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fear4freedomfear4freedom Posts: 920
edited November 2012 in A Moving Train
So now its confirmed that the WH was watching Benghazi unfold in real live time. They sat there and did nothing! There was help and backup within 30-45 minutes time and our men were calling for help and fire-fighting for almost 7 hours. WOW

Why did they do this? There was a cover up and a cover up of the cover up? Why? There is a good reason why!

We had resources in the region and the attack is unfolding. We have a calvary within an hour and they never showed! Our men pointed a laser at the enemy, giving up his position, for our aircraft to take out and it never did. Our men fought for 8 hours or more vs. 100 terrorists. Our men were trying to hold off the bad guys for two waves of attacks. The first wave was held off by two of our Seals! WOW The second wave of attacks overtook the embassy and our brave men. Our Seals were be-headed, our Ambassador was dragged through the streets like he was Kaddhaffi! Our Ambassador was a true good man who gave himself for the country of Libya! He also knew that he was risking his life being there.

The WH denied them 3 times! Obama said the day before that "Al Queda is decimated"! Obama has been spiking the football for weeks saying that "Bin Laden is dead and GM is alive"! That pissed off Al Queda to the point that they were all protesting saying "We are all Osama's, Obama" Direct message from radical Islamists who sympathize with Al Queda. Obama pissed them off!

Obama has blood on his hands, for a campaign slogan! People died and they tried to cover it up and use a fake video as an excuse! There is also more cover up and we need to get to the bottom of it!

Even the mothers of the Seals, think they are being mis-treated and lied to! They are not getting straight answers!
Theres no time like the present

A man that stands for nothing....will fall for anything!

All people need to do more on every level!
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  • BinFrogBinFrog Posts: 7,309
    I can't wait until Wednesday so I don't have to read to your crap 80 times a day.
    Bright eyed kid: "Wow Typo Man, you're the best!"
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  • fear4freedomfear4freedom Posts: 920
    BinFrog wrote:
    I can't wait until Wednesday so I don't have to read to your crap 80 times a day.

    wow you read me that many times? I havent posted in a few good days now....so you must really like what i have to say! Thanks! Oh by the way.....after the election.....ill post a little more than i do now!
    Theres no time like the present

    A man that stands for nothing....will fall for anything!

    All people need to do more on every level!
  • BinFrogBinFrog Posts: 7,309
    fear4freedom wrote:
    BinFrog wrote:
    I can't wait until Wednesday so I don't have to read to your crap 80 times a day.

    wow you read me that many times? I havent posted in a few good days now....so you must really like what i have to say! Thanks! Oh by the way.....after the election.....ill post a little more than i do now!

    I want to see more stuff like "LOL WOW!!!!" which leads me to feel like I am dealing with an intellectual equal.
    Bright eyed kid: "Wow Typo Man, you're the best!"
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  • fear4freedomfear4freedom Posts: 920
    BinFrog wrote:
    I can't wait until Wednesday so I don't have to read to your crap 80 times a day.

    also, you call this "crap" well what if this was your family who got killed this way? Dont you feel for these heroes? Is it possible to seek the truth, even when it hurts your cause? Do you have ANY honor?
    Theres no time like the present

    A man that stands for nothing....will fall for anything!

    All people need to do more on every level!
  • Thirty Bills UnpaidThirty Bills Unpaid Posts: 16,881
    fear4freedom wrote:
    BinFrog wrote:
    I can't wait until Wednesday so I don't have to read to your crap 80 times a day.

    wow you read me that many times? I havent posted in a few good days now....so you must really like what i have to say! Thanks! Oh by the way.....after the election.....ill post a little more than i do now!

    For your dignity I hope it's not eating crow.
    "My brain's a good brain!"
  • BinFrogBinFrog Posts: 7,309
    Do you have a coherent thought or message?
    Bright eyed kid: "Wow Typo Man, you're the best!"
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  • fear4freedomfear4freedom Posts: 920
    BinFrog wrote:
    Do you have a coherent thought or message?

    Yes the message is that I will stand with any Seal, Ambassador, hero, soldier anyday before I stand for any political ideology or side, even if it hurts my cause or my side.....THATS HONOR!
    Theres no time like the present

    A man that stands for nothing....will fall for anything!

    All people need to do more on every level!
  • BinFrogBinFrog Posts: 7,309
    fear4freedom wrote:
    BinFrog wrote:
    Do you have a coherent thought or message?

    Yes the message is that I will stand with any Seal, Ambassador, hero, soldier anyday before I stand for any political ideology or side, even if it hurts my cause or my side.....THATS HONOR!


    Caps lock off, and apostrophes are your friend.
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  • Thirty Bills UnpaidThirty Bills Unpaid Posts: 16,881
    fear4freedom wrote:
    BinFrog wrote:
    Do you have a coherent thought or message?

    Yes the message is that I will stand with any Seal, Ambassador, hero, soldier anyday before I stand for any political ideology or side, even if it hurts my cause or my side.....THATS HONOR!

    And where do you stand with them 'with honour'?

    On the front lines or from the comic book shop?

    If on the front lines... you have my respect and I'll shut up.
    "My brain's a good brain!"
  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 39,025
    fear4freedom wrote:
    So now its confirmed that the WH was watching Benghazi unfold in real live time. They sat there and did nothing! There was help and backup within 30-45 minutes time and our men were calling for help and fire-fighting for almost 7 hours. WOW

    Why did they do this? There was a cover up and a cover up of the cover up? Why? There is a good reason why!

    We had resources in the region and the attack is unfolding. We have a calvary within an hour and they never showed! Our men pointed a laser at the enemy, giving up his position, for our aircraft to take out and it never did. Our men fought for 8 hours or more vs. 100 terrorists. Our men were trying to hold off the bad guys for two waves of attacks. The first wave was held off by two of our Seals! WOW The second wave of attacks overtook the embassy and our brave men. Our Seals were be-headed, our Ambassador was dragged through the streets like he was Kaddhaffi! Our Ambassador was a true good man who gave himself for the country of Libya! He also knew that he was risking his life being there.

    The WH denied them 3 times! Obama said the day before that "Al Queda is decimated"! Obama has been spiking the football for weeks saying that "Bin Laden is dead and GM is alive"! That pissed off Al Queda to the point that they were all protesting saying "We are all Osama's, Obama" Direct message from radical Islamists who sympathize with Al Queda. Obama pissed them off!

    Obama has blood on his hands, for a campaign slogan! People died and they tried to cover it up and use a fake video as an excuse! There is also more cover up and we need to get to the bottom of it!

    Even the mothers of the Seals, think they are being mis-treated and lied to! They are not getting straight answers!

    Source? Link? Or are you trying to inflame and bait?

    Peace.
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  • gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 Posts: 23,303
    fear4freedom wrote:
    BinFrog wrote:
    Do you have a coherent thought or message?

    Yes the message is that I will stand with any Seal, Ambassador, hero, soldier anyday before I stand for any political ideology or side, even if it hurts my cause or my side.....THATS HONOR!
    so supporting romney, a man with ZERO foreign policy experience aside from offending all of our allies is honorable??

    :? :? :?
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    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • fear4freedomfear4freedom Posts: 920
    Halifax2TheMax wrote:
    fear4freedom wrote:
    So now its confirmed that the WH was watching Benghazi unfold in real live time. They sat there and did nothing! There was help and backup within 30-45 minutes time and our men were calling for help and fire-fighting for almost 7 hours. WOW

    Why did they do this? There was a cover up and a cover up of the cover up? Why? There is a good reason why!

    We had resources in the region and the attack is unfolding. We have a calvary within an hour and they never showed! Our men pointed a laser at the enemy, giving up his position, for our aircraft to take out and it never did. Our men fought for 8 hours or more vs. 100 terrorists. Our men were trying to hold off the bad guys for two waves of attacks. The first wave was held off by two of our Seals! WOW The second wave of attacks overtook the embassy and our brave men. Our Seals were be-headed, our Ambassador was dragged through the streets like he was Kaddhaffi! Our Ambassador was a true good man who gave himself for the country of Libya! He also knew that he was risking his life being there.

    The WH denied them 3 times! Obama said the day before that "Al Queda is decimated"! Obama has been spiking the football for weeks saying that "Bin Laden is dead and GM is alive"! That pissed off Al Queda to the point that they were all protesting saying "We are all Osama's, Obama" Direct message from radical Islamists who sympathize with Al Queda. Obama pissed them off!

    Obama has blood on his hands, for a campaign slogan! People died and they tried to cover it up and use a fake video as an excuse! There is also more cover up and we need to get to the bottom of it!

    Even the mothers of the Seals, think they are being mis-treated and lied to! They are not getting straight answers!

    Source? Link? Or are you trying to inflame and bait?

    Peace.

    first of all, if you think this inflames and baits, then you acknowledge that its very bad! So if it is true, which it is up to this point, means that its VERY BAD for Obama...and you have just acknowledged that!

    Secondly, not every post needs a source and link to carry out a conversation. I am the link and source! I am the OP and this news is everywhere that decides to report it. If you have not heard this info, then your news source is not telling you, cause they are in the tank for Obama, and dont want to make him look bad! Got it?
    Theres no time like the present

    A man that stands for nothing....will fall for anything!

    All people need to do more on every level!
  • fear4freedomfear4freedom Posts: 920
    gimmesometruth27 wrote:
    fear4freedom wrote:
    BinFrog wrote:
    Do you have a coherent thought or message?

    Yes the message is that I will stand with any Seal, Ambassador, hero, soldier anyday before I stand for any political ideology or side, even if it hurts my cause or my side.....THATS HONOR!
    so supporting romney, a man with ZERO foreign policy experience aside from offending all of our allies is honorable??

    :? :? :?

    You have just put your foot in your mouth, cause you already supported and VOTED for a guy that had zero foreign policy experience in Obama! DUH?
    Theres no time like the present

    A man that stands for nothing....will fall for anything!

    All people need to do more on every level!
  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 39,025
    We're not going to let fact checkers high jack this thread. No way, no how. Facts don't matter! Seek the truth! Its out there! Find it! Stand tall America! Outrage! Them! Socialist Islamophobia is real! Google it! Find the truth and march with me to a new American Century and eventually Millinium! Its only 88 years away! And then you'll know! See? Well, you should LOL! Now you're educated!

    Peace.
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  • fear4freedomfear4freedom Posts: 920
    Halifax2TheMax wrote:
    We're not going to let fact checkers high jack this thread. No way, no how. Facts don't matter! Seek the truth! Its out there! Find it! Stand tall America! Outrage! Them! Socialist Islamophobia is real! Google it! Find the truth and march with me to a new American Century and eventually Millinium! Its only 88 years away! And then you'll know! See? Well, you should LOL! Now you're educated!

    Peace.

    truth is....our two seals called for help 3 times....and they fought for 7 hrs thinking that we were on our way.....and noone ever came.....wow ....how sad....what have we become? Them guys got beheaded in the end! Damn.....if i was their mom or dad......i would be livid and crushed! Unreal!
    Theres no time like the present

    A man that stands for nothing....will fall for anything!

    All people need to do more on every level!
  • Prince Of DorknessPrince Of Dorkness Posts: 3,763
    RRP.gif

    If you can't back up your bullshit... don't barf it up here, please.

    Prove to us that these things happened and we can talk about it.

    Until then... no.
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  • Prince Of DorknessPrince Of Dorkness Posts: 3,763
    fear4freedom wrote:
    I am the link and source! I am the OP and this news is everywhere that decides to report it. If you have not heard this info, then your news source is not telling you, cause they are in the tank for Obama, and dont want to make him look bad! Got it?

    Ah.

    So you think that you can come here.. post this and have us believe it and have "a conversation" about it. And your proof is "I say so."

    that's... WOW LOL!!!
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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 39,025
    fear4freedom wrote:
    Halifax2TheMax wrote:
    We're not going to let fact checkers high jack this thread. No way, no how. Facts don't matter! Seek the truth! Its out there! Find it! Stand tall America! Outrage! Them! Socialist Islamophobia is real! Google it! Find the truth and march with me to a new American Century and eventually Millinium! Its only 88 years away! And then you'll know! See? Well, you should LOL! Now you're educated!

    Peace.

    truth is....our two seals called for help 3 times....and they fought for 7 hrs thinking that we were on our way.....and noone ever came.....wow ....how sad....what have we become? Them guys got beheaded in the end! Damn.....if i was their mom or dad......i would be livid and crushed! Unreal!

    Source? And I might ask, where was your outrage when 4,000 Americans weere killed in Iraq? Not to belittle or denigrate the death of our 4 Americans in Benghazi but why these and not those? And no one ever came? Really? You do realize that there were a greater number of Americans that were evacuated and didn't die, right? You know that, right? No one ever came? Resources weren't moved, redirected, no help was offered or given, right? Is that what you're claiming? Because if you are, I'd be willing to bet that there are a bunch of Navy Seals, CIA and others who would love to kick your ass for suggesting it.

    Talk about bullshit politics.

    Peace.
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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 39,025
    Hillary's testified so where's the faux outrage that she lied under oath. Or at least crossed her toes when she took said oath. 76% of those polled believe the Benghazi Committee is politically motivated. Trey Gowdy is still a putz.
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  • my2handsmy2hands Posts: 17,117
    edited October 2015
    Quick question... simple question... from a person that doesn't give a shit about the politics or the Red v. Blue horseshit that is helping destroy my country

    If they asked for more protection due to security threats, why not provide that protection?
    Post edited by my2hands on
  • Godfather.Godfather. Posts: 12,504
    fear4freedom said:



    BinFrog wrote:

    Do you have a coherent thought or message?


    Yes the message is that I will stand with any Seal, Ambassador, hero, soldier anyday before I stand for any political ideology or side, even if it hurts my cause or my side.....THATS HONOR!

    Amen !
    the train(some members) doesn't understand honor only what they believe in a utopian dream
    so no matter what evidence is presented there will be opposition and blame in another direction, sorry man that's just the way the train rolls.

    Godfather.

  • rgambsrgambs Posts: 13,576
    Godfather. said:

    fear4freedom said:



    BinFrog wrote:

    Do you have a coherent thought or message?


    Yes the message is that I will stand with any Seal, Ambassador, hero, soldier anyday before I stand for any political ideology or side, even if it hurts my cause or my side.....THATS HONOR!
    Amen !
    the train(some members) doesn't understand honor only what they believe in a utopian dream
    so no matter what evidence is presented there will be opposition and blame in another direction, sorry man that's just the way the train rolls.

    Godfather.



    Weak-ass fake patriotism has nothing to do with honor.
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  • Godfather.Godfather. Posts: 12,504
    rgambs said:

    Godfather. said:

    fear4freedom said:



    BinFrog wrote:

    Do you have a coherent thought or message?


    Yes the message is that I will stand with any Seal, Ambassador, hero, soldier anyday before I stand for any political ideology or side, even if it hurts my cause or my side.....THATS HONOR!
    Amen !
    the train(some members) doesn't understand honor only what they believe in a utopian dream
    so no matter what evidence is presented there will be opposition and blame in another direction, sorry man that's just the way the train rolls.

    Godfather.

    Weak-ass fake patriotism has nothing to do with honor.

    you seem to know a little about weak-ass patriotism....humor us please.

    Godfather.

  • JimmyVJimmyV Posts: 19,171
    my2hands said:

    Quick question... simple question... from a person that doesn't give a shit about the politics or the Red v. Blue horseshit that is helping destroy my country

    If they asked for more protection due to security threats, why not provide that protection?

    It's a good question. I think bureaucracy and red tape got in the way here like it does so often in government. This case is highlighted because of the attack, but I bet these kind of decisions are made all the time. Which is shameful when we are putting people into dangerous situations.
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  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 38,594
    GF, specifiic to Benghazi, unless they had what amounted to a military base with requisite arms of a base , then there really wasnt much more that could be done. The arms the attackers had plus the element of surprise are indefensible without full military presense, which would really be countrary to what diplomacy and diplomatic missions are about. Emabassies aren't necessarily guarded to the degree that would have prevented or mitagated what we saw in benghazi. further this wasnt even a permenant facility.

    This doesnt justify or minimize the loss, but they all knew the risk of that work.

    its really easy to say they asked for this or that. Until you provide a full accounting of the requests made, when they were made and for what reason they were made and a list of what was granted or denied and for what what reason they were granted or denied , you have no basis to make claims that it fell on deaf ears or were ignored out of hand.

    It becomes strictly bias against the adminsitration and sec of state at that time.

    THAT isnt standing with anybody but ideological bulshit. Wheres the "patriotism" in that?

    Shouldnt these particular deaths highlight what needs corrected so it becomes a better possiblity to prevent or gaurd against in the future? Because with our general foreign policy , it is sure to happen again.
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  • Godfather.Godfather. Posts: 12,504
    mickeyrat said:

    GF, specifiic to Benghazi, unless they had what amounted to a military base with requisite arms of a base , then there really wasnt much more that could be done. The arms the attackers had plus the element of surprise are indefensible without full military presense, which would really be countrary to what diplomacy and diplomatic missions are about. Emabassies aren't necessarily guarded to the degree that would have prevented or mitagated what we saw in benghazi. further this wasnt even a permenant facility.

    This doesnt justify or minimize the loss, but they all knew the risk of that work.

    its really easy to say they asked for this or that. Until you provide a full accounting of the requests made, when they were made and for what reason they were made and a list of what was granted or denied and for what what reason they were granted or denied , you have no basis to make claims that it fell on deaf ears or were ignored out of hand.

    It becomes strictly bias against the adminsitration and sec of state at that time.

    THAT isnt standing with anybody but ideological bulshit. Wheres the "patriotism" in that?

    Shouldnt these particular deaths highlight what needs corrected so it becomes a better possiblity to prevent or gaurd against in the future? Because with our general foreign policy , it is sure to happen again.

    thanks' man, a very understandable and reasonable reply.
    this all seems to boil down to "it happened on your watch" and it's great presidential mud for the other guy's to sling during an election period, what a shame that the lives lost are only remembered during this time, if Hell'ary is elected this issue will follow her for the rest of her career and if she is not it may just fade into media history.

    Godfather.

  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 38,594
    Godfather. said:

    mickeyrat said:

    GF, specifiic to Benghazi, unless they had what amounted to a military base with requisite arms of a base , then there really wasnt much more that could be done. The arms the attackers had plus the element of surprise are indefensible without full military presense, which would really be countrary to what diplomacy and diplomatic missions are about. Emabassies aren't necessarily guarded to the degree that would have prevented or mitagated what we saw in benghazi. further this wasnt even a permenant facility.

    This doesnt justify or minimize the loss, but they all knew the risk of that work.

    its really easy to say they asked for this or that. Until you provide a full accounting of the requests made, when they were made and for what reason they were made and a list of what was granted or denied and for what what reason they were granted or denied , you have no basis to make claims that it fell on deaf ears or were ignored out of hand.

    It becomes strictly bias against the adminsitration and sec of state at that time.

    THAT isnt standing with anybody but ideological bulshit. Wheres the "patriotism" in that?

    Shouldnt these particular deaths highlight what needs corrected so it becomes a better possiblity to prevent or gaurd against in the future? Because with our general foreign policy , it is sure to happen again.

    thanks' man, a very understandable and reasonable reply.
    this all seems to boil down to "it happened on your watch" and it's great presidential mud for the other guy's to sling during an election period, what a shame that the lives lost are only remembered during this time, if Hell'ary is elected this issue will follow her for the rest of her career and if she is not it may just fade into media history.

    Godfather.

    and yet the multiple hundreds, HUNDREDS, of dead that occured under Reagans watch from attacks like these or bombings are largely ignored. and HE only had ONE congressional investigaiton of ONE incident out of MANY that occured in the 8 years he was in office.

    so please, tell me again what all this was about?
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  • my2handsmy2hands Posts: 17,117
    JimmyV said:

    my2hands said:

    Quick question... simple question... from a person that doesn't give a shit about the politics or the Red v. Blue horseshit that is helping destroy my country

    If they asked for more protection due to security threats, why not provide that protection?

    It's a good question. I think bureaucracy and red tape got in the way here like it does so often in government. This case is highlighted because of the attack, but I bet these kind of decisions are made all the time. Which is shameful when we are putting people into dangerous situations.
    Absolutely

    Seems to me that common sense would say when the US embassy in Libya asks for more security, you provide that security. Anything else is incompetence, at the least

    that's my problem
  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 38,594
    edited October 2015
    mickeyrat said:

    Godfather. said:

    mickeyrat said:

    GF, specifiic to Benghazi, unless they had what amounted to a military base with requisite arms of a base , then there really wasnt much more that could be done. The arms the attackers had plus the element of surprise are indefensible without full military presense, which would really be countrary to what diplomacy and diplomatic missions are about. Emabassies aren't necessarily guarded to the degree that would have prevented or mitagated what we saw in benghazi. further this wasnt even a permenant facility.

    This doesnt justify or minimize the loss, but they all knew the risk of that work.

    its really easy to say they asked for this or that. Until you provide a full accounting of the requests made, when they were made and for what reason they were made and a list of what was granted or denied and for what what reason they were granted or denied , you have no basis to make claims that it fell on deaf ears or were ignored out of hand.

    It becomes strictly bias against the adminsitration and sec of state at that time.

    THAT isnt standing with anybody but ideological bulshit. Wheres the "patriotism" in that?

    Shouldnt these particular deaths highlight what needs corrected so it becomes a better possiblity to prevent or gaurd against in the future? Because with our general foreign policy , it is sure to happen again.

    thanks' man, a very understandable and reasonable reply.
    this all seems to boil down to "it happened on your watch" and it's great presidential mud for the other guy's to sling during an election period, what a shame that the lives lost are only remembered during this time, if Hell'ary is elected this issue will follow her for the rest of her career and if she is not it may just fade into media history.

    Godfather.

    and yet the multiple hundreds, HUNDREDS, of dead that occured under Reagans watch from attacks like these or bombings are largely ignored. and HE only had ONE congressional investigaiton of ONE incident out of MANY that occured in the 8 years he was in office.

    so please, tell me again what all this was about?
    GF, heres a list on wiki(whatever it may be worth) that list all attacks worldwide of embassies etc. By country n chronological order. soem have links contained with them to further explore. at least , if you are willing, each of the ones for the US and how many died , and what was investigated etc.


    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_attacks_on_diplomatic_missions
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  • callencallen Posts: 6,388
    Republicans came under intense pressure to survive once Obama was elected that they've become blithering idiots in attempt to keep our country in status quo of wars and corporate profits as this is what butters their bread.

    The birther crap, Bengazi, Iran peace deal, HEALTHCARE, guns, planned parenthood.

    Be interesting to see if we continue shift left or snap back.
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