You didn't owe anybody an explanation but I totally get your motivations now. Glad ur not really wanting to sell and just wanted to get value opinions. It's such a special item. It has been haunting my dreams I am somewhat embarrassed to say. It should stay with you, IMHO. Sorry you felt judged by some and hope I wasn't part of that. Peace. Jen
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I may be one of the few people that actually would suggest slapping a ridiculous price on it first to see if anyone was willing to put up that kind of cash. You're not a poster flipper and you're not trying to make a profit off of something illegal. I don't see the problem here.
Thank you. First post without flaming me. I appreciate it. Everyone on here is making fun of my price point or even ripping the fact its not from one of his notebooks. I mean its hand written lyrics by Eddie Vedder. I would never sell this piece for a few hundred dollars and I know it is worth much more than that and not just because I was given this amazing piece.
I think the point that lessens the value is that these are lyrics he jotted down so he could remember them for the show vs. lyrics he wrote down as he wrote the song. I believe that's what people are referring to when they say these aren't from his notebook.
No matter where they were written (shoebox, notebook, napkin, whatever) - if these had been the original back-in-the-day hand written lyrics for Wash it would be a historical artifact and would command an extremely high price. Those sorts of items are on display at the RnR Hall of Fame.
These are reminder lyrics - still a badass and completely unique item - just not nearly as cosmically epic. I'd say between $1,000-2,000 seems about right. Good luck and congrats on such a nice piece of memorabilia.
I may be one of the few people that actually would suggest slapping a ridiculous price on it first to see if anyone was willing to put up that kind of cash. You're not a poster flipper and you're not trying to make a profit off of something illegal. I don't see the problem here.
Thank you. First post without flaming me. I appreciate it. Everyone on here is making fun of my price point or even ripping the fact its not from one of his notebooks. I mean its hand written lyrics by Eddie Vedder. I would never sell this piece for a few hundred dollars and I know it is worth much more than that and not just because I was given this amazing piece.
You are way off base if you feel I'm flaming/mocking you.
I gave my opinion, backed it up with facts, and added information to this thread.
In my first post I wished you luck. I don't begrudge you making as much money as you can, just stating what the actual value might be.
I think 10K is a bit ridiculous, but that doesn't mean I'm some big meanie, trying to make you look bad.
Just stating my opinion as I see it. (and as you asked for it in your original post)
Again can you show me hand written lyrics by Eddie Vedder for the song "Wash"? How come some posters made up of runs of 200 to 1000 would be worth more than this one of a kind item? It was of course a reminder to him while he was singing the song. So the only written lyrics from Eddie Vedder at the RnR hall of fame will be from his personal notebook? I guess your probably right I just have a flawed opinion of this piece since I cherish it so much.
I do appreciate the value you give the piece. The fact some people think this is worth a few hundred dollars I find hard to believe
I never said your comments were over the top. You have the right to your opinion and that is what I asked for. I just do not get why people have to mock me when we are all supposed to be fans.
Again can you show me hand written lyrics by Eddie Vedder for the song "Wash"? How come some posters made up of runs of 200 to 1000 would be worth more than this one of a kind item? It was of course a reminder to him while he was singing the song. So the only written lyrics from Eddie Vedder at the RnR hall of fame will be from his personal notebook? I guess your probably right I just have a flawed opinion of this piece since I cherish it so much.
I do appreciate the value you give the piece. The fact some people think this is worth a few hundred dollars I find hard to believe
I never said your comments were over the top. You have the right to your opinion and that is what I asked for. I just do not get why people have to mock me when we are all supposed to be fans.
You are talking to people who have been collecting this stuff for years and have seen pretty much everything imaginable from $1 -$5000 come and go. From airline itineraries, to soaked sweatbands, signed guitars for charity auctions and wine bottles that have eds dna on them.(get a fresh egg and you could grow your own ed.. ;-) ) Yes, these were handwritten lyrics to a song that ed didnt remember the words to that was written 14+ years prior...He more than likely had someone reading them to him while he wrote them down, or was getting help when he did it too. All they are are in his hand writing...It is not as though he wrote the song that night and this was the first time they had been penned. Of course people are mocking, because that is what people(fans or otherwise) do when someone is asking for a laughable amount of money that we all know isnt worth what you were asking for. Just human nature. You would be doing the same thing on the Lebron board if someone were to ask $100, 000 for a card you know is valued at $15-$20000. Hell, I have a signed reeenk roink that actually has the key to what it all meant from Jeff, and that wouldnt fetch $5000 and it is far more valuable that what you have, just being realistic...You said yourself you dont come here often, and if you had, you would have known what we all would say and the(all in good fun headshaking) crap we are giving you. It isnt the end of the world. Listing something for $10000 on the bay isnt going to give you any kind of an appraisal either, as most people will just laugh and think it is fake and you are out of your mind. You want to find out what people are willing to pay? Lower your bid to a reasonable level and see what people do...Set it at an amount that should it hit there, you would sell it for. I would imagine that the first $1000 bid would take it, but you may have a different number in mind and I truly do not think it would get there....Anyhow, dont take us too personal, we are assholes for the most part, but we are nice ones and mean no harm...Good Luck!
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You've gotta understand how it looks from our end though... you come on here asking people's opinions about what the item might be worth (and this is where the experts are, really, although you probably would have gotten a less snarky respond if you'd posted in Lost Dogs), several people gave you their opinions, and the next thing we know, your item is posted for $10k on eBay - around 10x the amount people were suggesting when you asked for advice. We can't know that you've got it in your head that somehow way overpricing it will act as an appraisal on eBay. What it looks like to us - a bunch of people wary of flippers who are half to blame for outrageous merch prices (the other half goes to the people who will buy for crazy prices) - is that you are one of those flippers, kind of... I mean, I know you can't flip a one of a kind item Ed gave you, but the insane price certainly reminds us of the mentality. And I think that is what makes us scoff... I mean, people aren't about to react with admiration to what appears to be someone way overpricing something that we see as precious on an emotional level (as I assume you do too). There is just something dirty about it. Sorry if your feelings were hurt. We just couldn't know that your listing was anything other than trying to milk way too much money out of the item (that kind of pricing can also drive up the PJ memorabilia market in general btw... some other sellers or buyers see listings like that, and then they are way overestimating the value of their stuff too, based on comparative items ... not good for collectors in the long run, any way you swing it).
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Again can you show me hand written lyrics by Eddie Vedder for the song "Wash"? How come some posters made up of runs of 200 to 1000 would be worth more than this one of a kind item? It was of course a reminder to him while he was singing the song. So the only written lyrics from Eddie Vedder at the RnR hall of fame will be from his personal notebook? I guess your probably right I just have a flawed opinion of this piece since I cherish it so much.
Nobody is saying you don't have a unique item. It's definitely one of a kind. At the same time, there is a major difference between this and hand-written lyrics from the song-writing process.
To answer your question - yes, based on the exhibits I've seen, the only EV lyrics at the Hall of Fame would be from lyrics written at the point of conception...I think they may even have one from his typewriter.
Most of the posts in this thread are only trying to offer an honest opinion based on years of evaluating similar items, so no need to be so combative or defensive about it. Besides, it's worth whatever someone is willing to pay for it, right? If you get the right people's interests piqued at the right time, who knows what it would sell for.
Have already been offered privately $1,000 three years ago and re-offered today. I was more interested in selling the piece three years ago because I lost my job. With a lot of bills/school loans to pay I was seriously considering. For $1,000 I just do not think it is worth it to ever sell it. I will probably leave it for my kids or my buddy Nickels if I was to ever sell it for that ballpark of a price. I mean money comes and goes but this will last a life time. A conversation piece for anyone who comes and sees it. I appreciate your honesty and your opinion, I just disagee with it.
What is the difference if I put the bid @ $10,000 or $4,000. You will still think it is over valued. I obviously do not want to sell it. It will end up back on my wall. I was just trying to get a ball park figure someone is willing to offer. Anyone can still offer any amount money for the piece whether I have the price way to high. I understand it is not a reasonable auction price but it was done intentionally but I just do not know why it will not make someone who is seriously interested to offer me something.
What exactly were you talking about that you have from Jeff? Just curious.
There were a few remarks in the post that were rude but mostly they were opinions and I am not mad about that. Everyone has the right to their opinion and I have the right to disagree with your opinion. The reason I got really mad was the asshole who checked my other items and had to comment about me being a greedy person, like I said this is a Pearl Jam Message Board and that should have never been talked about. Its like if one of you guys collected stamps or watches. I saw your price on a watch or stamp and I started mocking the person. When I have no background to know what that watch or stamp may be worth nor am I an avid collector. He pissed me off because he had no clue of what he was talking about. If he actually did some research he could have seen the same card I had for a even a higher price than I have mine at from a different seller. But all he wanted to do is call me greedy and mock me. Now I know that does not mean the price of the card is what we say they are. There are things called price guides which would base my auction listing in the same area. So I just think that did not need to be discussed and I just had to explain that to him that he was an asshole for calling me greedy and know-it-all thinking like he knew anything about the card.
That is amazing. Never knew that existed to be honest with you. Wow is all I can say. Got another high bid $1250. Gonna pull the auction soon. You guys were right that around 1k-2k is the value. Definitely worth a lot more in my eyes plus I was really never looking to sell it. Does anyone know where I can get something like this authenticated? Would they have to take the piece out of the frame to authenticate?
Thanks for the input. Does anyone know where I can get something like this authenticated? Can they authenticate with it being framed or are they going to have to take it out of the frame?
The only person who can authenticate it for you is Ed or someone in the crew. When people have certificates for authetication, it really means nothing, anyone can print one up on their printer and put a nice hologram sticker on it to make it look official.
I know that for QVC, they would lock players in a room with no one else and then certify that the person who signed the item was that person.
I think Ed had signed a letter for his ukelele auction for the ferry.
That is amazing. Never knew that existed to be honest with you. Wow is all I can say. Got another high bid $1250. Gonna pull the auction soon. You guys were right that around 1k-2k is the value. Definitely worth a lot more in my eyes plus I was really never looking to sell it. Does anyone know where I can get something like this authenticated? Would they have to take the piece out of the frame to authenticate?
There are a couple routes to go for this kind of authentication. If you brought it to a respectable auction house, they would have it authenticated. That type of authentication, where an item is presented by a respected auction house, works to put people at ease about an item.
Now if you just wanted it authenticated, and then have a certificate for it. PSA/DNA is the #1 authentication company in the country, and I would say world.
They make mistakes like any other company in the world, but 98% of the time I would guess they are spot on perfect.
As for value. Having an item authenticated by PSA/DNA is pure gold from a selling standpoint. That sticker, or letter, will give you the desired effect.
People do and will trust it, and thus you could potentially double your price of around $1000.00. to perhaps close to double.
Now that process isn't cheap. Will probably cost you $100.00 or more for the authentication, when all the shipping is said and done.
Check out their website. They might even have Eddie Vedder in the price list.
And yes. 100% it would have to come out of the frame for authentication.
Now with all that said. I can authenticate it. It is absolutely real, and in Eddies Hand. This board is usually good with a half a dozen of us who have a lot of experience looking at and authenticating Pearl Jam sigs.
Man I'd love to authenticate it but that is gonna be pricey if I have to take it out of the frame. Gonna cost me a ton to get re-framed. Some guy on eBay sent me an email.
"Not sure that this is Eddies writing.. I would be willing to give you $1900 for them. Would that work? I would also ask that you write up a letter stating how you got them. Lmk. I can Paypal money. thanks,L"
That's why I want it authenticated. Not for me because I'll never sell it but for the long term outlook. I asked the guy why would you spend $1900 on something that you don't think is Ed's handwriting. Again I told him it will not sell but I appreciate his interest. So the guy who said this was only worth a few hundred dollars was way off and that's without it being authenticated.
Man I'd love to authenticate it but that is gonna be pricey if I have to take it out of the frame. Gonna cost me a ton to get re-framed. Some guy on eBay sent me an email.
"Not sure that this is Eddies writing.. I would be willing to give you $1900 for them. Would that work? I would also ask that you write up a letter stating how you got them. Lmk. I can Paypal money. thanks,L"
That's why I want it authenticated. Not for me because I'll never sell it but for the long term outlook. I asked the guy why would you spend $1900 on something that you don't think is Ed's handwriting. Again I told him it will not sell but I appreciate his interest. So the guy who said this was only worth a few hundred dollars was way off and that's without it being authenticated.
Matt
Two things.
1. Yeah the dude who said $200.00 was off.
2. The guy who said he's not sure it's EV's writing is using a technique to get you to accept his offer. He knows they are real, and is afraid you won't take his low ball offer. I would offer it to him for $2,400.00 and see if he bites.
"So what would you sell them for? Just because they are onstage does not mean Eddie wrote it. All of Pjs setlists that are onstage are not written by Eddie. I would have to have the lyrics authenticated, so i would be taking the chance. Whats your bottom price on them? thanks"
Again I don't want to sell it. $2400 will not take it from me. I was being honest. I just wanna see much the thing is worth. I am going to get it authenticated this week for sure.
why all this post then?..why the talk about the price??
why need to authenticated???...wasnt given to you from Eddie???
you have a great piece of pj item...the value has to do with you had this special item.to remember the moment..
why is it in ebay then???if i just clik buy now at 9.999 $,then what??you will not sell it to me??
you will answer me,sorry,i cant take your money..i just wanna see if worth so much???dont wanna sell it??
you have a pj item..rare..if you wanna sell it,thats fine..do it...put what ever price you want..
but ,you need to accept that from the moment you post it here,you gonna have to read other memmbers comments about..
like or not the comments..
no worries,happens to everyone here..
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why all this post then?..why the talk about the price??
why need to authenticated???...wasnt given to you from Eddie???
you have a great piece of pj item...the value has to do with you had this special item.to remember the moment..
why is it in ebay then???if i just clik buy now at 9.999 $,then what??you will not sell it to me??
you will answer me,sorry,i cant take your money..i just wanna see if worth so much???dont wanna sell it??
you have a pj item..rare..if you wanna sell it,thats fine..do it...put what ever price you want..
but ,you need to accept that from the moment you post it here,you gonna have to read other memmbers comments about..
like or not the comments..
no worries,happens to everyone here..
I was asking on here the real value of the piece. Thought it was worth more than what people were telling me. So I put it on eBay with an absurd price that I think no one would ever buy it now. Some people told me I would never get a serious offer with such an absurd price. I have gotten offers in the general area of 500-2000. So I basically now know its value. I will take it off eBay get it authenticated and throw it back on my wall. Not trying to annoy anybody, just was updating what I got offered that's all.
Than that guy said something about not being his hand writing by Mr. Vedder. So it made want to get it authenticated even more. I checked his auctions and saw all different musician autos/set lists. He is the guy selling the basketball signed by Pearl Jam's seven members.
why all this post then?..why the talk about the price??
why need to authenticated???...wasnt given to you from Eddie???
you have a great piece of pj item...the value has to do with you had this special item.to remember the moment..
why is it in ebay then???if i just clik buy now at 9.999 $,then what??you will not sell it to me??
you will answer me,sorry,i cant take your money..i just wanna see if worth so much???dont wanna sell it??
you have a pj item..rare..if you wanna sell it,thats fine..do it...put what ever price you want..
but ,you need to accept that from the moment you post it here,you gonna have to read other memmbers comments about..
like or not the comments..
no worries,happens to everyone here..
I was asking on here the real value of the piece. Thought it was worth more than what people were telling me. So I put it on eBay with an absurd price that I think no one would ever buy it now. Some people told me I would never get a serious offer with such an absurd price. I have gotten offers in the general area of 500-2000. So I basically now know its value. I will take it off eBay get it authenticated and throw it back on my wall. Not trying to annoy anybody, just was updating what I got offered that's all.
Than that guy said something about not being his hand writing by Mr. Vedder. So it made want to get it authenticated even more. I checked his auctions and saw all different musician autos/set lists. He is the guy selling the basketball signed by Pearl Jam's seven members.
if eddie given me this item ,will worth millions...of feelings...
for others worth 100$...for others mean comments cos they are jealous...
this isnt an item you easily can put price,isnt a sold out record or poster...
the value of it is only the price you gonna sell it and the buyer will pay for it..
so worth from 1$ to 1.000.000 $..no one knows..
"...Dimitri...He talks to me...'.."The Ghost of Greece..".
"..That's One Happy Fuckin Ghost.."
“..That came up on the Pillow Case...This is for the Greek, With Our Apologies.....”
if eddie given me this item ,will worth millions...of feelings...
for others worth 100$...for others mean comments cos they are jealous...
this isnt an item you easily can put price,isnt a sold out record or poster...
the value of it is only the price you gonna sell it and the buyer will pay for it..
so worth from 1$ to 1.000.000 $..no one knows..
It's like the EdVed pick I got from Eddie in person, it's worth a lot for me but for the rest of the world it's just a guitar pick. You cant get money for the emotions you have for this pice of cardboard
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if eddie given me this item ,will worth millions...of feelings...
for others worth 100$...for others mean comments cos they are jealous...
this isnt an item you easily can put price,isnt a sold out record or poster...
the value of it is only the price you gonna sell it and the buyer will pay for it..
so worth from 1$ to 1.000.000 $..no one knows..
It's like the EdVed pick I got from Eddie in person, it's worth a lot for me but for the rest of the world it's just a guitar pick. You cant get money for the emotions you have for this pice of cardboard
yep..i agree
"...Dimitri...He talks to me...'.."The Ghost of Greece..".
"..That's One Happy Fuckin Ghost.."
“..That came up on the Pillow Case...This is for the Greek, With Our Apologies.....”
if eddie given me this item ,will worth millions...of feelings...
for others worth 100$...for others mean comments cos they are jealous...
this isnt an item you easily can put price,isnt a sold out record or poster...
the value of it is only the price you gonna sell it and the buyer will pay for it..
so worth from 1$ to 1.000.000 $..no one knows..
It's like the EdVed pick I got from Eddie in person, it's worth a lot for me but for the rest of the world it's just a guitar pick. You cant get money for the emotions you have for this pice of cardboard
It's worth more than $1000 obviously if someone offered $1900 that is just common math sir. But yes I agree it is worth someone will offer me and that is what someone offered me. It is worth more to me than anyone else. I know that. I had a few guitar picks. I lost one and gave one to my close friend since he never gets to sit up close. They were from Mike though not Eddie
That is amazing. Never knew that existed to be honest with you. Wow is all I can say. Got another high bid $1250. Gonna pull the auction soon. You guys were right that around 1k-2k is the value. Definitely worth a lot more in my eyes plus I was really never looking to sell it. Does anyone know where I can get something like this authenticated? Would they have to take the piece out of the frame to authenticate?
There are a couple routes to go for this kind of authentication. If you brought it to a respectable auction house, they would have it authenticated. That type of authentication, where an item is presented by a respected auction house, works to put people at ease about an item.
Now if you just wanted it authenticated, and then have a certificate for it. PSA/DNA is the #1 authentication company in the country, and I would say world.
They make mistakes like any other company in the world, but 98% of the time I would guess they are spot on perfect.
As for value. Having an item authenticated by PSA/DNA is pure gold from a selling standpoint. That sticker, or letter, will give you the desired effect.
People do and will trust it, and thus you could potentially double your price of around $1000.00. to perhaps close to double.
Now that process isn't cheap. Will probably cost you $100.00 or more for the authentication, when all the shipping is said and done.
Check out their website. They might even have Eddie Vedder in the price list.
Looks like they do EV for around $25-$35 plus shipping of course.
Does an autograph count when it's just his initials? And it says per word you get authenticated. You think I would have to pay per word on the lyrics? Just curious, going to call them on Monday.
If you aren't planning on selling it, why bother authenticating? I mean, you know where it came from...is there something I'm missing?
I also think you've been offered pretty fair market price for this. I don't really see authenticating it sky rocketing its value. The market for a high priced thing like this is pretty small and it's clearly legit, so I don't see authentication netting you more than a couple hundred extra bucks.
This isn't my wheelhouse, though, so wtf do I know.
That is amazing. Never knew that existed to be honest with you. Wow is all I can say. Got another high bid $1250. Gonna pull the auction soon. You guys were right that around 1k-2k is the value. Definitely worth a lot more in my eyes plus I was really never looking to sell it. Does anyone know where I can get something like this authenticated? Would they have to take the piece out of the frame to authenticate?
There are a couple routes to go for this kind of authentication. If you brought it to a respectable auction house, they would have it authenticated. That type of authentication, where an item is presented by a respected auction house, works to put people at ease about an item.
Now if you just wanted it authenticated, and then have a certificate for it. PSA/DNA is the #1 authentication company in the country, and I would say world.
They make mistakes like any other company in the world, but 98% of the time I would guess they are spot on perfect.
As for value. Having an item authenticated by PSA/DNA is pure gold from a selling standpoint. That sticker, or letter, will give you the desired effect.
People do and will trust it, and thus you could potentially double your price of around $1000.00. to perhaps close to double.
Now that process isn't cheap. Will probably cost you $100.00 or more for the authentication, when all the shipping is said and done.
Check out their website. They might even have Eddie Vedder in the price list.
Looks like they do EV for around $25-$35 plus shipping of course.
Does an autograph count when it's just his initials? And it says per word you get authenticated. You think I would have to pay per word on the lyrics? Just curious, going to call them on Monday.
Matt
Good question. I don't know about the 'per word', but as to the initials, that should be no problem.
Eddie has signed his name, many different ways over the years. His initials is just one version of his signature.
I'm going to have to go with Dimi on this one. The only purpose for authentication is so that others know it's legit and have documentation to support a purchase. If the owner plans on retaining it and obtained it himself then authentication isn't necessary at this time.
As far as monetary value goes....this appears to be a one-of-a-kind item. An auction setting with multiple interested parties is generally the best gauge as to the monetary value of one-of-a-kind items. For example, take high dollar car auctions.... The auction is marketed very well so you get multiple interested parties in the same place at the same time. Multiple bids on the same item will give you the monetary value of an item at that singular point in time. No guarantee of future monetary value...just what the market was at that singular point in time.
I don't think a single person throwing out a number will give anyone a true monetary value on an item. Trust me, I've overpaid for some stuff. Why?....because I had to have it. Could I re-sell it for what I paid? Hell no....
Just my 2 cents....
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I don't at all understand why anyone else would want it that much (I wouldn't want it for free if I had to keep it - it is meaningless to me), but if I was the OP, and Ed had actually handed it to me during a show, it would be priceless to me and mean so much (I wouldn't even think about what it's worth, since I'd never even consider selling it, so I am not sure why OP is so into authentication or value if he claims he's not selling, and yeah, why the hell is the eBay listing still there?? If someone bids are you just going say... what? Haha, sorry bud, you may have been agonizing over whether or not you wanted this, how much you're willing to pay... maybe you even decided not to buy something else so you could bid on this... well, too bad, so sad, it's not even really for sale, sucker! :?).
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I think the point that lessens the value is that these are lyrics he jotted down so he could remember them for the show vs. lyrics he wrote down as he wrote the song. I believe that's what people are referring to when they say these aren't from his notebook.
No matter where they were written (shoebox, notebook, napkin, whatever) - if these had been the original back-in-the-day hand written lyrics for Wash it would be a historical artifact and would command an extremely high price. Those sorts of items are on display at the RnR Hall of Fame.
These are reminder lyrics - still a badass and completely unique item - just not nearly as cosmically epic. I'd say between $1,000-2,000 seems about right. Good luck and congrats on such a nice piece of memorabilia.
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You are way off base if you feel I'm flaming/mocking you.
I gave my opinion, backed it up with facts, and added information to this thread.
In my first post I wished you luck. I don't begrudge you making as much money as you can, just stating what the actual value might be.
I think 10K is a bit ridiculous, but that doesn't mean I'm some big meanie, trying to make you look bad.
Just stating my opinion as I see it. (and as you asked for it in your original post)
I do appreciate the value you give the piece. The fact some people think this is worth a few hundred dollars I find hard to believe
I never said your comments were over the top. You have the right to your opinion and that is what I asked for. I just do not get why people have to mock me when we are all supposed to be fans.
You are talking to people who have been collecting this stuff for years and have seen pretty much everything imaginable from $1 -$5000 come and go. From airline itineraries, to soaked sweatbands, signed guitars for charity auctions and wine bottles that have eds dna on them.(get a fresh egg and you could grow your own ed.. ;-) ) Yes, these were handwritten lyrics to a song that ed didnt remember the words to that was written 14+ years prior...He more than likely had someone reading them to him while he wrote them down, or was getting help when he did it too. All they are are in his hand writing...It is not as though he wrote the song that night and this was the first time they had been penned. Of course people are mocking, because that is what people(fans or otherwise) do when someone is asking for a laughable amount of money that we all know isnt worth what you were asking for. Just human nature. You would be doing the same thing on the Lebron board if someone were to ask $100, 000 for a card you know is valued at $15-$20000. Hell, I have a signed reeenk roink that actually has the key to what it all meant from Jeff, and that wouldnt fetch $5000 and it is far more valuable that what you have, just being realistic...You said yourself you dont come here often, and if you had, you would have known what we all would say and the(all in good fun headshaking) crap we are giving you. It isnt the end of the world. Listing something for $10000 on the bay isnt going to give you any kind of an appraisal either, as most people will just laugh and think it is fake and you are out of your mind. You want to find out what people are willing to pay? Lower your bid to a reasonable level and see what people do...Set it at an amount that should it hit there, you would sell it for. I would imagine that the first $1000 bid would take it, but you may have a different number in mind and I truly do not think it would get there....Anyhow, dont take us too personal, we are assholes for the most part, but we are nice ones and mean no harm...Good Luck!
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Nobody is saying you don't have a unique item. It's definitely one of a kind. At the same time, there is a major difference between this and hand-written lyrics from the song-writing process.
To answer your question - yes, based on the exhibits I've seen, the only EV lyrics at the Hall of Fame would be from lyrics written at the point of conception...I think they may even have one from his typewriter.
Most of the posts in this thread are only trying to offer an honest opinion based on years of evaluating similar items, so no need to be so combative or defensive about it. Besides, it's worth whatever someone is willing to pay for it, right? If you get the right people's interests piqued at the right time, who knows what it would sell for.
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What is the difference if I put the bid @ $10,000 or $4,000. You will still think it is over valued. I obviously do not want to sell it. It will end up back on my wall. I was just trying to get a ball park figure someone is willing to offer. Anyone can still offer any amount money for the piece whether I have the price way to high. I understand it is not a reasonable auction price but it was done intentionally but I just do not know why it will not make someone who is seriously interested to offer me something.
What exactly were you talking about that you have from Jeff? Just curious.
There were a few remarks in the post that were rude but mostly they were opinions and I am not mad about that. Everyone has the right to their opinion and I have the right to disagree with your opinion. The reason I got really mad was the asshole who checked my other items and had to comment about me being a greedy person, like I said this is a Pearl Jam Message Board and that should have never been talked about. Its like if one of you guys collected stamps or watches. I saw your price on a watch or stamp and I started mocking the person. When I have no background to know what that watch or stamp may be worth nor am I an avid collector. He pissed me off because he had no clue of what he was talking about. If he actually did some research he could have seen the same card I had for a even a higher price than I have mine at from a different seller. But all he wanted to do is call me greedy and mock me. Now I know that does not mean the price of the card is what we say they are. There are things called price guides which would base my auction listing in the same area. So I just think that did not need to be discussed and I just had to explain that to him that he was an asshole for calling me greedy and know-it-all thinking like he knew anything about the card.
he has one of these:
http://www.twofeetthick.com/2005/08/ree ... o-mess-up/
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In fact the one "To Scott" signed by Jeff IS HIS copy, if I'm not mistaken.
The only person who can authenticate it for you is Ed or someone in the crew. When people have certificates for authetication, it really means nothing, anyone can print one up on their printer and put a nice hologram sticker on it to make it look official.
I know that for QVC, they would lock players in a room with no one else and then certify that the person who signed the item was that person.
I think Ed had signed a letter for his ukelele auction for the ferry.
Thats a nice item
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There are a couple routes to go for this kind of authentication. If you brought it to a respectable auction house, they would have it authenticated. That type of authentication, where an item is presented by a respected auction house, works to put people at ease about an item.
Now if you just wanted it authenticated, and then have a certificate for it. PSA/DNA is the #1 authentication company in the country, and I would say world.
They make mistakes like any other company in the world, but 98% of the time I would guess they are spot on perfect.
As for value. Having an item authenticated by PSA/DNA is pure gold from a selling standpoint. That sticker, or letter, will give you the desired effect.
People do and will trust it, and thus you could potentially double your price of around $1000.00. to perhaps close to double.
Now that process isn't cheap. Will probably cost you $100.00 or more for the authentication, when all the shipping is said and done.
Check out their website. They might even have Eddie Vedder in the price list.
http://www.psacard.com/services/auto_authentication.chtml
Also there is JSA, they are just as good as PSA, with a ton of respect, but not quite as highly regarded as PSA.
http://www.spenceloa.com/fees.aspx
Looks like they do EV for around $25-$35 plus shipping of course.
Now with all that said. I can authenticate it. It is absolutely real, and in Eddies Hand. This board is usually good with a half a dozen of us who have a lot of experience looking at and authenticating Pearl Jam sigs.
"Not sure that this is Eddies writing.. I would be willing to give you $1900 for them. Would that work? I would also ask that you write up a letter stating how you got them. Lmk. I can Paypal money. thanks,L"
That's why I want it authenticated. Not for me because I'll never sell it but for the long term outlook. I asked the guy why would you spend $1900 on something that you don't think is Ed's handwriting. Again I told him it will not sell but I appreciate his interest. So the guy who said this was only worth a few hundred dollars was way off and that's without it being authenticated.
Matt
Two things.
1. Yeah the dude who said $200.00 was off.
2. The guy who said he's not sure it's EV's writing is using a technique to get you to accept his offer. He knows they are real, and is afraid you won't take his low ball offer. I would offer it to him for $2,400.00 and see if he bites.
I bet he might if you put a buy it now on there.
I think that would be a great deal for you.
" Dear mattbergr101,
"So what would you sell them for? Just because they are onstage does not mean Eddie wrote it. All of Pjs setlists that are onstage are not written by Eddie. I would have to have the lyrics authenticated, so i would be taking the chance. Whats your bottom price on them? thanks"
Again I don't want to sell it. $2400 will not take it from me. I was being honest. I just wanna see much the thing is worth. I am going to get it authenticated this week for sure.
Matt
why all this post then?..why the talk about the price??
why need to authenticated???...wasnt given to you from Eddie???
you have a great piece of pj item...the value has to do with you had this special item.to remember the moment..
why is it in ebay then???if i just clik buy now at 9.999 $,then what??you will not sell it to me??
you will answer me,sorry,i cant take your money..i just wanna see if worth so much???dont wanna sell it??
you have a pj item..rare..if you wanna sell it,thats fine..do it...put what ever price you want..
but ,you need to accept that from the moment you post it here,you gonna have to read other memmbers comments about..
like or not the comments..
no worries,happens to everyone here..
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I was asking on here the real value of the piece. Thought it was worth more than what people were telling me. So I put it on eBay with an absurd price that I think no one would ever buy it now. Some people told me I would never get a serious offer with such an absurd price. I have gotten offers in the general area of 500-2000. So I basically now know its value. I will take it off eBay get it authenticated and throw it back on my wall. Not trying to annoy anybody, just was updating what I got offered that's all.
Than that guy said something about not being his hand writing by Mr. Vedder. So it made want to get it authenticated even more. I checked his auctions and saw all different musician autos/set lists. He is the guy selling the basketball signed by Pearl Jam's seven members.
if eddie given me this item ,will worth millions...of feelings...
for others worth 100$...for others mean comments cos they are jealous...
this isnt an item you easily can put price,isnt a sold out record or poster...
the value of it is only the price you gonna sell it and the buyer will pay for it..
so worth from 1$ to 1.000.000 $..no one knows..
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It's like the EdVed pick I got from Eddie in person, it's worth a lot for me but for the rest of the world it's just a guitar pick. You cant get money for the emotions you have for this pice of cardboard
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It's worth more than $1000 obviously if someone offered $1900 that is just common math sir. But yes I agree it is worth someone will offer me and that is what someone offered me. It is worth more to me than anyone else. I know that. I had a few guitar picks. I lost one and gave one to my close friend since he never gets to sit up close. They were from Mike though not Eddie
Does an autograph count when it's just his initials? And it says per word you get authenticated. You think I would have to pay per word on the lyrics? Just curious, going to call them on Monday.
Matt
I also think you've been offered pretty fair market price for this. I don't really see authenticating it sky rocketing its value. The market for a high priced thing like this is pretty small and it's clearly legit, so I don't see authentication netting you more than a couple hundred extra bucks.
This isn't my wheelhouse, though, so wtf do I know.
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So why is it still for sale on eBay?
Good question. I don't know about the 'per word', but as to the initials, that should be no problem.
Eddie has signed his name, many different ways over the years. His initials is just one version of his signature.
As far as monetary value goes....this appears to be a one-of-a-kind item. An auction setting with multiple interested parties is generally the best gauge as to the monetary value of one-of-a-kind items. For example, take high dollar car auctions.... The auction is marketed very well so you get multiple interested parties in the same place at the same time. Multiple bids on the same item will give you the monetary value of an item at that singular point in time. No guarantee of future monetary value...just what the market was at that singular point in time.
I don't think a single person throwing out a number will give anyone a true monetary value on an item. Trust me, I've overpaid for some stuff. Why?....because I had to have it. Could I re-sell it for what I paid? Hell no....
Just my 2 cents....
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