" because everyone who does is so cock-sure they're in the right, especially in light of the recent tragedy. But when you get past the fervor, it becomes clear we're not just talking about banning those "scary" AR-15s that look like what we see in movies about US Navy SEALs -- which I realize it feels very good and warm and fuzzy to ban -- we're talking about an across-the-board ban on everything that doesn't look like something that John Wayne would have strapped to his saddle in an old Western.

Finally. Thank you. Everyone wants to ban something that they can't even accurately define.

JimmyV

unsung wrote:

JimmyV wrote:

Where did the OP go?

I have a job junior.

That job did not prevent you from posting in other threads since you started this one, did it?

pandora

I'm pretty sure there are some militias groups or whatever title we might want to use,
that are intelligent thoughtful people.

They are regular people, prepared, they do not trust the powers that be. Can't blame them.
Who would possibly trust our political system ... well maybe sheep might.
I look at them as boy scouts. Ready to help all those who need it
if or when the time comes.

And damn a cold beer and conversation with a few of them is a good old time

Interesting thread.

unsung

JimmyV wrote:

But the 2nd amendment was also written at a time when its authors could imagine no weapon more powerful than a cannon. And if a citizen set up a cannon on his property, either the town fathers or the local militia would come calling sooner rather than later. And they would be asking the logical question, "Why do you need this?" before hauling said cannon away.

That's funny, you must've lived in the times.

unsung

JimmyV wrote:

unsung wrote:

JimmyV wrote:

Where did the OP go?

I have a job junior.

That job did not prevent you from posting in other threads since you started this one, did it?

Ever heard of a break period?

unsung

Cosmo wrote:

unsung wrote:

In your words, not wiki's. I've asked numerous times for a definition but still haven't received one.

Many on here want "assault weapons" banned, I want to know what they are.

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A civilian derivative of a military styled, long barreled gun that is capable of firing multiple rounds from a high capacity magazine. Examples of such a weapon is an AR-15, AK-47, AK-74, etc...
This also includes short weapons, such as the Uzi, Mac-10 and Tec 9 automatic pistol. Pretty much any weapon that is magazine or drum fed that is capable of being converted from a semi-automatic state to fully automatic.
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Weapons such as the .50 caliber sniper rifle should fall into the banned from civilian use because we really don't want anyone outside of our military and/or law enforcement listing 'Sniper' as their occupation.... do we?
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Weapons that do not fall under this classification. Bolt or lever action rifles up to .30 caliber. Non-drum loaded shotguns. Revolvers and semi-automatic pistols (with no greater capacity than 13 rounds, or the nominal length of the grip). A .357 or .38 caliber is sufficient for home defense... as is a 9mm or .45 caliber semi-automatic handgun. .30 caliber hunting rifles and shotguns are capable sporting rifles.

Good reply. Although I don't necessarily agree it was obviously thought out.

dimitrispearljam

are those damn things kill people????are those fuckin things used to kill 20 innocent children 2 days ago??

YES...

i dont fuckin need to know any other details for not like them..