Petition/Movement : End MSM coverage of massive violence.

PN120540

Hello,

It has been a few years since I have been on this forum but I figured this would be an effective way to communicate with like minded people about my cause. To begin, Friday's Sandy Hook tragedy struck a personal chord with me and I have not been able to shake it. I believe that we must, as a society, finally say "enough is enough" and we are too good of people to let senseless acts of random violence affect so many small children.

I recently started a petition to help promote the dialogue that national media outlets should not cover massacres and mass shootings and leave it on the local level. These events should not be ignored, but please, let the communities that are directly affected by these horrific events report the news. Non-stop, 24/7, in your face news coverage does nothing but further promote these acts by crazed individuals who are sick enough to participate in them. Add in the motive of profit and it becomes negligible, criminal, and immoral.

I realize that there is no way to force Fox, MSNBC, NPR, ABC, NYT and all the other major outlets to do anything, after all, they are only after a profit and nothing else. We can change the conversation by refusing to support any stories relating to mass murders being reported by these outlets. Please like and share my petition and I strongly urge you DO NOT WATCH ANY CABLE NEWS COVERAGE OF THIS EVENT, DO NOT CLICK ON ANY LINK THAT COVERS THE EVENT FROM THESE SAME SOURCES. Together, we can keep these things out of the news and the collective consciousness. It will not solve the problem, but I think we can all agree, it is a great way to start.

http://www.facebook.com/petitiontomsmto ... omviolence


Thank You,

Anonymous.

Greatplainsman...

Thumbs up.

PN120540

I'm not blaming the news coverage. I'm blaming myself. I'm blaming everyone that continues to look at the train wreck. We as a culture need to admit that we are sick. We need to not glorify violence and we need to not pay attention to monsters. This isn't a cure, but it is an advancement of dialogue to recognize our violent and perverse ways and right the ship by any means necessary.

If you don't want to hear about tragic events, then don't listen. Eventually the individuals who gain recognition from such despicable acts, will no longer have an audience, or an instruction guide. The government governs, because we elect them. The news reports, because we watch. The insane act, because we pay attention.

Let's all come together and say "If you commit heinous acts, then we will never hear your name and you will remain even more irrelevant than you were before."

This cannot happen again. Let's stop giving infamy to the people involved, ignoring the victims, and profiting off of our losses.

Suziemay

So we should all look away and pretend this didn't happen? What about 9/11? Should we have looked away from that too? Not reporting on an event does not change the fact that it happened, it only makes the rest of the world grossly misinformed. The problem is not with information, the problem is with the availability and accessibility of weapons to individuals who have no business being near them.

You are certainly entitled to your opinion as I am mine, and I and many others completely disagree with you.

PN120540

Please visit the link. I am absolutely not advocating the ignoring of such events. I just personally believe that we should leave the reporting to the local news organizations in the communities that were directly affected by this. Never forget 9/11, never forget Columbine, Sandy Hook, or the Alamo for that matter. But why do we as a society want to give money to a global organization that helps perpetuate a violent culture.

In my dream world, Sandy Hook would never have happened. In my rational, sane, real world, if it does happen, then let the Newtown, CT news cover it. Provide a small link in the corner of the page on NPR, Fox, CNN etc (redirecting to the local news source) so that people can read about if if they so wish. Placing it on the front cover of every news paper, parading it on cable TV, and making it the biggest picture on any website you visit only furthers the problem. It is our right to know and talk about it, as protected by the first amendment, but it is also our right not to ignore people that throw it in our face for profit.

Look deep within your heart and ask yourself, "why do I want to hear about this?" "what good does it do me and my soul's development?"

In the capitalistic culture that engulfs us as Americans, let's make it more profitable to spread news of love than that of violence.

CanNotStay

Yeah I've actually have been thinking about this a lot lately. This video shows a lot how mass media further perpetuates these mass shootings: http://youtube.com/index?&desktop_uri=%2F#/watch?v=PezlFNTGWv4

TN70407

But is not talking about something better than everyone knowing? What about old fashion news that told the facts with no spin.

PN120540

I think not talking about it is better than everyone knowing. If fewer kids hear about it, then fewer kids will get the idea that they could pull it off. It's tragic, it's sad, and it's more than messed up. Let the community mourn and share how they please. Don't interrupt CBS football on Sunday to talk about the killer. Don't give him the satisfaction. Don't glorify it.

TN70407

First off this will probably and rightfully be moved over to moving train forum. I watched football all day and didn't see anything about it other than some reflection pieces until the presidential speech on NBC. For once I will give credit that I don't know anything about the shooter. Not like the joker jerk off in CO when I saw his photo every three seconds. Again that might be because I watched football all day and didn't fart about on the Internet.
But onto the president. We had a speech during a football game from the president about a horrible tragedy committed on children. To say that, hypothetically, that the west coast should not cover it because it happened on the east coast is irresponsible. Should we not know about on goings in the Middle East because it isn't here? Should we be worried that kids will blow up a bus because they saw it happen in Israel? You say kids learn from the news then I say shame on us, America. When did we stop raising our own children? When did we decide that our heads in the sand was better than conversation and action?

PN120540

I understand everyone's concern with the "ostrich mentality." However, I don't think that I am communicating my intentions effectively enough.

What I want: Go to www.cnn.com after something like this happens. There is a link in the corner that says "30 dead after tragic CT shooting." When you click on it, it relays you to the Newtown, CT local news site that reports what happened. I don't want "body counts" and "breaking news: killer stole weapons." These stories get ratings because we are deeply ingrained as a culture to care about the things that don't matter in these incidents. We want to see the wreckage, blood, and pain. It is infinitely more fascinating than whatever else is going on in our day-to-day lives. But it shouldn't be. I'm pleading with every American to find that animalistic urge inside of them and silence it.

I feel as though we are equally at fault for these events as we are experiencing a serious crisis in American culture and direction. This is horrible. A rational, civilized society should have no appetite to stomach these events. Let's shift the conversation towards why we are disturbed/touched/offended/depressed/upset/relieved/scared by these things and why we as a country thirst to relive them.

It's not about gun control, it's not about video games, it's not about politicians. It's about picking on a kid when you were 12 because you had nicer shoes than him. It's about not being able to cook a meal for your kids and sit down with them and ask them about their day. It's about talking on the PJ forum instead of going on a picnic with your girlfriend. We are too concerned with iPhones, money, politics, the economy, even music to pay attention to the things that need it, such as interpersonal relationships. Give your friend a hug, let someone cut you during rush hour, buy a stranger a beer and walk away. These things won't prevent tragedies like this but we need to look in the mirror and realize that even the little things we do help perpetuate this kind of behavior.

RS151862

We've officially reached the point where a new album or tour has to be announced. When nonsense like this is posted its time for some actual PJ news. On another note Im starting a petition that espn and the NFL network should not be allowed to cover NFL games. All coverage should be limited to local papers and barbershop discussions. This should help solve the problem of players committing off the field violent acts.

PN120540

"When nonsense like this is posted." I hope you don't mean that. I posted on this forum because it specifically stated "causes PJ supports." Grow a heart man. Some friends of mine are really hurting. Look in the mirror.

RS151862

How is a petition to prevent the national media from covering a tragic event a cause PJ supports?

RedMosquito02

I think your heart is in the right place, but your "tactic" could not be more inane.

This is news. Whether you or I like it or not, this is horrific, terrible news. To think for a second that news entities will stop covering news is just, well silly. To stop watching and ignore it will not prevent this from happening again. Changes in our culture will.

Suziemay put it very well, "The problem is not with information, the problem is with the availability and accessibility of weapons to individuals who have no business being near them."


You are dead on here though: "A rational, civilized society should have no appetite to stomach these events." What's that phrase that people like to use? Freedom isn't free? For gun nuts, this is just the cost for their freedom and right to bear arms. It's absolutely disgusting and so warped, I can't even begin to understand the rationale.

Let's face it, our forefathers were wrong about slavery and guns.

PN120540

@ RS151862 - It's not a cause they support, but I'm trying to get them to. I will not apologize for my activism.

@RedMosquito02 - I absolutely understand where you're coming from and I'm not trying to get the Media to simply decide to not cover these stories. I do think that if we as a culture say that we don't want it force fed and in our faces, then eventually less attention will be paid to these wackos. Will it solve the problem? Absolutely not. Will banning guns? Absolutely not. All this is trying to accomplish is to get people to ask themselves "what do I personally do to promote the violent culture in America and how can I take steps to change that?"

I am done here, I set up a website http://www.wewillnotsupportviolence.org . I will populate it tonight and It will have a petition to agree to not participate in nationalized coverage of violence. Please continue about your day and if you don't support my cause, I will not force you to.


Think.

RedMosquito02

PN120540 wrote:

@RedMosquito02 - I absolutely understand where you're coming from and I'm not trying to get the Media to simply decide to not cover these stories. I do think that if we as a culture say that we don't want it force fed and in our faces, then eventually less attention will be paid to these wackos. Will it solve the problem? Absolutely not. Will banning guns? Absolutely not. I am asking everyone to look at themselves and say, I don't want to encourage these inhuman acts, therefore I will not acknowledge them. All this is trying to accomplish is to get people to look at themselves and ask "what do I personally do to promote the violent culture in America and how can I take steps to change that?"

I am done here, I set up a website http://www.wewillnotsupportviolence.org . I will populate it tonight and It will have a petition to agree to not participate in nationalized coverage of violence. Please continue about your day and if you don't support my cause, I will not force you to.


Think.

I completely respect your cause PN, best of luck with your petition/campaign. I, like everyone else, would like to never see another tragedy like this ever happen again.

RS151862

PN120540 wrote:

I am asking everyone to look at themselves and say, I don't want to encourage these inhuman acts, therefore I will not acknowledge them.

You cant seriously believe that turning a blind eye and refusing to acknowledge these acts will make them go away. Ignorance has never been a solution to anything.

CanNotStay

I think you guys are taking what PN is saying out of context. He's not saying not to cover this but to cover it in the most boring way possible in all markets outside of CT. Sensationalizing the event with 24/7, having the body-count, and plastering the killers face all over the place is exactly what these mentally ill people want. Again, I'll say to watch the video I posted previously: it provides of insight into this subject. For the same reason you don't show streamers on TV, because you don't give the offender the attention they're seeking. I feel that a lot of people just like to indulge in their fascination with the abominable and can't see the big picture.

ikiT

This "movement" and "activism" seems a tad misguided. I'm not sure what the OP wants.

I heard enough about this story after the first reports of it. It's not that I dont care, I've got two kids who were that completely innocent age at one time, my sister lives in Connecticut and has 2 preschool age children...regardless this shit storm could have happened absolutely ANYWHERE. For my own sanity, I've gone out of my way to only take small sips of it, mostly because it's SO TOXIC, but it needs to be real. My Newtown intake consisted of nothing but text, no video and no photographs, and just the barebone facts about it, 20 year old shooter, kindergarten teacher mother, twenty 6 and 7 year old kids, and a handful of teachers. No one forces anyone to partake in the 24 hour news/opinion cycle or have that crack pipe of a "smart" phone in your hand. Just because this society is hyper connected, doesn't mean you as an individual have to buy into it. It's just TV and the internet. Look away. The news monster will still be there regardless, setting up satellite trucks in some other town, just 2 or three weeks from now, in front of some other breaking story. They are obligated to do what they do. They're not going to STOP covering news stories, especially stories as completely effed up as this story is. You, however are not obligated to participate.
That's not to say you shouldn't work toward changing what you consider to be societies ills (be it reasonable gun legislation, easier access to mental health care, or anti-bullying, OR WHATEVER) by becoming an activist for change either at the grassroots level or supporting candidates who follow whatever your politcal agenda is.

Jay

CanNotStay

I think anyone who ignores the medias influence in these events are just being ignorant. A forensic psychiatrist, someone who is an expert in this field, has asked CNN multiple times to not open the segment with sirens blaring, not make the body count the lead-in to the story, and not show the killers face everywhere. Why have they not obliged? Because they are in the business of mass spectacle. Tiki they're not obliged to inform the public, they're obliged by their CEOs and advertising endorsements to get the highest possible ratings, bottom-line.

ikiT

CanNotStay wrote:

I think anyone who ignores the medias influence in these events are just being ignorant. A forensic psychiatrist, someone who is an expert in this field, has asked CNN multiple times to not open the segment with sirens blaring, not make the body count the lead-in to the story, and not show the killers face everywhere. Why have they not obliged? Because they are in the business of mass spectacle. Tiki they're not obliged to inform the public, they're obliged by their CEOs and advertising endorsements to get the highest possible ratings, bottom-line.

Agreed, one hundred percent...the "news media", be it MSNBC, or Fox, or CNN, or The New York Times owes no obligation to anyone but the corporations that present them, and the $$$ only.

Their job is that of sensationalism, disguised as public service.

I'm saying thanks, but no thanks.

PN120540

Thanks again for everyone's support. This will be the last post on here, I promise. Just wanted to let everyone know the website is up and running. Please sign the pledge to not participate in fear mongering by the media.

http://www.wewillnotsupportviolence.org

Also please share and help spread if you agree with the cause.