I honestly am not suggesting superiority on the US part. I am sorry if that is how it is coming across, honestly. Wow. Plus the main point of Mr. Frum's article is, and I quote: Politicians of one party do not set voting schedules to favor their side and harm the other. Politicians do not move around voting places to gain advantages for themselves or to disadvantage their opponents. In fact, in almost no other country do politicians have any say in the administration of elections at all.
It is broken. It is screwy. We need a fix. My point comparing the other countries isn't USA is better, its just nobody I've ever talked to, worked with, conversed with is rushing to those countries because their voting methods are so superior. Again, sorry it isn't clear.
This is not an "us vs them" thing. I'm not being antagonistic. Please...calm down. Really. The US system is flawed.
happy election day
even if your point was to say that people aren't emigrating out of america because Canada's/Germany's/Britain's voting system is so superior, that's kind of a bizarre point to make.
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No kidding, I'll go find a Fox new report to show the exact opposite!!!
Doesn't change the fact that there are huge lines of minorities waiting in line to vote for hours.
that's what I was going to say......all the affluent white dudes in this thread saying "well I've never had a problem"...
So is there a campaign of intentional vote suppression and manipulation? Is it more prominent in black and hispanic neighbourhoods? and if so....does that point a finger more at the GOP than the dems? Or is that just something that pesky liberal media wants us to believe?
I follow freelance writer Greg Palast on fb.......he has a new book out called Billionaires and Ballot Bandits.....his status updates for the past few weeks have been about nothing but how fucked the system is: how blatantly the election can and is manipulated.
I won't bother posting all the links....but there are a ton of articles and lots of video footage of poll lineups a thousand long in Florida, five blocks deep in Ohio....articles about voting machine manipulation, last minute poll moves, manipulation of dead-voter purging, etc etc....search his fb page for a look....some pretty topical stuff. The book sounds interesting too.
I honestly am not suggesting superiority on the US part. I am sorry if that is how it is coming across, honestly. Wow. Plus the main point of Mr. Frum's article is, and I quote: Politicians of one party do not set voting schedules to favor their side and harm the other. Politicians do not move around voting places to gain advantages for themselves or to disadvantage their opponents. In fact, in almost no other country do politicians have any say in the administration of elections at all.
It is broken. It is screwy. We need a fix. My point comparing the other countries isn't USA is better, its just nobody I've ever talked to, worked with, conversed with is rushing to those countries because their voting methods are so superior. Again, sorry it isn't clear.
This is not an "us vs them" thing. I'm not being antagonistic. Please...calm down. Really. The US system is flawed.
happy election day
even if your point was to say that people aren't emigrating out of america because Canada's/Germany's/Britain's voting system is so superior, that's kind of a bizarre point to make.
Not to mention the comment that our leaders "don't go on to become one of (if not the single) most prominent and preeminent human beings on the face of Planet Earth".....because actually they do....(well, I'd argue that no politician is pre-eminent)....but after the POTUS, those leaders are among the most powerful in the world. Even if they weren't, this doesn't have much to do with the topic, so it seems like a bit of an out of place reminder of america's position as top dog....
Honestly PJFAN, it doesn't sound like you had any ill intent with your comments....but people who believe in american exceptionalism use these same arguments (numbers 1 and 2)for a lot of different issues, so it rubs some of us non-americans the wrong way (sometimes in a bit of a knee-jerk)....
that's what I was going to say......all the affluent white dudes in this thread saying "well I've never had a problem"...
So is there a campaign of intentional vote suppression and manipulation? Is it more prominent in black and hispanic neighbourhoods? and if so....does that point a finger more at the GOP than the dems? Or is that just something that pesky liberal media wants us to believe?
I follow freelance writer Greg Palast on fb.......he has a new book out called Billionaires and Ballot Bandits.....his status updates for the past few weeks have been about nothing but how fucked the system is: how blatantly the election can and is manipulated.
I won't bother posting all the links....but there are a ton of articles and lots of video footage of poll lineups a thousand long in Florida, five blocks deep in Ohio....articles about voting machine manipulation, last minute poll moves, manipulation of dead-voter purging, etc etc....search his fb page for a look....some pretty topical stuff. The book sounds interesting too.
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even if your point was to say that people aren't emigrating out of america because Canada's/Germany's/Britain's voting system is so superior, that's kind of a bizarre point to make.
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A lot of politicians are lawyers.
Casting the votes is pretty easy. The court system is the disgrace.
So is there a campaign of intentional vote suppression and manipulation? Is it more prominent in black and hispanic neighbourhoods? and if so....does that point a finger more at the GOP than the dems? Or is that just something that pesky liberal media wants us to believe?
I follow freelance writer Greg Palast on fb.......he has a new book out called Billionaires and Ballot Bandits.....his status updates for the past few weeks have been about nothing but how fucked the system is: how blatantly the election can and is manipulated.
I won't bother posting all the links....but there are a ton of articles and lots of video footage of poll lineups a thousand long in Florida, five blocks deep in Ohio....articles about voting machine manipulation, last minute poll moves, manipulation of dead-voter purging, etc etc....search his fb page for a look....some pretty topical stuff. The book sounds interesting too.
Honestly PJFAN, it doesn't sound like you had any ill intent with your comments....but people who believe in american exceptionalism use these same arguments (numbers 1 and 2)for a lot of different issues, so it rubs some of us non-americans the wrong way (sometimes in a bit of a knee-jerk)....
Thanks, I will check that out.
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Compared with other countries out there in the world ....
Your voting system is just fine. You have one. Win.
The point is that it can be better, much better.
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25 of your President's were lawyers...
"Life Is What Happens To You When Your Busy Making Other Plans" John Lennon
That's actually a lot less than I assumed.