Compassion Booths on southern border!

fear4freedomfear4freedom Posts: 920
edited December 2012 in A Moving Train
I have an idea for what I call "Compassion Booths" along our southern border. Its a 2000 mile border and I suggest at least 40 Compassion Booths evenly spaced out along our border for "Illegals" to use. They are not only safe-havens, but education centers. Think big on this one.....imagine the mindset of an illegal immigrant whom is "sneaking" in and risking their life in many ways. Then they are nervous, uncertain and fearful for a year or so after they get here. Imagine if they felt comfortable, welcomed and hopeful! What a difference that would be. Its all about the positive, hopeful mindset and shaping them for their new future.

Once they reach the Compassion Booth they will get a water, a pencil and notebook. They will fill out papers and get a workers card. They will have to take a 4 hour class on our history and meaning. Then, one more class on working, safety and their role in America. After that, they can sleep in one of the bunk beds. Then, the next morning they get a bagel, water, juice and egg. They await their recruiter to find what city needs them the most. Then, as soon as possible they are put onto a bus to go to a certain city. Once in the city, there is a community housing for them until they find where they wish to live within that city. During their stay, they are rewarded with work and people who will help guide them. At that point they getting the help they need to improve their lives. NOW the most important thing is they have to understand that they need to pay their "fair share" before sending money to Mexico or Central and South America. They need to understand that they cannot take from the system first and never give back. I believe if we help them in a way that is Compassionate, they will then appreciate it enough to WANT to give back here financially and they will also take pride in their work. We want to give them a HANDUP, not a HAND OUT

There will be people that find positions and people and recruit the right persons for the right positions!

Its like passing a drivers license test! Give them a reason to appreciate this country while bettering their lives and helping America! SIMPLE RIGHT?

Oh by the way dont get all offended of the words "illegal immigrant". One more thing, the border would not be open, it would be what it is now, these BOOTHS are like little "Embassies", and they are safe their. These booths would not deter our resolve of protecting our borders. They would only lift up and help out. Each booth has about 20 beds, and there are jeeps or vans that move the immigrants from one booth to another if need be. 20 beds times 40 booths is about 400 people every 3 days. This will accomidate about 100,000 illegals per year. This process will properly regulate the traffic and make our immigrant population much stronger in many ways to take on society when they get here. Their production will be that much better.
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  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 40,081
    dude , undocumented folks dont live in a vaccuum. money gets spent here. taxes get paid on purchases. They just get taken advantage of by "employers", So do the rest of the country for that matter.

    I can appreciate the thought here, but hows about we tackle the ones already here before we deal with those folks who may or may not be coming later.
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  • mickeyrat wrote:
    dude , undocumented folks dont live in a vaccuum. money gets spent here. taxes get paid on purchases. They just get taken advantage of by "employers", So do the rest of the country for that matter.

    I can appreciate the thought here, but hows about we tackle the ones already here before we deal with those folks who may or may not be coming later.

    "Tackle the ones already here"?? Whats that mean?
    Theres no time like the present

    A man that stands for nothing....will fall for anything!

    All people need to do more on every level!
  • Or put up a real border defense system and not get US agents killed by the drug runners. Its an absolute joke that one can walk or swim into the the so called most advanced and powerful nation on the planet.
  • pandorapandora Posts: 21,855
    Cool idea but there would be a terrific waiting list... no?

    We have a lot of people here, how many more can we welcome?
    And not all who come are honest wonderful hardworking people,
    just like not all Americans are. Prisons full.
    Our country is not fiscally functioning either and we don't have jobs
    for the peopler already here.

    I think Mexico needs help fixing their own country. So it's people want to stay there.
    How can we help them do that?
  • pandora wrote:
    Cool idea but there would be a terrific waiting list... no?

    We have a lot of people here, how many more can we welcome?
    And not all who come are honest wonderful hardworking people,
    just like not all Americans are. Prisons full.
    Our country is not fiscally functioning either and we don't have jobs
    for the peopler already here.

    I think Mexico needs help fixing their own country. So it's people want to stay there.
    How can we help them do that?

    The best thing we can do to help Mexico is promote oil drilling in a clean way. Tourism and promtion of Mexico. We can also help take pressure off the border if we get our border secure. We can definately work closer with them if the political agenda goes away.
    Theres no time like the present

    A man that stands for nothing....will fall for anything!

    All people need to do more on every level!
  • sabreleaf wrote:
    Or put up a real border defense system and not get US agents killed by the drug runners. Its an absolute joke that one can walk or swim into the the so called most advanced and powerful nation on the planet.

    Its a joke because of liberalism! Everything is a joke because of liberalism attached to policies with political correctness and appeasement intentions!
    Theres no time like the present

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  • catefrancescatefrances Posts: 29,003
    ...I believe if we help them in a way that is Compassionate, they will then appreciate it enough...

    im sure they appreciate it more than enough... after all a big part of your country used to be their country.
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  • ...I believe if we help them in a way that is Compassionate, they will then appreciate it enough...

    im sure they appreciate it more than enough... after all a big part of your country used to be their country.

    We are talking about all illegals who cross which are also central and south Americans, which was in the OP!
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  • catefrancescatefrances Posts: 29,003
    ...I believe if we help them in a way that is Compassionate, they will then appreciate it enough...

    im sure they appreciate it more than enough... after all a big part of your country used to be their country.

    We are talking about all illegals who cross which are also central and south Americans, which was in the OP!


    my apologies.. i kinda vagued out at the word compassion.
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  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 40,081
    mickeyrat wrote:
    dude , undocumented folks dont live in a vaccuum. money gets spent here. taxes get paid on purchases. They just get taken advantage of by "employers", So do the rest of the country for that matter.

    I can appreciate the thought here, but hows about we tackle the ones already here before we deal with those folks who may or may not be coming later.

    "Tackle the ones already here"?? Whats that mean?
    I believe there are an estimated 11 million here without legal documents? This is a problem no?Thats what I meant. Lets come to a viable solution that holds to our ideals and supposed principles as a country before we get into to what you suggest. Rhese folks are an asset that deserve better than they get right now.
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  • mickeyrat wrote:
    mickeyrat wrote:
    dude , undocumented folks dont live in a vaccuum. money gets spent here. taxes get paid on purchases. They just get taken advantage of by "employers", So do the rest of the country for that matter.

    I can appreciate the thought here, but hows about we tackle the ones already here before we deal with those folks who may or may not be coming later.

    "Tackle the ones already here"?? Whats that mean?
    I believe there are an estimated 11 million here without legal documents? This is a problem no?Thats what I meant. Lets come to a viable solution that holds to our ideals and supposed principles as a country before we get into to what you suggest. Rhese folks are an asset that deserve better than they get right now.

    Thats precisely the OP, to help immigrants who cross! The Booths are for people in the process of coming here.....not the ones who are here already! Clearly stated
    But there must be a secure border! Having the booths is just a humanitarian effort to help them!
    Theres no time like the present

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  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 40,081
    So let me ask you this then, what do we do to or with those folks already here?
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  • mickeyrat wrote:
    So let me ask you this then, what do we do to or with those folks already here?

    They can go to the DMV or something like it, for worker ID cards, and take the two classes and move forward!
    Theres no time like the present

    A man that stands for nothing....will fall for anything!

    All people need to do more on every level!
  • but you need them for cheap working hands...white people cost more to pay than latinos
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  • but you need them for cheap working hands...white people cost more to pay than latinos

    Yes. As soon as Fear's burger costs rise... he'll be posting another thread suggesting how we can lower the cost of whoppers.

    Geez man. Fear... your lack of respect for people needing more than you has me dizzy this morning. Are you serious with your dribble or are you just an antagonist?

    Again... fear... your post reeks of underlying disdain for the target of your proposals. You should probably 'walk the walk' and lead by example. Get back to Europe and leave the country to its original inhabitants if you truly believe there is a level of entitlement to the soil you happen to inhabit.
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  • OK thirty, did you read the OP? What is wrong with providing solutions that may actually work and change the mindset to favor their experience of coming here? PLEASE tell me and also tell me what your great ideas are, cause i havent seen anything out of you that is constructive and meaningful whatsoever! NOTHING!
    Theres no time like the present

    A man that stands for nothing....will fall for anything!

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  • OK thirty, did you read the OP? What is wrong with providing solutions that may actually work and change the mindset to favor their experience of coming here? PLEASE tell me and also tell me what your great ideas are, cause i havent seen anything out of you that is constructive and meaningful whatsoever! NOTHING!

    Well Fear... here's the thing:

    You see, I'm not big on borders. I'm of the mindset that if there were none... then many of the world's bigger problems wouldn't exist; therefore, given my ideals, I don't support regulations of any kind intent on distinguishing people from each other.

    Yes, I realize this idea or philosophy is hardly practical in a world run by territiorial nations filled with hatred and prejudice, but regardless- I don't feel that anyone has the right to deny access to some spot on the globe that they might wish to call home.

    Much more often than not, people who resist and argue that borders are necessary speak from an advantaged position and, quite frankly, do so with little or no regard to the fortunes of others. You often beat your chest on this forum with your loud and proud patriotism and so you should- you, like myself, have won in the lottery of life. We have been born in countries that offer many advantages to the people living there. Imagine if you had lost the lottery of life and, as an extreme example, helpessly had to watch your children die of starvation?

    I proudly speak of the school where I teach and often encourage people to make the effort to get their kids registered in it. I don't want our doors closed as an exclusive place only befit for those that have been there from day one. Likewise, I love my neighbourhood and I encourage people to move from theirs and join ours. I encourage people to join my golf course even though that might mean fewer tee times available to me. Why can't the same attitude exist for a country? If it truly is great... you think you would be welcoming people into it to enjoy the benefits as well!

    As unrealistic as this might sound... walls and borders have no place on our planet.
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  • catefrancescatefrances Posts: 29,003
    OK thirty, did you read the OP? What is wrong with providing solutions that may actually work and change the mindset to favor their experience of coming here? PLEASE tell me and also tell me what your great ideas are, cause i havent seen anything out of you that is constructive and meaningful whatsoever! NOTHING!

    Well Fear... here's the thing:

    You see, I'm not big on borders. I'm of the mindset that if there were none... then many of the world's bigger problems wouldn't exist; therefore, given my ideals, I don't support regulations of any kind intent on distinguishing people from each other.

    Yes, I realize this idea or philosophy is hardly practical in a world run by territiorial nations filled with hatred and prejudice, but regardless- I don't feel that anyone has the right to deny access to some spot on the globe that they might wish to call home.

    Much more often than not, people who resist and argue that borders are necessary speak from an advantaged position and, quite frankly, do so with little or no regard to the fortunes of others. You often beat your chest on this forum with your loud and proud patriotism and so you should- you, like myself, have won in the lottery of life. We have been born in countries that offer many advantages to the people living there. Imagine if you had lost the lottery of life and, as an extreme example, helpessly had to watch your children die of starvation?

    I proudly speak of the school where I teach and often encourage people to make the effort to get their kids registered in it. I don't want our doors closed as an exclusive place only befit for those that have been there from day one. Likewise, I love my neighbourhood and I encourage people to move from theirs and join ours. I encourage people to join my golf course even though that might mean fewer tee times available to me. Why can't the same attitude exist for a country? If it truly is great... you think you would be welcoming people into it to enjoy the benefits as well!

    As unrealistic as this might sound... walls and borders have no place on our planet.

    ^this. im in perfect agreeance with. borders are exclusionary.

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  • OK thirty, did you read the OP? What is wrong with providing solutions that may actually work and change the mindset to favor their experience of coming here? PLEASE tell me and also tell me what your great ideas are, cause i havent seen anything out of you that is constructive and meaningful whatsoever! NOTHING!

    Well Fear... here's the thing:

    You see, I'm not big on borders. I'm of the mindset that if there were none... then many of the world's bigger problems wouldn't exist; therefore, given my ideals, I don't support regulations of any kind intent on distinguishing people from each other.

    Yes, I realize this idea or philosophy is hardly practical in a world run by territiorial nations filled with hatred and prejudice, but regardless- I don't feel that anyone has the right to deny access to some spot on the globe that they might wish to call home.

    Much more often than not, people who resist and argue that borders are necessary speak from an advantaged position and, quite frankly, do so with little or no regard to the fortunes of others. You often beat your chest on this forum with your loud and proud patriotism and so you should- you, like myself, have won in the lottery of life. We have been born in countries that offer many advantages to the people living there. Imagine if you had lost the lottery of life and, as an extreme example, helpessly had to watch your children die of starvation?

    I proudly speak of the school where I teach and often encourage people to make the effort to get their kids registered in it. I don't want our doors closed as an exclusive place only befit for those that have been there from day one. Likewise, I love my neighbourhood and I encourage people to move from theirs and join ours. I encourage people to join my golf course even though that might mean fewer tee times available to me. Why can't the same attitude exist for a country? If it truly is great... you think you would be welcoming people into it to enjoy the benefits as well!

    As unrealistic as this might sound... walls and borders have no place on our planet.
    FUCK YEAH.......THIS IS ONE OF THE BEST FUCKIN POST IN THIS FORUM...

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  • OK thirty, did you read the OP? What is wrong with providing solutions that may actually work and change the mindset to favor their experience of coming here? PLEASE tell me and also tell me what your great ideas are, cause i havent seen anything out of you that is constructive and meaningful whatsoever! NOTHING!

    Well Fear... here's the thing:

    You see, I'm not big on borders. I'm of the mindset that if there were none... then many of the world's bigger problems wouldn't exist; therefore, given my ideals, I don't support regulations of any kind intent on distinguishing people from each other.

    Yes, I realize this idea or philosophy is hardly practical in a world run by territiorial nations filled with hatred and prejudice, but regardless- I don't feel that anyone has the right to deny access to some spot on the globe that they might wish to call home.

    Much more often than not, people who resist and argue that borders are necessary speak from an advantaged position and, quite frankly, do so with little or no regard to the fortunes of others. You often beat your chest on this forum with your loud and proud patriotism and so you should- you, like myself, have won in the lottery of life. We have been born in countries that offer many advantages to the people living there. Imagine if you had lost the lottery of life and, as an extreme example, helpessly had to watch your children die of starvation?

    I proudly speak of the school where I teach and often encourage people to make the effort to get their kids registered in it. I don't want our doors closed as an exclusive place only befit for those that have been there from day one. Likewise, I love my neighbourhood and I encourage people to move from theirs and join ours. I encourage people to join my golf course even though that might mean fewer tee times available to me. Why can't the same attitude exist for a country? If it truly is great... you think you would be welcoming people into it to enjoy the benefits as well!

    As unrealistic as this might sound... walls and borders have no place on our planet.

    I can appreciate this post and response. I like responses with sincerity, honesty and compassion. You are correct about a few things, in that we are blessed to have been born where we are so therefore some of us "beat our chests" in pride. I understand that. Your thoughts do ring with some interest here. The borderless world that you speak of certainly could be in the future's sights. There are many questions about it and whether it could make things simpler or more complex. It does seem that it could make things much more simple. I do think about that often. However, the USA didnt invent borders. Borders were invented well before the good ol USA was even founded. SO right now in the current history in which we exist, there are borders all over the world. The USA is no different than Zambia, France, Russia, or anyone else. There are many proud countries out there and many countries that arent so proud. So for now, my policy and idea is to accomidate those who are coming across the border now. Think of me as being "cutting edge" in a complex system. I am compassionate to those coming across so Im sure you are proud of my ideas for the betterment of mankind! Its a humanitarian effort. So the border is not the problem......my Compassion Booths are part of the solution for now!
    Theres no time like the present

    A man that stands for nothing....will fall for anything!

    All people need to do more on every level!
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