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OBAMA'S RING: 'THERE IS NO GOD BUT ALLAH'
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OBAMA'S RING: 'THERE IS NO GOD BUT ALLAH'
NEW YORK – As a student at Harvard Law School, then-bachelor Barack Obama’s practice of wearing a gold band on his wedding-ring finger puzzled his colleagues.
Now, newly published photographs of Obama from the 1980s show that the ring Obama wore on his wedding-ring finger as an unmarried student is the same ring Michelle Robinson put on his finger at the couple’s wedding ceremony in 1992.
Moreover, according to Arabic-language and Islamic experts, the ring Obama has been wearing for more than 30 years is adorned with the first part of the Islamic declaration of faith, the Shahada: “There is no god except Allah.”
There are none so blind as those who will not see. The most deluded people are those who choose to ignore that which they already know….1546 John Haywood.
http://www.wnd.com/2012/10/obamas-ring-there-is-no-god-but-allah/
http://www.theblaze.com/stories/does-obamas-mystery-ring-really-have-there-is-no-god-except-allah-inscribed-in-arabic/
NEW YORK – As a student at Harvard Law School, then-bachelor Barack Obama’s practice of wearing a gold band on his wedding-ring finger puzzled his colleagues.
Now, newly published photographs of Obama from the 1980s show that the ring Obama wore on his wedding-ring finger as an unmarried student is the same ring Michelle Robinson put on his finger at the couple’s wedding ceremony in 1992.
Moreover, according to Arabic-language and Islamic experts, the ring Obama has been wearing for more than 30 years is adorned with the first part of the Islamic declaration of faith, the Shahada: “There is no god except Allah.”
There are none so blind as those who will not see. The most deluded people are those who choose to ignore that which they already know….1546 John Haywood.
http://www.wnd.com/2012/10/obamas-ring-there-is-no-god-but-allah/
http://www.theblaze.com/stories/does-obamas-mystery-ring-really-have-there-is-no-god-except-allah-inscribed-in-arabic/
“We the people are the rightful masters of both Congress and the courts, not to overthrow the Constitution but to overthrow the men who pervert the Constitution.” Abraham Lincoln
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"Becoming a Bruce fan is like hitting puberty as a musical fan. It's inevitable." - dcfaithful
One and done. Later dude, get a job off the tit!
And would a Muslim president be a bad thing? Why or why not? (ariel or mamasan)
I asked a question like you always do. Cool huh.
Emoticon.
"Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
Can Muslims be good Americans?
Dr. Abdulaziz Sachedina
I will endeavor to respond to the questions below, as briefly and succinctly as possible. Some issues are polemical in intent and are simply to provoke rather than seek clarification. And, yet, I have not shied away from responding to these baseless attributions to Muslims.
Can a devout Muslim be an American patriot and a loyal citizen? Consider this:
Theologically, no. Because his allegiance is to Allah, the moon god of Arabia.
In the Qur'an, we read that the earth in its entirety belongs to God, and humans can settle anywhere as long as they do not encroach on the rights of others to that piece of land where they will settle. As such, wherever Muslims live, they have the responsibility to defend the community and take care of the environment and other related matters for the good of all. "Patriotism", in the sense of "love for a place where one lives and has a home and family" is part of one's faith in Islam. Hence, "loyalty" and "patriotism" to one's country of residence is an obligation that stems from one's faith commitment. "Allegiance" to God means allegiance to the betterment of this earth and its inhabitants without the extremes of negative nationalism and patriotisms.
Scripturally, no. Because his allegiance is to the five pillars of Islam and the Quran (Koran). Geographically, no. Because his allegiance is to Mecca, to which he turns in prayer five times a day.
In Islam there is no concept of Promised Land to which one day all Muslims must return before the Final Days. There is no allegiance to any part of the earth, not even to Mecca. Allegiance is only to God, the Creator and Sustainer of the Universe. No Muslim has "allegiance" to the Five Pillars. The Five Pillars are nothing more than the means to show one's obedience to God. Mecca is important simply because it has one of the holiest places of worship - mosques - built by Prophet Abraham and his son Ismael. No Muslim ever dreams of returning to Mecca for permanent residence. There is always a desire to visit and to worship God in the sanctuary.
Socially, no. Because his allegiance to Islam forbids him to make friends with Christians or Jews.
Again, there is no "allegiance" to Islam. There is faith in God and "Islam" is an act of submission to God's will that requires Muslims to live in peace with all communities on earth, including the Jews and the Christians. However, if any group of humanity engages in hostility against Muslims then they are required to defend themselves. There is no blind friendship or loyalty in Islam. If friendship to any human being, regardless whether that person is a Muslim, Jew, or Christian leads to corruption in society, then Muslims are to shun such company and loyalty.
Politically, no. Because he must submit to the mullah (spiritual leaders), who teach annihilation of Israel and destruction of America, the great Satan.
In Islam there is neither "church" nor "priesthood." No Muslim has an obligation to follow a scholar (Mullah) who teaches hatred and harm to others. To the contrary, it is the duty of Muslims to follow the leaders who represent the moral and spiritual values of Islam. No one can stand indifferent to injustice in the world and regard himself or herself as a member of the human community, let alone of the Muslim community. At the same time, Muslims must always be alert and prepared to face the hostility and irrational attitude of other peoples. It is Satanic to demonize other human beings - whether it is done religiously or politically; whether it comes in the form of religious bigotry, or social and political discrimination.
Domestically, no, because he is instructed to marry four women and beat and scourge his wife when she disobeys him (Quran 4:34).
There is no such blanket obligation in the Qur'an to marry four wives. The quoted verse occurs in the context of orphan girls under the custody of a guardian who, in the interest of preserving the property of the orphan girls, is instructed to marry one, two, three or four, provided he can treat them justly. Islam did not invent polygamy. It existed before it in every religion and civilization, and Islam is the first religion to actually limit the number of wives to four. The Qur'an also underscores the reality in spousal relationship that treating with justice among multiple wives is impossible, and, therefore, a Muslim is advised to stick to one wife. The question of honor of the home is extremely central to the Qur'an and therefore, whether it is a woman who is unfaithful to her husband or a husband who is unfaithful to his wife (Q. 4:128), the matter deserves to be resolved quickly to preserve the sanctity of the family.
Religiously, no. Because no other religion is accepted by his Allah except Islam (Quran, 2:256)
Quite to the contrary, of all the three Abrahamic scriptures, it is only in the Qur'an that Judaism, Christianity and Islam are treated as equally capable of guiding and saving their own flocks. God has no problem with any religion because there is only true faith that leads different peoples of the world to their Creator. It is a problem when different faith communities teach discrimination against others. In the record of the world history, one needs to examine whether it was Islam or any other religion that had problem with coexistence with other communities. The record of Islamic civilization is clear and open for anyone needing evidence of tolerance and acceptance of other faiths and peoples.
Intellectually, no, because he cannot accept the American Constitution since it is based on Biblical principles and he believes the Bible to be corrupt.
The Constitution of the United States of America is based on universal values taught by all Abrahamic religions, including Christianity and Islam. All religions, at one time or another, have suffered distortions in the hands of their own followers. No religious tradition is immune from such corruptive influences of some in their midst. It is self-righteous to point fingers at others while forgetting the ugliest anti-Semitic images that have haunted Western societies in the last century in the heart of Europe and other regions of the world. The American constitution is as much Islamic, as it is Christian, and Muslim Americans are proud of our constitution and our democracy.
Philosophically, no, because Islam, Muhammad, and the Quran do not allow freedom of religion and _expression.
Nothing can be farther from the truth. In fact, the Qur'an declares in no uncertain terms: "There shall be no compulsion in religion" (Q. 2:256). Philosophically, the Qur'an laid down the foundation of "natural religion" (fitrat) with which God has created all human beings. It also made sure that complete freedom existed for all humans to choose their faith and spiritual destiny. The Prophet set examples for his community to handle the fact of diversity of faiths, requiring Muslims to recognize and respect God's decision in the matter of allowing various faith communities to exist with each other and even with those who choose not to believe in God at all.
Democracy and Islam cannot co-exist. Every Muslim government is either dictatorial or autocratic.
The correct statement would read like this: Islam and democracy are compatible and can coexist because Islam organizes humanity on the basis of the rule of law and human dignity. But contemporary Muslim governments, in order to remain in power and exercise absolute control over the financial and other resources of their respective countries, have abandoned these teachings of democratic governance and accountability to law. These oppressive and tyrannical regimes are not Islamic, but usually driven by secular and even anti-Islamic ideologies.
Spiritually, no, because when we declare "one nation under God," the Christian's God is loving and kind, while Allah is NEVER referred to as our heavenly father, nor is he ever called love in the Quran's 99 excellent names.
One of the most beautiful names of God is "the Compassionate, the Merciful", which Muslims repeat at least 17 times a day. If Love cannot translate into "compassion or mercy," then it is an abstraction without meaning or application. In the Qur'an God has prescribed mercy for Himself (Q. 6:54), and that means that in dealing with humanity God will always show consideration as it improves itself to establish justice on earth. Muslims believe that they live under the God of Abraham, Moses, Jesus and Muhammad. That God is Trustworthy, Merciful, Compassionate and Loving God who cares for all human beings more than their own mother. Islam does not encourage turning God into a political statement since humans cannot possess God. They can simply relate themselves to God by emulating God's compassion and forgiveness.
Therefore after much study and deliberation....perhaps we should be very suspicious of ALL MUSLIMS in this country. They obviously cannot be both good Muslims and good Americans. Call it what you wish...it's still the truth. If you find yourself intellectually in agreement with the above, perhaps you will share this with your friends. The more who understand this, the better it will be for our country.
No honest study about any faith on earth can lead to such distortions about the religious and cultural "other." Muslims like any other peoples who inhabit the USA can love this country or any other country where they settle, without hating others.
"Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
"Becoming a Bruce fan is like hitting puberty as a musical fan. It's inevitable." - dcfaithful
Hey, if I clicked I may as well say something... right?
did you see what rick james did to charlie murphy's forehead with that thing??
:ugeek:
"Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
"Becoming a Bruce fan is like hitting puberty as a musical fan. It's inevitable." - dcfaithful
I wake up every morning scared s#@tless knowing that I live in the same country as people who believe this garbage.
And are dumb enough to believe that shit, you're also the kind of person who would be dumb enough to believe this shit...
And are probably the kind of numb-skull who does this shit...
And will also be clueless enough to vote for Mitt Romney, who believes that he's from the planet Kolob.
If this report had any merit to it, it would have been out years ago, not a month before the election, when there's little time to dispel it. How could it be that it was just now realized that this ring that Obama's been wearing for years is proof that he is a secret Muslim?
If Obama is a Muslim, then he is committing a major sin against that religion by claiming he is not a Muslim. What Muslim practices in secret?
What Muslim attends a Christian church with his family? http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/20 ... to-church/
Is all that church-going just a ruse? If Obama is so good at pretending to be a Christian, why would he wear this ring if it makes it so obvious that he is a Muslim?
No one here is an expert on that ring... people can believe what they want, but if you believe that ring proves he is a secret Muslim, do you also believe that a Muslim can be a Muslim in secret? Because no such thing exists.
Three Rings for the Elven-kings under the sky,
Seven for the Dwarf-lords in their halls of stone,
Nine for Mortal Men doomed to die,
One for the Dark Lord on his dark throne,
In the Land of Washington D.C. where the Shadows lie,
One ring to rule them all, one ring to find them,
One ring to bring them all and in the darkness bind them
In the Land of Washington D.C. where the Shadows lie.
The ring inscribed in black speech reads:
Ash nazg durbatulûk,
Ash nazg gimbatul,
Ash nazg thrakatulûk
Agh burzum-ishi krimpatul
Translated into English, it reads:
One Ring to rule them all,
One Ring to find them,
One Ring to bring them all,
And in the darkness bind them.
i challenge you not to stoop to this level!
They can do what ever they have to to kill the infidels....
They are not supposed to drink alcohol....the 1st 9/11 terrorist drank alcohol at the titty bar they were at in Florida. Another thing they are not supposed to do. They are not supposed to wear gold, but they do....seems the only thing they do follow is kill the infidels!....... because there religion says they may lie if that's what it takes to kill the infidels.
I also know Muslims that are nice people, I bet the guys training the terrorist to be pilots thought there students were nice guys. Does that mean we should forget that the extremist said they would take down America from the inside?
When you infiltrate the government you can't be a bad guy....you got to be a person that acts concerned for Americans, right? But look at all the lies Obama has been caught saying. The most recent one, "It was because of a movie" knowing all the time it was NOT! How many social security numbers does this man have? So many questions about this man. Not to mention the people that he chose as friends and associates.
By the way I do not expect this thread to last long. Every thread concerning Muslims barely last a day......Why is that?
Because of the racist, ill informed, uneducated, offensive shit that gets spouted by idiots that fear their own shadow, but believe that if they use big words or post articles, supporting their hate, that the world will somehow take them more seriously.
Warning: stupidity can be contagious
There is no hate or racism on my part.....just a wide awake CONCERNED American citizen that does not have blinders on.
Oh wait, I am so sorry, for a minute I took that as a personal attack but now I see you were referring to the lib's on the MT.
:thumbup:
Pathetic Pearl Jam fans ...
I used to wear a ring that had a big sparkly hello kitty on it (pretty sure I still have it somewhere). Relevance? Oh...that's right...there is none
"I need your strength for me to be strong...I need your love to feel loved"
I think this whole thread is repulsive because the motivation for focusing on a RING seems to be hate. The subject is brought up because somehow this ring represents evil to you. It's just a ring.
This country is supposed to be a place that people can freely worship God. Whether it's a Jewish God, or a Christian God or Allah is not supposed to be an issue!
You're trying to imply that if he doesn't have a ring that represents the "right" God, there is a problem. That's where I see the hate.
The fundamental suspicion of evil is hard to miss in this topic! Can't we stop this hate?
The point is, is he lying again when he says he is a Christian? If he believes in the Bible why does he wear this ring? If he believes in the Koran why not say that?