"Fiscally conservative."

QuarterToTen

A heads up would have been nice.

http://www.examiner.com/article/mitt-ro ... b_articles

Your welcome Mitt.

CH156378

Thirty Bills Unpaid

This embodies the sentiments of the overwhelming majority of 'observers' of the election and why they shake their heads at the willingness of so many people to actually cast a vote for the guy.

I like the line: "This entire scenario is a window into the type of man Mitt Romney is at his core. When there is nothing to lose, and the cameras are not rolling, he is a ruthless individual."

Could you actually imagine him as the president?

blackredyellow

Is there campaign laws that address this? Stranding staffers in cities with no way home is a bit extreme, but I can't imagine that staffers could keep using the credit cards after campaigns are over. I mean, what would stop someone from having a great night on the town and buying a plane ticket for the Caribbean the next day?

But yeah, you'd think that there would be plans in place to notify staffers and make arrangements to get them home.

On a side note, where does any remaining campaign money go at this point (for either candidate)?

comebackgirl

He could have strapped them to the roof of his car to help get them home :think: Or maybe they could just call their parents and ask for money :problem: Not nice :nono:

norm

why didn't he outsource his campaign staff to china?

brianlux

Think this might hurt his chances for another go around in 2016? :fp:

gimmesometruth27

brianlux wrote:

Think this might hurt his chances for another go around in 2016? :fp:

he won't run again. he has been running for president since 2007. it is time for him to find a new occupation, as the role of "professional candidate" does not suit him too well anymore...

cincybearcat

gimmesometruth27 wrote:

brianlux wrote:

Think this might hurt his chances for another go around in 2016? :fp:

he won't run again. he has been running for president since 2007. it is time for him to find a new occupation, as the role of "professional candidate" does not suit him too well anymore...

Ironically enough, this is now the first time barrack hasn't been running for an election....he's the ultimate campaigner. Him and his team are good at it because its all they've done.

SatansFuton

blackredyellow wrote:

Is there campaign laws that address this? Stranding staffers in cities with no way home is a bit extreme, but I can't imagine that staffers could keep using the credit cards after campaigns are over. I mean, what would stop someone from having a great night on the town and buying a plane ticket for the Caribbean the next day?

But yeah, you'd think that there would be plans in place to notify staffers and make arrangements to get them home.

On a side note, where does any remaining campaign money go at this point (for either candidate)?

I was wondering about that myself. I was reading a story in which they kind of clarified, and they did not have to do that. The campaign as a business or whatever you call it, does not stop existing the moment the campaign is over. Paperwork has to be filed and bills paid, etc. This stuff with the credit cards began the night of the election, when some staffers tried to use it take a cab after the concession speech.

As for what happens to the money. They can return it (most don't), donate it to charity, and many other things, but the option that they'll most likely take is donating it to other campaigns. That money is probably going to be used in future GOP elections.

As for what keeps people from abusing them and taking a trip or something, it's basically the same thing that keeps most employees from abusing a company card, credit card abuse charges. Just because the Romney campaign is ending, it doesn't mean that these people wouldn't be held accountable for their charges. There's still a campaign treasurer that is going to be sorting out these dollars for a while.

And in all honesty, the treasurer is probably the one to blame. I doubt Mitt walked off stage and said, "cut off those cards", it was probably the guy whose job it is to take care of the funds that made that call. I'm just speculating though, he may have totally been a dick like that. And it's his election, so the buck stops with him, technically.

CH156378

November 10th, 2012

Mitt Romney sends note of thanks to supporters

Washington (CNN) - Mitt Romney sent a note Saturday to his campaign backers saying he and his wife "cannot thank you enough for supporting and believing in our cause."

"This was more than just a campaign - this was a national movement," he said. "Thank you for the work that you did - going across neighborhoods to knock on doors and put up yard signs. Thanks for making phone calls, coming to rallies, donating funds, and convincing friends and family to join our team."

He did not specifically address his loss or President Barack Obama in the message.

"We still believe that better days are ahead. It's up to us to rally together to renew America's promise and restore American greatness," the message said.

The message did not address Romney's future plans. He has told supporters that one immediate emphasis is to help find jobs for the 400 campaign staffers.

"From the bottom of our hearts, Ann and I thank you for your support, prayers, efforts, and vote. We are forever grateful to each and every one of you. Today's a new day. Keep believing in America," Romney wrote before ending it saying, "Thank You."

Thirty Bills Unpaid

CH156378 wrote:

November 10th, 2012

Mitt Romney sends note of thanks to supporters

Washington (CNN) - Mitt Romney sent a note Saturday to his campaign backers saying he and his wife "cannot thank you enough for supporting and believing in our cause."

"This was more than just a campaign - this was a national movement," he said. "Thank you for the work that you did - going across neighborhoods to knock on doors and put up yard signs. Thanks for making phone calls, coming to rallies, donating funds, and convincing friends and family to join our team."

He did not specifically address his loss or President Barack Obama in the message.

"We still believe that better days are ahead. It's up to us to rally together to renew America's promise and restore American greatness," the message said.

The message did not address Romney's future plans. He has told supporters that one immediate emphasis is to help find jobs for the 400 campaign staffers.

"From the bottom of our hearts, Ann and I thank you for your support, prayers, efforts, and vote. We are forever grateful to each and every one of you. Today's a new day. Keep believing in America," Romney wrote before ending it saying, "Thank You."

I think he did address his loss when he said, "We still believe that better days are ahead..."

Prince Of Dorkness

cincybearcat wrote:

Ironically enough, this is now the first time barrack hasn't been running for an election....he's the ultimate campaigner. Him and his team are good at it because its all they've done.

well, there was that four years where he was actually president and passed the health care bill, ended DADT, supported marriage equality, stopped his campaign to manage the response to the hurricane and stuff. Some of us liked that.

cincybearcat

Prince Of Dorkness wrote:

cincybearcat wrote:

Ironically enough, this is now the first time barrack hasn't been running for an election....he's the ultimate campaigner. Him and his team are good at it because its all they've done.

well, there was that four years where he was actually president and passed the health care bill, ended DADT, supported marriage equality, stopped his campaign to manage the response to the hurricane and stuff. Some of us liked that.

Seriously? It's the political game but don't pretend that Obama doesn't play it, because that is what he has done constantly.

Some good things for sure, but lets look closely at that list... Take all of 2 minutes to say " I support gay marriage" I guess maybe 4 since he has to explain why he didn't a few years ago.... Oh, campaigning????

Sandy happened the last week of the election...so now we've accounted for 1 week.

Anyhow, any president would be campaigning during that first term. It's the nature of the role, but you can't debt he's campaigned for 1 job just to get another the whole time and this is the first time he won't be, will be interesting to see what happens. You gotta give him and his team credit, they are terrific campaigners.

Prince Of Dorkness

cincybearcat wrote:

Some good things for sure, but lets look closely at that list... Take all of 2 minutes to say " I support gay marriage"

Hm... how long did it take the other 43 presidents to say that, then?

He also had to fight pretty long and hard to get rid of DADT since every single Republican fought pretty hard to make sure my brother could be thrown out of the military for being gay.

He's also done MANY things that turned around the US economy from the mess Republicans left it in.

(and that health care bill took ages to write and pass. A lots of work. I know you're upset that Barack Obama is now one of only 4 presidents in US history to get over 50% of the vote twice.. you're going to have to live with it.)

cincybearcat

Prince Of Dorkness wrote:

cincybearcat wrote:

Some good things for sure, but lets look closely at that list... Take all of 2 minutes to say " I support gay marriage"

Hm... how long did it take the other 43 presidents to say that, then?

He also had to fight pretty long and hard to get rid of DADT since every single Republican fought pretty hard to make sure my brother could be thrown out of the military for being gay.

He's also done MANY things that turned around the US economy from the mess Republicans left it in.

(and that health care bill took ages to write and pass. A lots of work. I know you're upset that Barack Obama is now one of only 4 presidents in US history to get over 50% of the vote twice.. you're going to have to live with it.)

I'm not really all that upset. It kinda pisses me off that we let someone who is running on taxing more win for sure. Way to bring back responsibility to the government. Hell, as I've said many times prior to the election and after, there some reasons why I'm glad he won. Let's play Obamacare out and see what happens. Better than nothing. Let's get the government out of marriage...while this won't happen, at least people like You and your husband are much closer to a country that not only accepts gay marriage, but embraces it.

Anyhow, you've always been angry and snarky, but usually with just enough humor thrown in that it actually pretty cool. Why the change? Why do you seem to refuse to actually read and comprehend what other people are writing instead of lumping everyone that disagrees into 1 bucket and attacking?

pandora

Prince Of Dorkness wrote:

cincybearcat wrote:

Some good things for sure, but lets look closely at that list... Take all of 2 minutes to say " I support gay marriage"

Hm... how long did it take the other 43 presidents to say that, then?

He also had to fight pretty long and hard to get rid of DADT since every single Republican fought pretty hard to make sure my brother could be thrown out of the military for being gay.

He's also done MANY things that turned around the US economy from the mess Republicans left it in.

(and that health care bill took ages to write and pass. A lots of work. I know you're upset that Barack Obama is now one of only 4 presidents in US history to get over 50% of the vote twice.. you're going to have to live with it.)

in the last century ... yes?

Prince Of Dorkness

cincybearcat wrote:

It kinda pisses me off that we let someone who is running on taxing more win for sure. Way to bring back responsibility to the government.

Although to a lot of us that IS being responsible.

The Clinton years brought us higher taxes and more regulation and years of unprecedented prosperity and growth. And a surplus... we actually had a surplus that was squandered with those Bush-era tax cuts. Which I think were pretty irresponsible.

at least people like You and your husband are much closer to a country that not only accepts gay marriage, but embraces it.

Hey you know... stop being nice to me, it's hard to fit you into one box. Geez.

Cosmo

I thought that was Paul Ryan I saw hitchhiking off of the 710 North in Long Beach last week.
...
I would have given him a lift... but, you know... hitchhikers... kinda sketchy these days. Sorry, Paul.

comebackgirl

Cosmo wrote:

I thought that was Paul Ryan I saw hitchhiking off of the 710 North in Long Beach last week.
...
I would have given him a lift... but, you know... hitchhikers... kinda sketchy these days. Sorry, Paul.

How rude :roll: You could have just strapped him to the roof of your car

pandora

Prince Of Dorkness wrote:

cincybearcat wrote:

It kinda pisses me off that we let someone who is running on taxing more win for sure. Way to bring back responsibility to the government.

Although to a lot of us that IS being responsible.

The Clinton years brought us higher taxes and more regulation and years of unprecedented prosperity and growth. And a surplus... we actually had a surplus that was squandered with those Bush-era tax cuts. Which I think were pretty irresponsible.

at least people like You and your husband are much closer to a country that not only accepts gay marriage, but embraces it.

Hey you know... stop being nice to me, it's hard to fit you into one box. Geez.

The Clinton years didn't involve unemployment like this
and small businesses who have suffered time and again being hit
knocked down to their knees and still barely holding on.

Or with the government providing for people at unsustainable levels
and business growth low, people and business unable to get loans,
and the housing market somebody's cruel joke....
back to Clinton again.

I think common sense tells us we are not going back to the 90's.
Seems to me the blues don't remember the Clinton years all that clearly either.
I remember the investment scams. I remember the economy slowing in his administration
by 1998 and having that reinforced by other small business owners and professionals.

But you know we all like to say... remember when...
sad part is we might think today was the good old days in years to come.
Ouch!