3rd Party Voters?

MayDay10

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I am proud to say I voted for Jill Stein.

all they need is 5% to win, really.

Jason P

I cast a woot, a loot, and a toot.

81

i voted none of the above.

i'm not kidding.

wrote it in.

wish i would have taken a pic

riotgrl

Just voted and I voted Jill Stein

polaris_x

if i had a vote - it would have been for stein ...

MayDay10

I watched the 3rd Party Debate last night and it convinced me 100% that the best candidates are on the sideline.

Stein and Johnson were killing it. They werent dodging any issue and were laying out their platforms with no shame.

We need these 3rd parties included more in typical Gov't to force more issues. I dont think the environment was mentioned 1x in the R vs D debates, Johnson would press Romney on how he is really going to reduce the deficit, and people would love to hear/consider Lib/Green foreign policy instead of unanimously 'agreed upon' drone attacks.

pandora

If the third parties can get more votes they can get more funding next time around.
This why, for me, it is not a wasted vote.

I wrestled long and hard, as many know here, much to their shagrin
It was then a pretty easy decision when I considered I both liked and disliked
the two party candidates. I also looked back over the last sixteen years and
thought yea this is not working. Always the word change used but no change.
Fool us once, fool us a millon times.

I refuse to be a part of a lessor than evils government. Something has to change.
I think the Libertarian philosophy would bring real change, freedoms.

And yes I know, also the end to the war on drugs ...
it's not working either.

What I have is faith and hope in people. If we are not herded like sheep we won't be sheep.

mikepegg44

pandora wrote:

If the third parties can get more votes they can get more funding next time around.
This why, for me, it is not a wasted vote.

I wrestled long and hard, as many know here, much to their shagrin
It was then a pretty easy decision when I considered I both liked and disliked
the two party candidates. I also looked back over the last sixteen years and
thought yea this is not working. Always the word change used but no change.
Fool us once, fool us a millon times.

I refuse to be a part of a lessor than evils government. Something has to change.
I think the Libertarian philosophy would bring real change, freedoms.

And yes I know, also the end to the war on drugs ...
it's not working either.

What I have is faith and hope in people. If we are not herded like sheep we won't be sheep.

For better or worse it would absolutely bring changes to our country.

I will be voting for Johnson today. Just not off work yet to do it. I had thought about writing in Ron Paul but I want to see the third parties gain some traction and support, even if it is one vote. They need to be included.

I think all those in non-swing states could have more of an effect on the election than those that are in swing states. they could take the opportunity of a forgone conclusion to start supporting their favorite "3rd" party. We need more voices heard in actual elected positions that don't fit the dem/rep mold.

norm

we need Instant Runoff Voting

peacefrompaul

Roger that

pjl44

Gary Johnson it was. Fingers crossed for 5%.

JimmyV

I've said this before but it is the honest truth: The vote I cast for Ralph Nader in 2000 was the worst vote I ever cast.

Drowned Out

MayDay10 wrote:

I watched the 3rd Party Debate last night and it convinced me 100% that the best candidates are on the sideline.

Stein and Johnson were killing it. They werent dodging any issue and were laying out their platforms with no shame.

We need these 3rd parties included more in typical Gov't to force more issues. I dont think the environment was mentioned 1x in the R vs D debates, Johnson would press Romney on how he is really going to reduce the deficit, and people would love to hear/consider Lib/Green foreign policy instead of unanimously 'agreed upon' drone attacks.

I totally forgot to post this link a few weeks back.......was happy to see Democracy Now! did this.....
http://www.democracynow.org/blog/2012/1 ... ur_special
As President Barack Obama and Republican nominee Mitt Romney squared off in their first debate, Democracy Now! produced a three-hour special, Expanding the Debate. We aired the Obama/Romney debate and paused after questions to include responses from two presidential contenders who were shut out of the official debate: Jill Stein of the Green Party and Rocky Anderson of the Justice Party.

The special broadcast also featured interviews with George Farah, founder and executive director of Open Debates, about how the Republican and Democratic parties secretly control the presidential debates; Vincent Harding, friend, colleague and former speechwriter of the Rev. Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr.; and Miriam Peña, executive director of the Colorado Progressive Coalition.

musicismylife78

i voted ron paul. Pretty disappointing even though like always I voted my conscience. Evidently im in a state that doesnt even register write in ballots, so essentially my vote doesnt even count. Yet another ridiculous thing about a 2 party system, is that it makes any vote outside of that paradigm not count.

As I said multiple times, as someone whos against the war, against torture, the patriot act, and militarism as well as the drug war, I had no choice but to vote outside the 2 party system

polaris_x

musicismylife78 wrote:

i voted ron paul. Pretty disappointing even though like always I voted my conscience. Evidently im in a state that doesnt even register write in ballots, so essentially my vote doesnt even count. Yet another ridiculous thing about a 2 party system, is that it makes any vote outside of that paradigm not count.

As I said multiple times, as someone whos against the war, against torture, the patriot act, and militarism as well as the drug war, I had no choice but to vote outside the 2 party system

then why not vote for stein or johnson?

JC29856

JimmyV wrote:

I've said this before but it is the honest truth: The vote I cast for Ralph Nader in 2000 was the worst vote I ever cast.

care to explain why?

peacefrompaul

musicismylife78 wrote:

i voted ron paul. Pretty disappointing even though like always I voted my conscience. Evidently im in a state that doesnt even register write in ballots, so essentially my vote doesnt even count. Yet another ridiculous thing about a 2 party system, is that it makes any vote outside of that paradigm not count.

As I said multiple times, as someone whos against the war, against torture, the patriot act, and militarism as well as the drug war, I had no choice but to vote outside the 2 party system

Have you by chance read this?

whygohome

peacefrompaul wrote:

musicismylife78 wrote:

i voted ron paul. Pretty disappointing even though like always I voted my conscience. Evidently im in a state that doesnt even register write in ballots, so essentially my vote doesnt even count. Yet another ridiculous thing about a 2 party system, is that it makes any vote outside of that paradigm not count.

As I said multiple times, as someone whos against the war, against torture, the patriot act, and militarism as well as the drug war, I had no choice but to vote outside the 2 party system

Have you by chance read this?

"Paradigm shift" is one of my favorite phrases. I've read excerpts and essays of Kuhn's, but haven't sat down to read this yet

peacefrompaul

whygohome wrote:

"Paradigm shift" is one of my favorite phrases. I've read excerpts and essays of Kuhn's, but haven't sat down to read this yet

I read a little over half of it for class... it's phenomenal. I'll finish it this summer!

Jeanwah

norm wrote:

we need Instant Runoff Voting

I'm with Norm.

polaris_x

well ... johnson finished 3rd and stein a distant 4th ...

none of these candidates got over 5,500 votes ...

surprised how low the overall 3rd party votes got considering there were really only a handful of battleground states ...

Jason P

polaris_x wrote:

well ... johnson finished 3rd and stein a distant 4th ...

none of these candidates got over 5,500 votes ...

surprised how low the overall 3rd party votes got considering there were really only a handful of battleground states ...

I figured Gary's Johnson would get 3% - 5% of the vote. He ended up w/ 1%.

Proper fucked, indeed ...

polaris_x

Jason P wrote:

I figured Gary's Johnson would get 3% - 5% of the vote. He ended up w/ 1%.

Proper fucked, indeed ...

i think a lot of the paul supporters voted for romney ...

Jason P

polaris_x wrote:

Jason P wrote:

I figured Gary's Johnson would get 3% - 5% of the vote. He ended up w/ 1%.

Proper fucked, indeed ...

i think a lot of the paul supporters voted for romney ...

Either that or they didn't vote.

Odd ... checking out the Google election results, I don't see any votes for Ron Paul. Rosanne Barr got 48,000 votes for fuck's sake.

"None of these Candidates" got 5,000 votes. 81's voice was heard. Kind of.

http://www.google.com/elections/ed/us/results

mikepegg44

polaris_x wrote:

well ... johnson finished 3rd and stein a distant 4th ...

none of these candidates got over 5,500 votes ...

surprised how low the overall 3rd party votes got considering there were really only a handful of battleground states ...

it takes way too much effort to find out what those candidates stand for, our "media" is terrible...I voted for Johnson and I am glad I did. I stared at my ballot for quite a while trying to talk myself out of writing in Ron Paul. I would have loved to vote for the guy but really hoped the lesser parties would gain some sort of steam. Here's to hoping.


I am not sure how many of you remember the great Basil Marceaux

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fnx-SqMYknI

but I promise you more people know who he is than know who ran on the libertarian, green, or justice party tickets...

mikepegg44

polaris_x wrote:

Jason P wrote:

I figured Gary's Johnson would get 3% - 5% of the vote. He ended up w/ 1%.

Proper fucked, indeed ...

i think a lot of the paul supporters voted for romney ...

I don't think they voted in the presidential election at all to be honest. It isn't like he was getting millions of voters in the primaries even...the republican party spent a lot of money and effort trying to marginalize those supporters. I know many in my local group didn't vote for a presidential candidate at all. And those that did wrote in Paul. To say he didn't get one vote just goes to show how much we should question the legitimacy of the counts for those third parties/write ins.

polaris_x

mikepegg44 wrote:

I don't think they voted in the presidential election at all to be honest. It isn't like he was getting millions of voters in the primaries even...the republican party spent a lot of money and effort trying to marginalize those supporters. I know many in my local group didn't vote for a presidential candidate at all. And those that did wrote in Paul. To say he didn't get one vote just goes to show how much we should question the legitimacy of the counts for those third parties/write ins.

really ... that's interesting ... do you know if any of the other people on the full list were write-in? .. outside of none of these candidates? ...

it wouldn't surprise me if something nefarious went on tho ...

mikepegg44

polaris_x wrote:

mikepegg44 wrote:

I don't think they voted in the presidential election at all to be honest. It isn't like he was getting millions of voters in the primaries even...the republican party spent a lot of money and effort trying to marginalize those supporters. I know many in my local group didn't vote for a presidential candidate at all. And those that did wrote in Paul. To say he didn't get one vote just goes to show how much we should question the legitimacy of the counts for those third parties/write ins.

really ... that's interesting ... do you know if any of the other people on the full list were write-in? .. outside of none of these candidates? ...

it wouldn't surprise me if something nefarious went on tho ...

hard to say, and I don't think it is necessarily nefarious, just not worth the time to accurately report them. I mean, with all the votes cast for the main two candidates, is it worth the time to count the few thousand that wrote in? probably not. I mean, my ballot gets put through an automated reader and is probably left in a stack unless there is a recount done by hand. Writing in Paul would have felt good to me, but the machine would have never tracked it and it would only have been seen if someone went through each and every ballot on election night

polaris_x

mikepegg44 wrote:

hard to say, and I don't think it is necessarily nefarious, just not worth the time to accurately report them. I mean, with all the votes cast for the main two candidates, is it worth the time to count the few thousand that wrote in? probably not. I mean, my ballot gets put through an automated reader and is probably left in a stack unless there is a recount done by hand. Writing in Paul would have felt good to me, but the machine would have never tracked it and it would only have been seen if someone went through each and every ballot on election night

frig ... they reported 503 for some guy ... why wouldn't paul supporters vote for johnson? ... i'm sure there are at least 5 million of ya across the country ...

MayDay10

Ron Paul blew it.


couldve made a real difference

The Juggler

MayDay10 wrote:

I watched the 3rd Party Debate last night and it convinced me 100% that the best candidates are on the sideline.

Stein and Johnson were killing it. They werent dodging any issue and were laying out their platforms with no shame.

We need these 3rd parties included more in typical Gov't to force more issues. I dont think the environment was mentioned 1x in the R vs D debates, Johnson would press Romney on how he is really going to reduce the deficit, and people would love to hear/consider Lib/Green foreign policy instead of unanimously 'agreed upon' drone attacks.

no real change will happen in this country until these 2 things happen:

1. more viable options for president are allowed to have their voices heard.
2. term limits are enacted in congress.

sadly, i think neither will ever happen. we are screwed.

we're like a middling nba team strapped by the salary cap with no conceivable way in the foreseeable future of getting over the hump.