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Anyone Support Free Speech?

DriftingByTheStormDriftingByTheStorm Posts: 8,684
edited December 2012 in A Moving Train
LOOK IN THE MIRROR.
This is YOUR FAULT.
YOU DID THIS.

Yep.
If you didn't support free speech, we wouldn't have violence infecting every facet of global entertainment. We wouldn't have free push-button communication for the spewing of viral hate and vitrol that indoctrinates people from a young age in to cults of hate and fear, and unfortunate violence.

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If I was to smile and I held out my hand
If I opened it now would you not understand?
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  • DriftingByTheStormDriftingByTheStorm Posts: 8,684
    Let's be honest here... the 'silence' from the Free Speach toters speaks volumes.
    If I was to smile and I held out my hand
    If I opened it now would you not understand?
  • brianluxbrianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 42,088
    You lost me on this one, Drifting. :?:
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  • dignindignin Posts: 9,336
    AMT needs to take a deep breath today
  • CosmoCosmo Posts: 12,225
    DriftingByTheStorm wrote:
    Let's be honest here... the 'silence' from the Free Speach toters speaks volumes.
    ...
    Come on... give us more than one minute to respond to your initial statement.
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    Hail, Hail!!!
  • DS1119DS1119 Posts: 33,497
    I'm all for free speech. As long as it doesn't break any rules or laws. Say what you want.
  • CosmoCosmo Posts: 12,225
    DriftingByTheStorm wrote:
    LOOK IN THE MIRROR.
    This is YOUR FAULT.
    YOU DID THIS.

    Yep.
    If you didn't support free speech, we wouldn't have violence infecting every facet of global entertainment. We wouldn't have free push-button communication for the spewing of viral hate and vitrol that indoctrinates people from a young age in to cults of hate and fear, and unfortunate violence.

    :fp: :fp: :fp: :roll: :roll: :roll: :fp: :fp: :fp:
    ...
    Okay... so, the actions of violence is because we are free to speak of violence? If we did not express our thoughts and beliefs... we would not have violence?
    Please, expand on your initial thoughts.
    Thanx.
    Allen Fieldhouse, home of the 2008 NCAA men's Basketball Champions! Go Jayhawks!
    Hail, Hail!!!
  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 38,717
    I want to scream FIRE in a crowded theater or yell BOMB on a plane with no reprecussions. Since we have free speech as our FIRST basic right , I should be able to do so , public welfare be damned.
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  • DS1119DS1119 Posts: 33,497
    mickeyrat wrote:
    I want to scream FIRE in a crowded theater or yell BOMB on a plane with no reprecussions. Since we have free speech as our FIRST basic right , I should be able to do so , public welfare be damned.



    This is illegal.
  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 38,717
    DS1119 wrote:
    mickeyrat wrote:
    I want to scream FIRE in a crowded theater or yell BOMB on a plane with no reprecussions. Since we have free speech as our FIRST basic right , I should be able to do so , public welfare be damned.



    This is illegal.
    so the problem is we dont have a free speech lobby like the NRA.
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  • CosmoCosmo Posts: 12,225
    Let me add... I support Freedom of Speech because I don't want my government to corner the market on what I'm supposed to hear.
    And YES... we live in a world where horrible truths exist... greed, lust, murder, war, hatred. We should know of these things because they do exist... and they exist because it is part of Mankind... not because it is on television. I WANT to know there are Klansmen and Nazis out there because I want to be able to spot them. The best way to spot them is through the words they say and the actions they undertake. I oppose their views, but will defend their rights to express them. I will fight their actions because, unlike words, actions can kill. Last time I checked, no one was killed by a word... millinons have died due to actions.
    So... if you really believe that I am to blame.. I am the one who pulls the trigger... go right ahead. I'm calling bullshit on your words... because that is my right.
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    Hail, Hail!!!
  • whygohomewhygohome Posts: 2,305
    DriftingByTheStorm wrote:
    LOOK IN THE MIRROR.
    This is YOUR FAULT.
    YOU DID THIS.

    Yep.
    If you didn't support free speech, we wouldn't have violence infecting every facet of global entertainment. We wouldn't have free push-button communication for the spewing of viral hate and vitrol that indoctrinates people from a young age in to cults of hate and fear, and unfortunate violence.

    :fp: :fp: :fp: :roll: :roll: :roll: :fp: :fp: :fp:

    You've lost it, dude. You are no longer drifting, the storm has taken you off course, far off course.
  • DS1119DS1119 Posts: 33,497
    mickeyrat wrote:
    DS1119 wrote:
    mickeyrat wrote:
    I want to scream FIRE in a crowded theater or yell BOMB on a plane with no reprecussions. Since we have free speech as our FIRST basic right , I should be able to do so , public welfare be damned.



    This is illegal.
    so the problem is we dont have a free speech lobby like the NRA.


    Plenty of free speech lobbies. Also, the NRA doesn't advocate people getting guns and go on shooting sprees. They promote safe gun ownership, not this.
  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 38,717
    DS1119 wrote:
    mickeyrat wrote:
    DS1119 wrote:

    This is illegal.
    so the problem is we dont have a free speech lobby like the NRA.


    Plenty of free speech lobbies. Also, the NRA doesn't advocate people getting guns and go on shooting sprees. They promote safe gun ownership, not this.
    I certainly could be wrong but they are not to my knowledge proposing anything that might help?
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    memories like fingerprints are slowly raising.................................... first niagara center buffalo '13
    another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '14
  • DS1119DS1119 Posts: 33,497
    mickeyrat wrote:
    I certainly could be wrong but they are not to my knowledge proposing anything that might help?



    Promoting safe and responsible gun ownership isn't helpful?
  • whygohomewhygohome Posts: 2,305
    DS1119 wrote:
    mickeyrat wrote:
    I certainly could be wrong but they are not to my knowledge proposing anything that might help?



    Promoting safe and responsible gun ownership isn't helpful?

    Yeah, that's what they do. And McDonald's promotes health foods.
  • DS1119DS1119 Posts: 33,497
    whygohome wrote:
    DS1119 wrote:
    mickeyrat wrote:
    I certainly could be wrong but they are not to my knowledge proposing anything that might help?



    Promoting safe and responsible gun ownership isn't helpful?

    Yeah, that's what they do. And McDonald's promotes health foods.


    You don't have to eat at McDonalds.


    http://training.nra.org/


    65,000 instructors.
  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 38,717
    DS1119 wrote:
    mickeyrat wrote:
    I certainly could be wrong but they are not to my knowledge proposing anything that might help?



    Promoting safe and responsible gun ownership isn't helpful?
    check it, search The columbus dispatch. Should take you to my hometown paper. Theres an article in there about a vote that passed today. you tell in all seriousness how their actions were helpful to the common good.
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    Not today Sir, Probably not tomorrow.............................................. bayfront arena st. pete '94
    you're finally here and I'm a mess................................................... nationwide arena columbus '10
    memories like fingerprints are slowly raising.................................... first niagara center buffalo '13
    another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '14
  • hedonisthedonist Posts: 24,524
    I may be off, but based on Drifting's earlier posts in another thread and some of the reactions, I think I get where he's coming from here.

    For whatever it's worth (hey, it's just an opinion, so probably not worth more than a wooden nickel), but from what I've read, this fellow has my respect for some beautifully stated thoughts on a variety of issues. May not always agree, but always appreciate the perspective, especially as presented.

    Today, for me, has transcended a shitload of emotions that run the gamut - and introduced me to a few I haven't experienced before.

    I know I'm not alone in this.

    For now, why not cut each other some slack?
  • brianluxbrianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 42,088
    hedonist wrote:

    Today, for me, has transcended a shitload of emotions that run the gamut - and introduced me to a few I haven't experienced before.

    I know I'm not alone in this.

    Definitely not, my friend.
    hedonist wrote:
    For now, why not cut each other some slack?

    Sounds like a great idea, Hedonist. :clap:
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  • Thirty Bills UnpaidThirty Bills Unpaid Posts: 16,881
    DriftingByTheStorm wrote:
    Let's be honest here... the 'silence' from the Free Speach toters speaks volumes.

    Your analogy is a poor one in your attempt to mock earlier posts. How about I mock your belief that without a big supply of guns, the government will become tyrannical? And the subsequent argument that it is every citizen's duty to own a weapon to be ready for such an event?
    "My brain's a good brain!"
  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 38,717
    I swore an oath when I joined the navy, oh 24 years ago, to defend the constitution against all enemies foreign and domestic.

    I still stand by that oath today, but it happens at the ballot box not at the barrel of a gun.
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    Not today Sir, Probably not tomorrow.............................................. bayfront arena st. pete '94
    you're finally here and I'm a mess................................................... nationwide arena columbus '10
    memories like fingerprints are slowly raising.................................... first niagara center buffalo '13
    another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '14
  • pjradiopjradio Posts: 6,704
    DS1119 wrote:
    mickeyrat wrote:
    I certainly could be wrong but they are not to my knowledge proposing anything that might help?



    Promoting safe and responsible gun ownership isn't helpful?

    not when they support assault weapons at the same time
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  • DriftingByTheStormDriftingByTheStorm Posts: 8,684
    Thirty Bills Unpaid wrote:
    DriftingByTheStorm wrote:
    How about I mock your belief that without a big supply of guns, the government will become tyrannical? And the subsequent argument that it is every citizen's duty to own a weapon to be ready for such an event?

    You would be mocking the constitution of the united states, not me.
    [and the beliefs of the majority of those great men who ratified the Bill of Rights]
    giant face whap for you :fp: :fp: :fp:
    If I was to smile and I held out my hand
    If I opened it now would you not understand?
  • PJ_SoulPJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 49,963
    The first post in this thread is nonsense.
    With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
  • Thirty Bills UnpaidThirty Bills Unpaid Posts: 16,881
    DriftingByTheStorm wrote:
    Thirty Bills Unpaid wrote:
    DriftingByTheStorm wrote:
    How about I mock your belief that without a big supply of guns, the government will become tyrannical? And the subsequent argument that it is every citizen's duty to own a weapon to be ready for such an event?

    You would be mocking the constitution of the united states, not me.
    [and the beliefs of the majority of those great men who ratified the Bil of Rights]
    giant face whap for you :fp: :fp: :fp:

    Great men who'd be rolling over in their graves knowing what their country has become. Take a face slap yourself for not adapting and making the obvious and necessary changes they no doubtedly would have expected given how the world has changed.

    They had the tough job. Yours is easy except you neglect to do it.
    "My brain's a good brain!"
  • dimitrispearljamdimitrispearljam Posts: 139,720
    why do you need the free fuckin speech???

    the FREE FUCKIN GUNS SPOKE ALREADY YESTERDAY....


    20 small children .......20 beautiful small innocent souls...


    will not live to have the chance to speak...ever fuckin again....
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    "..That's One Happy Fuckin Ghost.."
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  • KatKat Posts: 4,872
    Closed for Review.
    Falling down,...not staying down
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