East Rutherford 6/3/06

Manofthepresenttense

I was there and have the boot, after the crowd at this show and the first one in jersey , I think this will be the last time they end the tour in jersey, it's embarassing how quiet the crowd gets during the animal fiasco, it wasn't til matt starting thumping his drum that we made some noise and still it was nothing.

The singing was ok at best, lame crowd overall , band knew it. I think they had some special stuff planned but changed it up after the first set, he was not going to reward a lame crowd. He says they got in a minor beef over what they were going to play, with a better crowd I think we would have had a one of a kind show , instead it was just a damn good show.

CaptainSpaz91

I was there too I dont know 6/3 seemed to be a great time, 6/1 was the weak crowd hey thats just me.

gregkitefan

I thought it was a very good show.
I was thinking it would be more like Penn State.
I figured they would have played for at least 3 hours plus.
Still a great time.

GhostBoy

I thought the crowd was pretty awesome for the Saturday show. Thursdays crowd, on the other hand...different story.

As for the disagreement on the song, someone here suggested that they were arguing about playing Army Reserve. Thursday night, a lot of people left their seats during this song. The poster suggested that the rest of the band was kind of leaning towards playing something else, especially after the ridiculously awesome finish of the 1st set.

Wasn't the best crowd ever, but I thought it was defnitely up there.

josevolution

maybe the answer is for smaller venues .

WindNoSail

Manofthepresenttense wrote:

I was there and have the boot, after the crowd at this show and the first one in jersey , I think this will be the last time they end the tour in jersey, it's embarassing how quiet the crowd gets during the animal fiasco, it wasn't til matt starting thumping his drum that we made some noise and still it was nothing.

The singing was ok at best, lame crowd overall , band knew it. I think they had some special stuff planned but changed it up after the first set, he was not going to reward a lame crowd. He says they got in a minor beef over what they were going to play, with a better crowd I think we would have had a one of a kind show , instead it was just a damn good show.

youve tried this before - I guess it is a Boston thing.

Tom Berenger

This crowd was not the greatest, but not nearly as bad as the DC crowd.

DocChicago

I'm a Mass native, went to both Boston shows and the 6/3 show. I really thought the crowd was great, and I have no stake at all in saying that. The pause during the Animal power outage lasted several minutes. No North American crowd would have gone apeshit for the entire 5 minutes. It just doesn't happen.

Maybe it was where you were sitting, MOTPT. I didn't think the crowd was lame at all.

a5pj

The crowd behind the stage where i was sucked, then all of a sudden came to life during last kiss when they turned around which kinda upset me for some reason, if you arent gonna cheer the whole time why cheer when they turn around... but anyway most ppl were sitting down ya know blah blah. That was fine tho gave me a better view... fan club seats are way better if your around other 10c members the show is 100x better!

good show overall tho i thought with my 6 shows in leg 1

Manofthepresenttense

WindNoSail wrote:

youve tried this before - I guess it is a Boston thing.

No it's not a Boston thing, I'm a huge fan , was really disappointed with this crowd, guess my expectations are set to high, I expected a better crowd from such a large demographics as the NY/NJ metro area and the last show of the leg. Crowd was sub par, maybe they should stick with NYC and stop going to Jersey.

CaptainSpaz91

easy killer, jersey shows are fine too haha

NOCODE#1

Manofthepresenttense wrote:

The singing was ok at best, lame crowd overall , band knew it. I think they had some special stuff planned but changed it up after the first set, he was not going to reward a lame crowd.

ladies and gentlemen, this douchebag thinks he knows what's in the bands head! He also thinks he has a feel for the crowd from his one seat.


you sir, are a tool.

lukins fridge

a5pj wrote:

The crowd behind the stage where i was sucked, then all of a sudden came to life during last kiss when they turned around which kinda upset me for some reason, if you arent gonna cheer the whole time why cheer when they turn around... but anyway most ppl were sitting down ya know blah blah. That was fine tho gave me a better view... fan club seats are way better if your around other 10c members the show is 100x better!

good show overall tho i thought with my 6 shows in leg 1

this is case in point why these crowd opinions are tough to judge...i was directly behind the stage, second row and everyone around me was crazy - which is the whole reason they turned around to play last kiss in the first place.

i also had a good view of the floor and i thought the crowd was very good. it's impossible to tell from the boots sometimes because of the different venues. and it's tough to tell from where you are sitting how the rest of the crowd is.

rhcpjam1029

i was also in attendance at the show and i thought that the audience was amazing. they practically would not stop screaming and yelling. from section 217, the fans one the floor looked pretty happy to be there. when i bought the boot, i did notice that the crowd sounded a little quiet, but thats obviously due to the company probably lowering the crowd volume so you can hear eddie better. they probably had to do that because continental is not a very great place to have concerts, as it was obviously shown in the first five songs of the concert. eddie even said he had a great time. he was very interactive with the crowd and sounded ecstatic to be there. he also mentions how he felt that the crowd was better the 2nd night rather than the first. "fuck it, i stayed" --- eddie during yellow ledbetter.

rollingstone423

sat show rocked- crowd was on point- stay in massachusetts next time- douchebag.

SpinMeRound

Manofthepresenttense wrote:

I was there and have the boot, after the crowd at this show and the first one in jersey , I think this will be the last time they end the tour in jersey, it's embarassing how quiet the crowd gets during the animal fiasco, it wasn't til matt starting thumping his drum that we made some noise and still it was nothing.

The singing was ok at best, lame crowd overall , band knew it. I think they had some special stuff planned but changed it up after the first set, he was not going to reward a lame crowd. He says they got in a minor beef over what they were going to play, with a better crowd I think we would have had a one of a kind show , instead it was just a damn good show.

This is one of the dumber posts I've ever read. What was the crowd suppossed to do -- cheer a power outage!?!? "YEEEAHHH, WOOOHOOO! POWER OUTAGE!!! ROCK ON!!!" I guess a Boston crowd would've cheered this, right? Ed complimented the crowd, but according to you the crowd was lame and the band knew it and that Ed didn't want to reward a lame crowd. You're pretty impressive. Tell us...what is Eddie thinking right now???

Do us all a favor, instead of starting a thread trashing a show that a lot of people had fun at, start another of the 1,000 threads already out there about how "wicked awesome" the Boston shows were.

Manofthepresenttense

SpinMeRound wrote:

This is one of the dumber posts I've ever read. What was the crowd suppossed to do -- cheer a power outage!?!? "YEEEAHHH, WOOOHOOO! POWER OUTAGE!!! ROCK ON!!!" I guess a Boston crowd would've cheered this, right? Ed complimented the crowd, but according to you the crowd was lame and the band knew it and that Ed didn't want to reward a lame crowd. You're pretty impressive. Tell us...what is Eddie thinking right now???

Do us all a favor, instead of starting a thread trashing a show that a lot of people had fun at, start another of the 1,000 threads already out there about how "wicked awesome" the Boston shows were.

If I had to guess I would say ed is thinking about their return to boston in 2007, and how great the crowd was there this year.

||Release_Me||

I was talking to HailHailVitalogy a few days ago about the crowds on the boots. He actually emailed 10c asking why the crowds were so quiet on the bootlegs. 10c replied saying Basecamp had been mixing the crowds for every bootleg lower than usual for this leg of the tour because the crowds were drowning out the band and they wanted us to be able to hear the music on the bootlegs.

Just relaying the message...

p.s. the boston shows were great, blah blah blah. Apart from the re-emergence of Leash during night 2, they weren't the most special shows of the tour so far. I've heard all the boots so far, and Grand Rapids is the best-sounding show for great crowd energy and great band performance.

pghas

Crowd energy, shmenergy. Pearl Jam comes out and melts everyone's face every night, and every night everyone in the building is totally amped up to see them. In some sections, people sit for periods of time, in other sections, nobody ever sits. I'd venture to say the energy level is pretty high coming from the crowd. He tells every crowd they're great in one way or another because they all are. I was at ER1 this year, I was on the floor, it was insane down there, and I specifically looked around at times to see what the rest of the building was doing, and as far as I could tell, going nuts. The momentum did not let up the entire show, 30 songs, insanely good setlist, the band sounds awesome on the bootleg as well. Everyone wants to think they were at some special show that was much better than the others. They're all amazing. Some people like some songs, some people like others. I can definitely understand why shows with fewer songs get a bad rap. But come on, its not like these guys are a jamband who clearly have good and bad nights. Version to version, most songs sound pretty much the same every night - almost always awesome. PJ brings their A game every night, your experioence at a show is largely subjective based on where you're sitting, who you're with, how much you drank, smoked, whatever, and whether or not some slob pukes on you.

elevation622

pghas wrote:

Crowd energy, shmenergy. Pearl Jam comes out and melts everyone's face every night, and every night everyone in the building is totally amped up to see them. In some sections, people sit for periods of time, in other sections, nobody ever sits. I'd venture to say the energy level is pretty high coming from the crowd. He tells every crowd they're great in one way or another because they all are. I was at ER1 this year, I was on the floor, it was insane down there, and I specifically looked around at times to see what the rest of the building was doing, and as far as I could tell, going nuts. The momentum did not let up the entire show, 30 songs, insanely good setlist, the band sounds awesome on the bootleg as well. Everyone wants to think they were at some special show that was much better than the others. They're all amazing. Some people like some songs, some people like others. I can definitely understand why shows with fewer songs get a bad rap. But come on, its not like these guys are a jamband who clearly have good and bad nights. Version to version, most songs sound pretty much the same every night - almost always awesome. PJ brings their A game every night, your experioence at a show is largely subjective based on where you're sitting, who you're with, how much you drank, smoked, whatever, and whether or not some slob pukes on you.

AMEN!!!

nothingman44

||Release_Me|| wrote:

p.s. the boston shows were great, blah blah blah. Apart from the re-emergence of Leash during night 2, they weren't the most special shows of the tour so far. I've heard all the boots so far, and Grand Rapids is the best-sounding show for great crowd energy and great band performance.

even if leash wasnt played, i still think boston wins out. i guess ya had to be there those 2 nights to know what i mean. there was this vibe throughout the building those 2 nights that was unexplainable. i was ER2 and it was an amazing show, but it just didnt have the same feeling as i did at the boston gigs.

vitodacat

SpinMeRound wrote:

This is one of the dumber posts I've ever read. What was the crowd suppossed to do -- cheer a power outage!?!? "YEEEAHHH, WOOOHOOO! POWER OUTAGE!!! ROCK ON!!!" I guess a Boston crowd would've cheered this, right? Ed complimented the crowd, but according to you the crowd was lame and the band knew it and that Ed didn't want to reward a lame crowd. You're pretty impressive. Tell us...what is Eddie thinking right now???

Do us all a favor, instead of starting a thread trashing a show that a lot of people had fun at, start another of the 1,000 threads already out there about how "wicked awesome" the Boston shows were.

I agree with this....what should of been done during the power outage then ??

jamminpearls

Manofthepresenttense wrote:

I was there and have the boot, after the crowd at this show and the first one in jersey , I think this will be the last time they end the tour in jersey, it's embarassing how quiet the crowd gets during the animal fiasco, it wasn't til matt starting thumping his drum that we made some noise and still it was nothing.

The singing was ok at best, lame crowd overall , band knew it. I think they had some special stuff planned but changed it up after the first set, he was not going to reward a lame crowd. He says they got in a minor beef over what they were going to play, with a better crowd I think we would have had a one of a kind show , instead it was just a damn good show.

guess we were at different shows,even though i was there! were u?

bones0138

no, no, no, this guy is totally right. around the 5th or 6th song of the set, the band gets together and judges the crowd. if we're not loud enough or dancing like crazy, they switch over to the "generic" setlist they use for the lame crowds. fuckin retard.

MayDay10

I think I am unbiased for the most part. The Hartford crowd was sort of lame... and thats my 'home field' for now. I hate the NYC area and always find ways to discredit the area, especially when it comes to sports fans and things like that. I actually love the city of Boston on the other hand.

Anyways I think to say the crowd was crappy at ER2 is ludicrous. That was the best crowd I have experienced at a PJ show which includes 2 shows in Boston (also good crowds).

when 80% of the people in attendance are bellowing out 'In Hiding', its tough to say the crowd was crappy. I was in a pretty so-so section too.... but the energy overall in the arena was overwhelming. when the power went out the place went nuts.... but people arent going to waste their voices for 5-10 minutes while a crew fixes things.

Ms. Haiku

bones0138 wrote:

around the 5th or 6th song of the set, the band gets together and judges the crowd. if we're not loud enough or dancing like crazy, they switch over to the "generic" setlist they use for the lame crowds.

Why does that make me sad. It's a good business practice, I guess, but it makes me sad boo hoo. So if I hear a generic set list then I'm part of "us" that's not up to par, I guess, eh?

SpinMeRound

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Originally Posted by MayDay10

"I think I am unbiased for the most part. The Hartford crowd was sort of lame... and thats my 'home field' for now. I hate the NYC area and always find ways to discredit the area, especially when it comes to sports fans and things like that. I actually love the city of Boston on the other hand."


So you live in Fairfield, love Boston, hate NYC and consider Hartford your 'home field'. Isn't NYC about the same distance from Fairfield as Hartford is...if not closer?

And while this certainly isn't the forum for a sports discussion, since you brought it up I'd be interested in your views on NYC sports fans -- especially since you appear to be a Bills fan. I've been to Ralph Wilson stadium and let's just say "classy" isn't the first word that comes to mind when describing their fanbase.

Mookie Vedder

I was at ER2 and the ironic part of this post is that Eddie decided to mention that the crowd was better for nite 2 and that it was a special nite. Now this dude is sayin the band had plans and shit and scrapped them because of the lame crowd. I don't know man, seems like you're just trying to stir shit up. I thought the first set was one of their best on this leg.

MayDay10

SpinMeRound wrote:

Quote:
Originally Posted by MayDay10

"I think I am unbiased for the most part. The Hartford crowd was sort of lame... and thats my 'home field' for now. I hate the NYC area and always find ways to discredit the area, especially when it comes to sports fans and things like that. I actually love the city of Boston on the other hand."


So you live in Fairfield, love Boston, hate NYC and consider Hartford your 'home field'. Isn't NYC about the same distance from Fairfield as Hartford is...if not closer?

And while this certainly isn't the forum for a sports discussion, since you brought it up I'd be interested in your views on NYC sports fans -- especially since you appear to be a Bills fan. I've been to Ralph Wilson stadium and let's just say "classy" isn't the first word that comes to mind when describing their fanbase.

I just moved from New Haven recently which is about equidistant from Boston and NYC (i think)... i didnt even live there very long either though. and yes, the Ralph is sometimes over the top... But growing up in Buffalo and going to college in central NY, I encountered a ton of fairweather/bandwagon NYC sports fans who only watched the Yanks in the world series, if the Giants suck root for the Jets, and hate hockey when the Rangers suck, but when they look good, they suddenly wore jerseys and talked a lot of trash. (i think i respect islanders/Mets fans). But anyways all those people just ruined those teams for me.

I was just trying to convey that I have no reason to want to give props to an NYC based crowd... But admitting that the crowd was pretty awesome.

Manofthepresenttense

maybe it was my seats, there was no one behind me , i was in section 104 , last row, only time i heard the crowd was during last kiss, alive and yl, i enjoyed the show , liked the set, maybe my expectations were too high for the last show of the leg.

pintabone

Manofthepresenttense wrote:

I was there and have the boot, after the crowd at this show and the first one in jersey , I think this will be the last time they end the tour in jersey, it's embarassing how quiet the crowd gets during the animal fiasco, it wasn't til matt starting thumping his drum that we made some noise and still it was nothing.

The singing was ok at best, lame crowd overall , band knew it. I think they had some special stuff planned but changed it up after the first set, he was not going to reward a lame crowd. He says they got in a minor beef over what they were going to play, with a better crowd I think we would have had a one of a kind show , instead it was just a damn good show.

So you think they had some special stuff planned but changed it eh? Rats and Don't Gimme no Lip. Best show out of the five I saw this tour.