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SPEEDY MCCREADYSPEEDY MCCREADY Posts: 25,880
edited November 2012 in All Encompassing Trip
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Poor poor guy..
Who decided that abusing wild animals was a good way make a living...

Its a shame they destroyed one of the Grizzly's.
Take me piece by piece.....
Till there aint nothing left worth taking away from me.....
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  • QuarterToTenQuarterToTen Cincinnati, Ohio Posts: 3,642
    Wild animals instinctively defend their territory, even moreso if that territory
    is a captive state, or so it seems.

    Too bad the trainer invaded that territory.
    Nice shirt.
  • SPEEDY MCCREADYSPEEDY MCCREADY Posts: 25,880
    QuarterToTen wrote:
    Wild animals instinctively defend their territory, even moreso if that territory
    is a captive state, or so it seems.

    Too bad the trainer invaded that territory.
    Lets abuse and beat wild animals into submission, so they can balance big red balls on their nose's, and Grandma and Grandpa can bring the grandkids, and we can sell popcorn.
    Take me piece by piece.....
    Till there aint nothing left worth taking away from me.....
  • QuarterToTenQuarterToTen Cincinnati, Ohio Posts: 3,642
    SPEEDY MCCREADY wrote:
    QuarterToTen wrote:
    Wild animals instinctively defend their territory, even moreso if that territory
    is a captive state, or so it seems.

    Too bad the trainer invaded that territory.
    Lets abuse and beat wild animals into submission, so they can balance big red balls on their nose's, and Grandma and Grandpa can bring the grandkids, and we can sell popcorn.

    Breaking an animal's spirit to render them docile, for entertainment and for profit
    is absolutely abominable, not to mention cruelty at it's worse.

    How many humans would enjoy being beaten every time they step out of line?
    Nice shirt.
  • HorosHoros Posts: 4,518
    SPEEDY MCCREADY wrote:
    QuarterToTen wrote:
    Wild animals instinctively defend their territory, even moreso if that territory
    is a captive state, or so it seems.

    Too bad the trainer invaded that territory.
    Lets abuse and beat wild animals into submission, so they can balance big red balls on their nose's, and Grandma and Grandpa can bring the grandkids, and we can sell popcorn.
    :corn:
    #FHP
  • supersonicyearssupersonicyears Posts: 2,619
    Many years ago people weren't aware of how animals were trained for the circus etc. . With tv and the internet, people now know. I can't imagine going to a circus now.
    "In the age of darkness
    want to be enlightened"
  • RKCNDYRKCNDY Posts: 31,013
    supersonicyears wrote:
    Many years ago people weren't aware of how animals were trained for the circus etc. . With tv and the internet, people now know. I can't imagine going to a circus now.

    with all the current animal rights laws, I highly doubt that the circus still use the same tactics that the PETA members show when they protest the circuses now. Those videos are from the 70s and 80s.
    PETA likes to jump all over supposed 'facts' and blow things out of proportion.
    The joy of life comes from our encounters with new experiences, and hence there is no greater joy than to have an endlessly changing horizon, for each day to have a new and different sun.

    - Christopher McCandless
  • polaris_xpolaris_x Posts: 13,559
    RKCNDY wrote:
    with all the current animal rights laws, I highly doubt that the circus still use the same tactics that the PETA members show when they protest the circuses now. Those videos are from the 70s and 80s.
    PETA likes to jump all over supposed 'facts' and blow things out of proportion.

    you'd highly doubt ... but we're talking about money here and people are greedy and people will do whatever the cuss they want for said money ...

    marineland up here has been treating animals cruelly for years now and it's actually worse than one would imagine ...
  • lukin2006lukin2006 Posts: 9,087
    polaris_x wrote:
    RKCNDY wrote:
    with all the current animal rights laws, I highly doubt that the circus still use the same tactics that the PETA members show when they protest the circuses now. Those videos are from the 70s and 80s.
    PETA likes to jump all over supposed 'facts' and blow things out of proportion.

    you'd highly doubt ... but we're talking about money here and people are greedy and people will do whatever the cuss they want for said money ...

    marineland up here has been treating animals cruelly for years now and it's actually worse than one would imagine ...

    and now aren't they threatening to sue the trainer who talked?
    I have certain rules I live by ... My First Rule ... I don't believe anything the government tells me ... George Carlin

    "Life Is What Happens To You When Your Busy Making Other Plans" John Lennon
  • RKCNDYRKCNDY Posts: 31,013
    polaris_x wrote:

    you'd highly doubt ... but we're talking about money here and people are greedy and people will do whatever the cuss they want for said money ...

    marineland up here has been treating animals cruelly for years now and it's actually worse than one would imagine ...

    yes, I highly doubt. I am speaking for US laws, I don't know about Canadian laws. I worked in the animal industry for 5 years, PETA is NOT as highly regarded as you'd think.
    The joy of life comes from our encounters with new experiences, and hence there is no greater joy than to have an endlessly changing horizon, for each day to have a new and different sun.

    - Christopher McCandless
  • polaris_xpolaris_x Posts: 13,559
    lukin2006 wrote:
    and now aren't they threatening to sue the trainer who talked?

    yup ... just goes to show ...
  • polaris_xpolaris_x Posts: 13,559
    RKCNDY wrote:
    yes, I highly doubt. I am speaking for US laws, I don't know about Canadian laws. I worked in the animal industry for 5 years, PETA is NOT as highly regarded as you'd think.

    well ... it depends on how one views PETA and industry ... i don't really care for PETA to be quite honest but I do know that animals should not be held in cages especially animals like bears and dolphins and whales ... it doesn't take any organization to point that out ... all in the name of profits ...
  • rollingsrollings unknown Posts: 7,125
    RKCNDY wrote:
    supersonicyears wrote:
    Many years ago people weren't aware of how animals were trained for the circus etc. . With tv and the internet, people now know. I can't imagine going to a circus now.

    with all the current animal rights laws, I highly doubt that the circus still use the same tactics that the PETA members show when they protest the circuses now. Those videos are from the 70s and 80s.
    PETA likes to jump all over supposed 'facts' and blow things out of proportion.

    Sometime it takes "blown out of proportion" to bring things to people's attention. And if PETA only shows the worst of the worst, but accomplishes awareness of the horrificness of a caged animal's life, then good for PETA.

    Circuses that travel with caged animals should be against the law period. And that's even before considering what the training must be like. Are there monitored surveillance cameras on all of the animals all of the time? If not, then what good is a law that, when it comes down to it, there's still just the trainer and the animal behind closed doors.....and the "show must go on".

    Circuses with animal acts = cruelty.

    Tell your kids everyone.

    Why isn't this thread in the moving train?
  • RKCNDYRKCNDY Posts: 31,013
    rollings wrote:
    RKCNDY wrote:
    supersonicyears wrote:
    Many years ago people weren't aware of how animals were trained for the circus etc. . With tv and the internet, people now know. I can't imagine going to a circus now.

    with all the current animal rights laws, I highly doubt that the circus still use the same tactics that the PETA members show when they protest the circuses now. Those videos are from the 70s and 80s.
    PETA likes to jump all over supposed 'facts' and blow things out of proportion.

    Sometime it takes "blown out of proportion" to bring things to people's attention. And if PETA only shows the worst of the worst, but accomplishes awareness of the horrificness of a caged animal's life, then good for PETA.

    Circuses that travel with caged animals should be against the law period. And that's even before considering what the training must be like. Are there monitored surveillance cameras on all of the animals all of the time? If not, then what good is a law that, when it comes down to it, there's still just the trainer and the animal behind closed doors.....and the "show must go on".

    Circuses with animal acts = cruelty.

    Tell your kids everyone.

    Why isn't this thread in the moving train?

    I want to see 'undercover video' of how the animals are treated now, compare it to the videos they show that are from years ago. Is there video? PETA always sends someone in to work undercover. If there is no video, it's probably because there ISN'T anything to show.

    I'm willing to go to the circus and drill a PETA member about current video. In all honesty, PETA reminds me of all those abortion protesters that bomb clinics.
    The joy of life comes from our encounters with new experiences, and hence there is no greater joy than to have an endlessly changing horizon, for each day to have a new and different sun.

    - Christopher McCandless
  • rollingsrollings unknown Posts: 7,125
    RKCNDY wrote:
    rollings wrote:
    RKCNDY wrote:
    with all the current animal rights laws, I highly doubt that the circus still use the same tactics that the PETA members show when they protest the circuses now. Those videos are from the 70s and 80s.
    PETA likes to jump all over supposed 'facts' and blow things out of proportion.

    Sometime it takes "blown out of proportion" to bring things to people's attention. And if PETA only shows the worst of the worst, but accomplishes awareness of the horrificness of a caged animal's life, then good for PETA.

    Circuses that travel with caged animals should be against the law period. And that's even before considering what the training must be like. Are there monitored surveillance cameras on all of the animals all of the time? If not, then what good is a law that, when it comes down to it, there's still just the trainer and the animal behind closed doors.....and the "show must go on".

    Circuses with animal acts = cruelty.

    Tell your kids everyone.

    Why isn't this thread in the moving train?

    I want to see 'undercover video' of how the animals are treated now, compare it to the videos they show that are from years ago. Is there video? PETA always sends someone in to work undercover. If there is no video, it's probably because there ISN'T anything to show.

    I'm willing to go to the circus and drill a PETA member about current video. In all honesty, PETA reminds me of all those abortion protesters that bomb clinics.

    RKCNDY! You're so misinformed!
    There's undercover video all over the internet of recent undercover animal circus training....it's absolutely sickening.
    I mean even if you just think about it...
    the performing animals are wild animals.
    Their instinct is to get as far away from a censoredn.gifing circus as is animally possible

    The ONLY reason that the animals are this submissive is because they' are deathly afraid.
    and NO, they're NOT afraid of being yelled at.

    the videos show just how bad it really is.

    c'mon now.

    and the abortion clinic bombing comparison?

    PETA bombs places? or what harrm do they do? I haven't heard about this so I'm asking sincerely
  • DS1119DS1119 Posts: 33,497
    The circus is pretty cool.


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  • 8181 Needing a ride to Forest Hills and a ounce of weed. Please inquire within. Thanks. Or not. Posts: 58,276
    rollings wrote:
    PETA bombs places? or what harrm do they do? I haven't heard about this so I'm asking sincerely

    don't they throw paint onto coats?
    81 is now off the air

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  • rollingsrollings unknown Posts: 7,125
    81 wrote:
    rollings wrote:
    PETA bombs places? or what harrm do they do? I haven't heard about this so I'm asking sincerely

    don't they throw paint onto coats?

    haha yeah.

    compare with......don't they throw bombs into buildings?
  • RKCNDYRKCNDY Posts: 31,013
    rollings wrote:
    RKCNDY! You're so misinformed!
    There's undercover video all over the internet of recent undercover animal circus training....it's absolutely sickening.
    I mean even if you just think about it...
    the performing animals are wild animals.
    Their instinct is to get as far away from a censoredn.gifing circus as is animally possible

    The ONLY reason that the animals are this submissive is because they' are deathly afraid.
    and NO, they're NOT afraid of being yelled at.

    the videos show just how bad it really is.

    c'mon now.

    and the abortion clinic bombing comparison?

    PETA bombs places? or what harrm do they do? I haven't heard about this so I'm asking sincerely

    the last time I went to the circus (about 6 years ago), the PETA people were there scaring the little kids, "do you know what they do to the animals?!?" and they showed on their portable video screens old footage that has been around since the 80s to the kids. So I haven't seen any recent footage.

    PETA reminds me of the abortion clinic bombers because most of the 'facts' they spread are old and outdated. They present their 'beliefs' as 'facts' which in my mind is :nono: Also them scaring the little kids is unfair. Sure I don't like kids, but PETA doesn't need to make that experience traumatic for a kid.

    oh and this doesn't do much for PETA: http://www.theatlantic.com/health/archi ... ls/254130/

    looks like they have bombed labs too: http://www.squidoo.com/extreme-peta

    and as 81 said, they do throw red paint on people who are wearing fur.

    I am NOT for harming animals, but where do we stop at 'trained animals for entertainment'? Are horses okay? I mean, there is horse racing, isn't that cruel? Is taking a horse drawn carriage ride thru a downtown city cruel? (it can be considered entertainment). Is someone owning a falcon and having it fly around the stadium before a football game cruel?

    I'm only playing all sides of the argument, not trying to start anything.
    The joy of life comes from our encounters with new experiences, and hence there is no greater joy than to have an endlessly changing horizon, for each day to have a new and different sun.

    - Christopher McCandless
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