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Wal-Mart workers plan Black Friday walkout

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    DS1119DS1119 Posts: 33,497
    Good luck with the walkout. :lol:
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    dignindignin Posts: 9,303
    DS1119 wrote:
    Good luck with the walkout. :lol:


    Thank you for your support
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    dignindignin Posts: 9,303
    36 reasons why you should thank a union


    Weekends without work

    All breaks at work, including your lunch breaks

    Paid vacation

    Family & Medical Leave Act (FMLA)

    Sick leave

    Social Security

    Minimum wage

    Civil Rights Act/Title VII - prohibits employer discrimination

    8-hour work day

    Overtime pay

    Child labor laws

    Occupational Safety & Health Act (OSHA)

    40-hour work week

    Workers’ compensation (workers’ comp)

    Unemployment insurance

    Pensions

    Workplace safety standards and regulations

    Employer health care insurance

    Collective bargaining rights for employees

    Wrongful termination laws

    Age Discrimination in Employment Act of 1967 (ADEA)

    Whistleblower protection laws

    Employee Polygraph Protection Act (EPPA) - prohibits employers from using a lie detector test on an employee

    Veteran's Employment and Training Services (VETS)

    Compensation increases and evaluations (i.e. raises)

    Sexual harassment laws

    Americans With Disabilities Act (ADA)

    Holiday pay

    Employer dental, life, and vision insurance

    Privacy rights

    Pregnancy and parental leave

    Military leave

    The right to strike

    Public education for children

    Equal Pay Acts of 1963 & 2011 - requires employers pay men and women equally for the same amount of work

    Laws ending sweatshops in the United States


    http://www.unionplus.org/about/labor-un ... hank-union
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    DS1119DS1119 Posts: 33,497
    dignin wrote:
    36 reasons why you should thank a union


    Weekends without work

    All breaks at work, including your lunch breaks

    Paid vacation

    Family & Medical Leave Act (FMLA)

    Sick leave

    Social Security

    Minimum wage

    Civil Rights Act/Title VII - prohibits employer discrimination

    8-hour work day

    Overtime pay

    Child labor laws

    Occupational Safety & Health Act (OSHA)

    40-hour work week

    Workers’ compensation (workers’ comp)

    Unemployment insurance

    Pensions

    Workplace safety standards and regulations

    Employer health care insurance

    Collective bargaining rights for employees

    Wrongful termination laws

    Age Discrimination in Employment Act of 1967 (ADEA)

    Whistleblower protection laws

    Employee Polygraph Protection Act (EPPA) - prohibits employers from using a lie detector test on an employee

    Veteran's Employment and Training Services (VETS)

    Compensation increases and evaluations (i.e. raises)

    Sexual harassment laws

    Americans With Disabilities Act (ADA)

    Holiday pay

    Employer dental, life, and vision insurance

    Privacy rights

    Pregnancy and parental leave

    Military leave

    The right to strike

    Public education for children

    Equal Pay Acts of 1963 & 2011 - requires employers pay men and women equally for the same amount of work

    Laws ending sweatshops in the United States


    http://www.unionplus.org/about/labor-un ... hank-union


    Will you also list the at least 36 reasons to not thank a union as well? :lol:
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    aerialaerial Posts: 2,319
    dignin wrote:
    36 reasons why you should thank a union


    Weekends without work

    All breaks at work, including your lunch breaks

    Paid vacation

    Family & Medical Leave Act (FMLA)

    Sick leave

    Social Security

    Minimum wage

    Civil Rights Act/Title VII - prohibits employer discrimination

    8-hour work day

    Overtime pay

    Child labor laws

    Occupational Safety & Health Act (OSHA)

    40-hour work week

    Workers’ compensation (workers’ comp)

    Unemployment insurance

    Pensions

    Workplace safety standards and regulations

    Employer health care insurance

    Collective bargaining rights for employees

    Wrongful termination laws

    Age Discrimination in Employment Act of 1967 (ADEA)

    Whistleblower protection laws

    Employee Polygraph Protection Act (EPPA) - prohibits employers from using a lie detector test on an employee

    Veteran's Employment and Training Services (VETS)

    Compensation increases and evaluations (i.e. raises)

    Sexual harassment laws

    Americans With Disabilities Act (ADA)

    Holiday pay

    Employer dental, life, and vision insurance

    Privacy rights

    Pregnancy and parental leave

    Military leave

    The right to strike

    Public education for children

    Equal Pay Acts of 1963 & 2011 - requires employers pay men and women equally for the same amount of work

    Laws ending sweatshops in the United States


    http://www.unionplus.org/about/labor-un ... hank-union


    Publix Supermarket has all the benefits you post except
    the right to strike ...plus they give employees stock, 4 bonus's a year, dividend pay out twice a year, and bereavement pay. The largest and fastest-growing employee-owned supermarket chain in the United States. Employees can retire a millionaire and they don't even have to go into management. NO unions.
    “We the people are the rightful masters of both Congress and the courts, not to overthrow the Constitution but to overthrow the men who pervert the Constitution.” Abraham Lincoln
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    cincybearcatcincybearcat Posts: 16,135
    I don't think anyone is arguing that unions didn't have their time and place. And done CEO compensation is certainly out of whack. But, giving the current version of the union credit for all of that is like giving the Republican Party credit for current environmental efforts....Nixon started the EPA.

    What is the purpose of a union today? To ensure their members aren't paid by merit? I doubt that unions ever thought they'd become another bureaucracy. But they have. And far too often it's more about protecting the union an it's leaders than the members. And in my personal experience, they have been all over the place, from actually helping safety to actively fighting against it, because they don't understand but are never willing to admit that.
    hippiemom = goodness
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    dignindignin Posts: 9,303
    DS1119 wrote:
    dignin wrote:
    36 reasons why you should thank a union


    Weekends without work

    All breaks at work, including your lunch breaks

    Paid vacation

    Family & Medical Leave Act (FMLA)

    Sick leave

    Social Security

    Minimum wage

    Civil Rights Act/Title VII - prohibits employer discrimination

    8-hour work day

    Overtime pay

    Child labor laws

    Occupational Safety & Health Act (OSHA)

    40-hour work week

    Workers’ compensation (workers’ comp)

    Unemployment insurance

    Pensions

    Workplace safety standards and regulations

    Employer health care insurance

    Collective bargaining rights for employees

    Wrongful termination laws

    Age Discrimination in Employment Act of 1967 (ADEA)

    Whistleblower protection laws

    Employee Polygraph Protection Act (EPPA) - prohibits employers from using a lie detector test on an employee

    Veteran's Employment and Training Services (VETS)

    Compensation increases and evaluations (i.e. raises)

    Sexual harassment laws

    Americans With Disabilities Act (ADA)

    Holiday pay

    Employer dental, life, and vision insurance

    Privacy rights

    Pregnancy and parental leave

    Military leave

    The right to strike

    Public education for children

    Equal Pay Acts of 1963 & 2011 - requires employers pay men and women equally for the same amount of work

    Laws ending sweatshops in the United States


    http://www.unionplus.org/about/labor-un ... hank-union


    Will you also list the at least 36 reasons to not thank a union as well? :lol:

    Can you?
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    dignindignin Posts: 9,303
    I don't think anyone is arguing that unions didn't have their time and place. And done CEO compensation is certainly out of whack. But, giving the current version of the union credit for all of that is like giving the Republican Party credit for current environmental efforts....Nixon started the EPA.

    What is the purpose of a union today? To ensure their members aren't paid by merit? I doubt that unions ever thought they'd become another bureaucracy. But they have. And far too often it's more about protecting the union an it's leaders than the members. And in my personal experience, they have been all over the place, from actually helping safety to actively fighting against it, because they don't understand but are never willing to admit that.

    I agree with what you are saying. I am under no illusions that unions are perfect, with any organization that has become old and comfortable there will be corruption. I have heard many terrible stories about unions. But, I believe that if you take away unions today we will go back to the practices of yesterday. With most companies you are are number and the bottom line is all that matters. I believe that some of the last lines of defense are the unions. I think we would be far worse off without them. Sometimes we have to take the good with the bad....for now at least.

    And I do think some here would like to pretend that unions have done nothing to help......I thought I would lay out some of the good, it's sometimes easy to forget.
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    dignindignin Posts: 9,303
    aerial wrote:
    dignin wrote:
    36 reasons why you should thank a union


    Weekends without work

    All breaks at work, including your lunch breaks

    Paid vacation

    Family & Medical Leave Act (FMLA)

    Sick leave

    Social Security

    Minimum wage

    Civil Rights Act/Title VII - prohibits employer discrimination

    8-hour work day

    Overtime pay

    Child labor laws

    Occupational Safety & Health Act (OSHA)

    40-hour work week

    Workers’ compensation (workers’ comp)

    Unemployment insurance

    Pensions

    Workplace safety standards and regulations

    Employer health care insurance

    Collective bargaining rights for employees

    Wrongful termination laws

    Age Discrimination in Employment Act of 1967 (ADEA)

    Whistleblower protection laws

    Employee Polygraph Protection Act (EPPA) - prohibits employers from using a lie detector test on an employee

    Veteran's Employment and Training Services (VETS)

    Compensation increases and evaluations (i.e. raises)

    Sexual harassment laws

    Americans With Disabilities Act (ADA)

    Holiday pay

    Employer dental, life, and vision insurance

    Privacy rights

    Pregnancy and parental leave

    Military leave

    The right to strike

    Public education for children

    Equal Pay Acts of 1963 & 2011 - requires employers pay men and women equally for the same amount of work

    Laws ending sweatshops in the United States


    http://www.unionplus.org/about/labor-un ... hank-union


    Publix Supermarket has all the benefits you post except
    the right to strike ...plus they give employees stock, 4 bonus's a year, dividend pay out twice a year, and bereavement pay. The largest and fastest-growing employee-owned supermarket chain in the United States. Employees can retire a millionaire and they don't even have to go into management. NO unions.

    That's good to hear. If Wal-Mart were willing to give these benefits to their employees they would have no reason to walk out. They are only asking for the same. Left with no other options they only have one option left, to organize.
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    DS1119DS1119 Posts: 33,497
    dignin wrote:
    DS1119 wrote:
    dignin wrote:
    36 reasons why you should thank a union


    Weekends without work

    All breaks at work, including your lunch breaks

    Paid vacation

    Family & Medical Leave Act (FMLA)

    Sick leave

    Social Security

    Minimum wage

    Civil Rights Act/Title VII - prohibits employer discrimination

    8-hour work day

    Overtime pay

    Child labor laws

    Occupational Safety & Health Act (OSHA)

    40-hour work week

    Workers’ compensation (workers’ comp)

    Unemployment insurance

    Pensions

    Workplace safety standards and regulations

    Employer health care insurance

    Collective bargaining rights for employees

    Wrongful termination laws

    Age Discrimination in Employment Act of 1967 (ADEA)

    Whistleblower protection laws

    Employee Polygraph Protection Act (EPPA) - prohibits employers from using a lie detector test on an employee

    Veteran's Employment and Training Services (VETS)

    Compensation increases and evaluations (i.e. raises)

    Sexual harassment laws

    Americans With Disabilities Act (ADA)

    Holiday pay

    Employer dental, life, and vision insurance

    Privacy rights

    Pregnancy and parental leave

    Military leave

    The right to strike

    Public education for children

    Equal Pay Acts of 1963 & 2011 - requires employers pay men and women equally for the same amount of work

    Laws ending sweatshops in the United States


    http://www.unionplus.org/about/labor-un ... hank-union


    Will you also list the at least 36 reasons to not thank a union as well? :lol:

    Can you?



    Where would you like me to start? :lol:
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    DS1119DS1119 Posts: 33,497

    What is the purpose of a union today? To ensure their members aren't paid by merit? I doubt that unions ever thought they'd become another bureaucracy.



    Yup. That's all they have become. I liken them to another level of government.
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    Kel VarnsenKel Varnsen Posts: 1,951
    dignin wrote:
    36 reasons why you should thank a union


    Weekends without work

    All breaks at work, including your lunch breaks

    Paid vacation

    Family & Medical Leave Act (FMLA)

    Sick leave

    Social Security

    Minimum wage

    Civil Rights Act/Title VII - prohibits employer discrimination

    8-hour work day

    Overtime pay

    Child labor laws

    Occupational Safety & Health Act (OSHA)

    40-hour work week

    Workers’ compensation (workers’ comp)

    Unemployment insurance

    Pensions

    Workplace safety standards and regulations

    Employer health care insurance

    Collective bargaining rights for employees

    Wrongful termination laws

    Age Discrimination in Employment Act of 1967 (ADEA)

    Whistleblower protection laws

    Employee Polygraph Protection Act (EPPA) - prohibits employers from using a lie detector test on an employee

    Veteran's Employment and Training Services (VETS)

    Compensation increases and evaluations (i.e. raises)

    Sexual harassment laws

    Americans With Disabilities Act (ADA)

    Holiday pay

    Employer dental, life, and vision insurance

    Privacy rights

    Pregnancy and parental leave

    Military leave

    The right to strike

    Public education for children

    Equal Pay Acts of 1963 & 2011 - requires employers pay men and women equally for the same amount of work

    Laws ending sweatshops in the United States


    http://www.unionplus.org/about/labor-un ... hank-union

    Don't forget Las Vegas, Without unions illegally funneling their pension money to the mob Las Vegas wouldn't exist,
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    DS1119DS1119 Posts: 33,497
    dignin wrote:
    36 reasons why you should thank a union


    Weekends without work

    All breaks at work, including your lunch breaks

    Paid vacation

    Family & Medical Leave Act (FMLA)

    Sick leave

    Social Security

    Minimum wage

    Civil Rights Act/Title VII - prohibits employer discrimination

    8-hour work day

    Overtime pay

    Child labor laws

    Occupational Safety & Health Act (OSHA)

    40-hour work week

    Workers’ compensation (workers’ comp)

    Unemployment insurance

    Pensions

    Workplace safety standards and regulations

    Employer health care insurance

    Collective bargaining rights for employees

    Wrongful termination laws

    Age Discrimination in Employment Act of 1967 (ADEA)

    Whistleblower protection laws

    Employee Polygraph Protection Act (EPPA) - prohibits employers from using a lie detector test on an employee

    Veteran's Employment and Training Services (VETS)

    Compensation increases and evaluations (i.e. raises)

    Sexual harassment laws

    Americans With Disabilities Act (ADA)

    Holiday pay

    Employer dental, life, and vision insurance

    Privacy rights

    Pregnancy and parental leave

    Military leave

    The right to strike

    Public education for children

    Equal Pay Acts of 1963 & 2011 - requires employers pay men and women equally for the same amount of work

    Laws ending sweatshops in the United States


    http://www.unionplus.org/about/labor-un ... hank-union

    Don't forget Las Vegas, Without unions illegally funneling their pension money to the mob Las Vegas wouldn't exist,


    Damn it. One reason I actually like unions. :lol::lol:
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    dignin wrote:

    That's good to hear. If Wal-Mart were willing to give these benefits to their employees they would have no reason to walk out. They are only asking for the same. Left with no other options they only have one option left, to organize.

    They should consider just not working for Wal-Mart.
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    HorosHoros Posts: 4,518
    dignin wrote:
    aerial wrote:

    Publix Supermarket has all the benefits you post except
    the right to strike ...plus they give employees stock, 4 bonus's a year, dividend pay out twice a year, and bereavement pay. The largest and fastest-growing employee-owned supermarket chain in the United States. Employees can retire a millionaire and they don't even have to go into management. NO unions.

    That's good to hear. If Wal-Mart were willing to give these benefits to their employees they would have no reason to walk out. They are only asking for the same. Left with no other options they only have one option left, to organize.
    My wife works for Wal-Mart and receives the same benefits listed for Publix.
    #FHP
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    dignindignin Posts: 9,303
    Horos wrote:
    dignin wrote:
    aerial wrote:

    Publix Supermarket has all the benefits you post except
    the right to strike ...plus they give employees stock, 4 bonus's a year, dividend pay out twice a year, and bereavement pay. The largest and fastest-growing employee-owned supermarket chain in the United States. Employees can retire a millionaire and they don't even have to go into management. NO unions.

    That's good to hear. If Wal-Mart were willing to give these benefits to their employees they would have no reason to walk out. They are only asking for the same. Left with no other options they only have one option left, to organize.
    My wife works for Wal-Mart and receives the same benefits listed for Publix.

    Interesting, I also worked at Wal-Mart while I was going to school, and we had no where near those benefits. But that was a while ago so maybe things have changed. Is she in a management position?
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    HorosHoros Posts: 4,518
    ^^^Just a full-time cashier. Took her about a year to get the full-time position.
    #FHP
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    pandorapandora Posts: 21,855
    I don't shop at Walmart, something bad always happens to me there :lol:
    I like target'

    it would be wonderful if business would appreciate their workers.
    I'd like to think most do.
    I have learned in business to put myself in our employees shoes,
    to think what I would want and need. To do little things like
    birthday treats and bonuses. Ask how someone feels about something in the shop
    but most of all listen, often they want to just talk about the family or stuff
    going on in their lives.

    Right now to bring everyone together,
    we are decorating the shop and each employee will have their favorite
    musician photos in the area they work.

    I bet ya'll can guess mine :mrgreen:
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    Kel VarnsenKel Varnsen Posts: 1,951
    DS1119 wrote:
    dignin wrote:
    36 reasons why you should thank a union


    Weekends without work

    All breaks at work, including your lunch breaks

    Paid vacation

    Family & Medical Leave Act (FMLA)

    Sick leave

    Social Security

    Minimum wage

    Civil Rights Act/Title VII - prohibits employer discrimination

    8-hour work day

    Overtime pay

    Child labor laws

    Occupational Safety & Health Act (OSHA)

    40-hour work week

    Workers’ compensation (workers’ comp)

    Unemployment insurance

    Pensions

    Workplace safety standards and regulations

    Employer health care insurance

    Collective bargaining rights for employees

    Wrongful termination laws

    Age Discrimination in Employment Act of 1967 (ADEA)

    Whistleblower protection laws

    Employee Polygraph Protection Act (EPPA) - prohibits employers from using a lie detector test on an employee

    Veteran's Employment and Training Services (VETS)

    Compensation increases and evaluations (i.e. raises)

    Sexual harassment laws

    Americans With Disabilities Act (ADA)

    Holiday pay

    Employer dental, life, and vision insurance

    Privacy rights

    Pregnancy and parental leave

    Military leave

    The right to strike

    Public education for children

    Equal Pay Acts of 1963 & 2011 - requires employers pay men and women equally for the same amount of work

    Laws ending sweatshops in the United States


    http://www.unionplus.org/about/labor-un ... hank-union

    Don't forget Las Vegas, Without unions illegally funneling their pension money to the mob Las Vegas wouldn't exist,


    Damn it. One reason I actually like unions. :lol::lol:

    Well that was more to show that unions aren't just all about helping the common worker. I imagine as part of those scams that the unions heads who helped get the mob that money made a ton of cash. I also read a book about the 5 crime families in NYC a few years ago. It was interesting to see how much of a hold they have on unions to the point where things like construction, laundry services and trash pick up in New York are significantly higher in New York compared to other similar sized cities. They mob has such a strong hold on the Fulton Fish market that restaurants would come and buy fresh fish, and if you weren't paying kickbacks to the family they made sure you didn't get fresh fish, and in turn fish prices in new york were like 20-30% higher than the rest of the US east coast.
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