Wash Lyrics

PJ_Soul

:shock: So you decided on a $9,999.99 price tag??? :shock: Don't gorgeous guitars signed by the whole band go for less than that?

Wilds

PJ_Soul wrote:

:shock: So you decided on a $9,999.99 price tag??? :shock: Don't gorgeous guitars signed by the whole band go for less than that?

Yeah. the dude is a bit ahead of himself with the price.

Actual lyrics for "I got id" authenticated by Eddie sold for about $1,200.00 in 2006. These were not reminder lyrics for a show. These were actual lyrics torn from his notebook, and came with his autograph and a bunch of other cool shit.

Now I think these went for much too low, and would probably fetch somewhere around $5000.00 I would guess now a days.

But I don't think the OP's "lyrics" from that show are worth much more than 1K-2K, and perhaps no more than a few hundred dollars. If I was brimming with cash, I would probably go no higher than $800.00 for the Wash lyrics.

http://www.americanmemorabilia.com/Auction_Item.asp?Auction_ID=20463

PJ_Soul

Wilds wrote:

PJ_Soul wrote:

:shock: So you decided on a $9,999.99 price tag??? :shock: Don't gorgeous guitars signed by the whole band go for less than that?

Yeah. the dude is a bit ahead of himself with the price.

Actual lyrics for "I got id" authenticated by Eddie sold for about $1,200.00 in 2006. These were not reminder lyrics for a show. These were actual lyrics torn from his notebook, and came with his autograph and a bunch of other cool shit.

Now I think these went for much too low, and would probably fetch somewhere around $5000.00 I would guess now a days.

But I don't think the OP's "lyrics" from that show are worth much more than 1K-2K, and perhaps no more than a few hundred dollars. If I was brimming with cash, I would probably go no higher than $800.00 for the Wash lyrics.

http://www.americanmemorabilia.com/Auction_Item.asp?Auction_ID=20463

Yeah, it's just the lyrics scrawled in a box lid the day of the show in 2004. Ed obviously just wanted to make sure he remembered the lyrics and wrote them down before going on stage. He's priced it as though they are the original lyrics from the day he made them up... in the presence of the president of the united states of america, who also signed the lyrics for good measure. This item couldn't be worth more than a few hundred bucks plus the cost of the frame..... if anyone pays more than that I'll be irritated. Sorry OP.

why now u dont bitching

Holy shit. Ten grand? Worse than that, $21,999.00 for an autographed Lebron card.... I hope for your sake you don't really need the money that badly, and it's just, you know...greed.

dimitrispearljam

why now u dont bitching wrote:

Holy shit. Ten grand? Worse than that, $21,999.00 for an autographed Lebron card.... I hope for your sake you don't really need the money that badly, and it's just, you know...greed.

best user name of all times......

Murderers.

Yeah, his price is a joke. Don't get me wrong, a very sweet item but the basketball up for 4k is better than this ten fold imho. I'd say this is worth more like 1-2k. If you really need the cash, being greedy won't get you it. If I were you I'd keep this on your wall for the rest of your life, would be worth more than the money to me.

phishphood318

why now u dont bitching wrote:

Holy shit. Ten grand? Worse than that, $21,999.00 for an autographed Lebron card.... I hope for your sake you don't really need the money that badly, and it's just, you know...greed.

So for the record that Lebron James card I got an offer today for $16,500 so get your facts straight before you speak. Go get a Beckett and you can see for yourself. I know this is a Pearl Jam board but I just want to explain to you that you have no clue what the fuck your talking about. That is the most sought after rookie card produced for Lebron James. It was made by Upper Deck, and that year they introduced the product Upper Deck Exquisite. They were $500 dollars a box, which was only 5 cards in one box (One pack per box). Go look online for the boxes they are going anywhere from 8k-10k now just for a box. So Mr. Know-it-all please go back to flaming me for no reason because I did something to you.

I know the price I put on the "Wash Lyrics" was never going to be reached. But I will state that some of your opinions are just flawed. Because he wrote it before a concert and on a shoebox makes it less valuable? It is hand written by Eddie Vedder with his initials EV on the bottom. I understand it is more valuable to me. As you can see by my price I am really honestly not looking to sell the piece. I was just trying to get some offers to see the realistic value of the piece. You see you can offer me any value you want not just $9,999. I put it at such a high value to make it on top of the list when you search pearl jam highest price items. I guess I put the price to high. But it looks like I got you guys to talk about me so great news for me.

Just curious why did you some of you choose to mock me instead just ask me a question on why the price was so high on eBay. I would have explained myself, because at first I did come on this board for some input. I barely come on this board, and this is one of my reasons why. I get made fun of my Lebron James card but what does that have to do with this topic on a Pearl Jam message board.

KN219077

I may be one of the few people that actually would suggest slapping a ridiculous price on it first to see if anyone was willing to put up that kind of cash. You're not a poster flipper and you're not trying to make a profit off of something illegal. I don't see the problem here.

phishphood318

KN219077 wrote:

I may be one of the few people that actually would suggest slapping a ridiculous price on it first to see if anyone was willing to put up that kind of cash. You're not a poster flipper and you're not trying to make a profit off of something illegal. I don't see the problem here.

Thank you. First post without flaming me. I appreciate it. Everyone on here is making fun of my price point or even ripping the fact its not from one of his notebooks. I mean its hand written lyrics by Eddie Vedder. I would never sell this piece for a few hundred dollars and I know it is worth much more than that and not just because I was given this amazing piece.

on2legs

Hey... If this thing goes for $10,000 on ebay then the shoebox might be worth $20,000

http://espn.go.com/chicago/nba/story/_/ ... 10000-ebay

shetellsherself

You didn't owe anybody an explanation but I totally get your motivations now. Glad ur not really wanting to sell and just wanted to get value opinions. It's such a special item. It has been haunting my dreams I am somewhat embarrassed to say. It should stay with you, IMHO. Sorry you felt judged by some and hope I wasn't part of that. Peace. Jen

PJStatTracker

phishphood318 wrote:

KN219077 wrote:

I may be one of the few people that actually would suggest slapping a ridiculous price on it first to see if anyone was willing to put up that kind of cash. You're not a poster flipper and you're not trying to make a profit off of something illegal. I don't see the problem here.

Thank you. First post without flaming me. I appreciate it. Everyone on here is making fun of my price point or even ripping the fact its not from one of his notebooks. I mean its hand written lyrics by Eddie Vedder. I would never sell this piece for a few hundred dollars and I know it is worth much more than that and not just because I was given this amazing piece.

I think the point that lessens the value is that these are lyrics he jotted down so he could remember them for the show vs. lyrics he wrote down as he wrote the song. I believe that's what people are referring to when they say these aren't from his notebook.

No matter where they were written (shoebox, notebook, napkin, whatever) - if these had been the original back-in-the-day hand written lyrics for Wash it would be a historical artifact and would command an extremely high price. Those sorts of items are on display at the RnR Hall of Fame.

These are reminder lyrics - still a badass and completely unique item - just not nearly as cosmically epic. I'd say between $1,000-2,000 seems about right. Good luck and congrats on such a nice piece of memorabilia.

Wilds

phishphood318 wrote:

KN219077 wrote:

I may be one of the few people that actually would suggest slapping a ridiculous price on it first to see if anyone was willing to put up that kind of cash. You're not a poster flipper and you're not trying to make a profit off of something illegal. I don't see the problem here.

Thank you. First post without flaming me. I appreciate it. Everyone on here is making fun of my price point or even ripping the fact its not from one of his notebooks. I mean its hand written lyrics by Eddie Vedder. I would never sell this piece for a few hundred dollars and I know it is worth much more than that and not just because I was given this amazing piece.

You are way off base if you feel I'm flaming/mocking you.

I gave my opinion, backed it up with facts, and added information to this thread.

In my first post I wished you luck. I don't begrudge you making as much money as you can, just stating what the actual value might be.

I think 10K is a bit ridiculous, but that doesn't mean I'm some big meanie, trying to make you look bad.

Just stating my opinion as I see it. (and as you asked for it in your original post)

phishphood318

Again can you show me hand written lyrics by Eddie Vedder for the song "Wash"? How come some posters made up of runs of 200 to 1000 would be worth more than this one of a kind item? It was of course a reminder to him while he was singing the song. So the only written lyrics from Eddie Vedder at the RnR hall of fame will be from his personal notebook? I guess your probably right I just have a flawed opinion of this piece since I cherish it so much.

I do appreciate the value you give the piece. The fact some people think this is worth a few hundred dollars I find hard to believe

I never said your comments were over the top. You have the right to your opinion and that is what I asked for. I just do not get why people have to mock me when we are all supposed to be fans.

pjtradeking

phishphood318 wrote:

Again can you show me hand written lyrics by Eddie Vedder for the song "Wash"? How come some posters made up of runs of 200 to 1000 would be worth more than this one of a kind item? It was of course a reminder to him while he was singing the song. So the only written lyrics from Eddie Vedder at the RnR hall of fame will be from his personal notebook? I guess your probably right I just have a flawed opinion of this piece since I cherish it so much.

I do appreciate the value you give the piece. The fact some people think this is worth a few hundred dollars I find hard to believe

I never said your comments were over the top. You have the right to your opinion and that is what I asked for. I just do not get why people have to mock me when we are all supposed to be fans.

You are talking to people who have been collecting this stuff for years and have seen pretty much everything imaginable from $1 -$5000 come and go. From airline itineraries, to soaked sweatbands, signed guitars for charity auctions and wine bottles that have eds dna on them.(get a fresh egg and you could grow your own ed.. ;-) ) Yes, these were handwritten lyrics to a song that ed didnt remember the words to that was written 14+ years prior...He more than likely had someone reading them to him while he wrote them down, or was getting help when he did it too. All they are are in his hand writing...It is not as though he wrote the song that night and this was the first time they had been penned. Of course people are mocking, because that is what people(fans or otherwise) do when someone is asking for a laughable amount of money that we all know isnt worth what you were asking for. Just human nature. You would be doing the same thing on the Lebron board if someone were to ask $100, 000 for a card you know is valued at $15-$20000. Hell, I have a signed reeenk roink that actually has the key to what it all meant from Jeff, and that wouldnt fetch $5000 and it is far more valuable that what you have, just being realistic...You said yourself you dont come here often, and if you had, you would have known what we all would say and the(all in good fun headshaking) crap we are giving you. It isnt the end of the world. Listing something for $10000 on the bay isnt going to give you any kind of an appraisal either, as most people will just laugh and think it is fake and you are out of your mind. You want to find out what people are willing to pay? Lower your bid to a reasonable level and see what people do...Set it at an amount that should it hit there, you would sell it for. I would imagine that the first $1000 bid would take it, but you may have a different number in mind and I truly do not think it would get there....Anyhow, dont take us too personal, we are assholes for the most part, but we are nice ones and mean no harm...Good Luck!

PJ_Soul

You've gotta understand how it looks from our end though... you come on here asking people's opinions about what the item might be worth (and this is where the experts are, really, although you probably would have gotten a less snarky respond if you'd posted in Lost Dogs), several people gave you their opinions, and the next thing we know, your item is posted for $10k on eBay - around 10x the amount people were suggesting when you asked for advice. We can't know that you've got it in your head that somehow way overpricing it will act as an appraisal on eBay. What it looks like to us - a bunch of people wary of flippers who are half to blame for outrageous merch prices (the other half goes to the people who will buy for crazy prices) - is that you are one of those flippers, kind of... I mean, I know you can't flip a one of a kind item Ed gave you, but the insane price certainly reminds us of the mentality. And I think that is what makes us scoff... I mean, people aren't about to react with admiration to what appears to be someone way overpricing something that we see as precious on an emotional level (as I assume you do too). There is just something dirty about it. Sorry if your feelings were hurt. We just couldn't know that your listing was anything other than trying to milk way too much money out of the item (that kind of pricing can also drive up the PJ memorabilia market in general btw... some other sellers or buyers see listings like that, and then they are way overestimating the value of their stuff too, based on comparative items ... not good for collectors in the long run, any way you swing it).

PJStatTracker

phishphood318 wrote:

Again can you show me hand written lyrics by Eddie Vedder for the song "Wash"? How come some posters made up of runs of 200 to 1000 would be worth more than this one of a kind item? It was of course a reminder to him while he was singing the song. So the only written lyrics from Eddie Vedder at the RnR hall of fame will be from his personal notebook? I guess your probably right I just have a flawed opinion of this piece since I cherish it so much.

Nobody is saying you don't have a unique item. It's definitely one of a kind. At the same time, there is a major difference between this and hand-written lyrics from the song-writing process.

To answer your question - yes, based on the exhibits I've seen, the only EV lyrics at the Hall of Fame would be from lyrics written at the point of conception...I think they may even have one from his typewriter.

Most of the posts in this thread are only trying to offer an honest opinion based on years of evaluating similar items, so no need to be so combative or defensive about it. Besides, it's worth whatever someone is willing to pay for it, right? If you get the right people's interests piqued at the right time, who knows what it would sell for.

phishphood318

Have already been offered privately $1,000 three years ago and re-offered today. I was more interested in selling the piece three years ago because I lost my job. With a lot of bills/school loans to pay I was seriously considering. For $1,000 I just do not think it is worth it to ever sell it. I will probably leave it for my kids or my buddy Nickels if I was to ever sell it for that ballpark of a price. I mean money comes and goes but this will last a life time. A conversation piece for anyone who comes and sees it. I appreciate your honesty and your opinion, I just disagee with it.

What is the difference if I put the bid @ $10,000 or $4,000. You will still think it is over valued. I obviously do not want to sell it. It will end up back on my wall. I was just trying to get a ball park figure someone is willing to offer. Anyone can still offer any amount money for the piece whether I have the price way to high. I understand it is not a reasonable auction price but it was done intentionally but I just do not know why it will not make someone who is seriously interested to offer me something.

What exactly were you talking about that you have from Jeff? Just curious.

There were a few remarks in the post that were rude but mostly they were opinions and I am not mad about that. Everyone has the right to their opinion and I have the right to disagree with your opinion. The reason I got really mad was the asshole who checked my other items and had to comment about me being a greedy person, like I said this is a Pearl Jam Message Board and that should have never been talked about. Its like if one of you guys collected stamps or watches. I saw your price on a watch or stamp and I started mocking the person. When I have no background to know what that watch or stamp may be worth nor am I an avid collector. He pissed me off because he had no clue of what he was talking about. If he actually did some research he could have seen the same card I had for a even a higher price than I have mine at from a different seller. But all he wanted to do is call me greedy and mock me. Now I know that does not mean the price of the card is what we say they are. There are things called price guides which would base my auction listing in the same area. So I just think that did not need to be discussed and I just had to explain that to him that he was an asshole for calling me greedy and know-it-all thinking like he knew anything about the card.

PJStatTracker

phishphood318 wrote:

What exactly were you talking about that you have from Jeff? Just curious.

he has one of these:

http://www.twofeetthick.com/2005/08/ree ... o-mess-up/

Wilds

PJStatTracker wrote:

phishphood318 wrote:

What exactly were you talking about that you have from Jeff? Just curious.

he has one of these:

http://www.twofeetthick.com/2005/08/ree ... o-mess-up/

In fact the one "To Scott" signed by Jeff IS HIS copy, if I'm not mistaken.