Obama abusing executive powers? Nah! Lol
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Theres no time like the present
A man that stands for nothing....will fall for anything!
All people need to do more on every level!
A man that stands for nothing....will fall for anything!
All people need to do more on every level!
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Obama Campaign Tries Donor Intimidation Against GOP Funders
http://www.usnews.com/opinion/blogs/peter-roff/2012/05/17/obama-campaign-tries-donor-intimidation-against-gop-funders
:shock: WOW !!! that was an eye opener "Obama Campaign Tries Donor Intimidation Against GOP Funders"
what a friggin dirt bag.
Godfather.
"What a whine. If you contribute to a political campaign, your motives are fair game for examination.
Comparing Obama to Nixon is ludicrous."
All hail the Koch brothers...... :roll:
Main article: Political activities of the Koch family
Members of the Koch family have given to libertarian policy and advocacy groups in the United States[5], including think tanks like the Heritage Foundation and the Cato Institute, and more recently Americans for Prosperity.[7] Americans for Prosperity and FreedomWorks are Koch-linked organizations that have been linked to the Tea Party movement.[8][9][10]
According to the Koch Family Foundations and Philanthropy website, "the foundations and the individual giving of Koch family members" have financially supported organizations "fostering entrepreneurship, education, human services, at-risk youth, arts and culture, and medical research.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Koch_family
I don't know anything about the Kooch Bro's so I looked them up and found this.
is there anything to add ?
Godfather.
David H. Koch was a Libertarian Vice-Presidential candidate in 1980. :shock: He advocated the abolition of Social Security :shock: what ???, the FBI, the CIA, and public schools.[4][5] Koch put $500,000 of his own money into the race,[5] and he and Ed Clark, his presidential running mate, won 1% of the vote—the best Libertarian showing in a U.S. presidential race to date.[6] But the experience caused David Koch to change course: "I had enough," he said. "We are not a nation that debates issues. We vote on candidates' personalities." By 1984, David had parted company with the Libertarian Party, because, he said, "they nominated a ticket I wasn't happy with" and "so many of the hard-core Libertarian ideas are unrealistic."[5] Since then, Charles and David Koch have adopted a much less visible strategy toward advancing their libertarian positions. Interested in maintaining their privacy, they prefer to spend on donations to non-profit groups who do not disclose donors.[7]
Charles G. Koch funds and supports libertarian and free-market organizations such as the Cato Institute,[8] which he co-founded with Edward H. Crane and Murray Rothbard in 1977,[9] and is a board member at the Mercatus Center, a market-oriented research think tank at George Mason University. Koch supported his brother's candidacy for Vice President on the Libertarian Party ticket in 1980.[1] After the bid, Charles told a reporter that conventional politics "tends to be a nasty, corrupting business ... I’m interested in advancing libertarian ideas".[1] In addition to funding think tanks, Charles and David also support libertarian academics;[10] since 1992, Charles has funded the Charles G. Koch Summer Fellow Program through the Institute for Humane Studies. The program recruits and mentors young libertarians.[11] Koch also organizes twice yearly meetings[12] of Republican donors.[8] The brothers have expressed the belief that economic freedom is essential for the well-being of society.[
ab·o·li·tion/ˌabəˈliSHən/Noun: The action or an act of abolishing a system, practice, or institution
what is this guy nucking futs ?
Godfather.
You forgot this part:
The brothers inherited the business from their father, Fred C. Koch,
Like Bush and Romney, they achieved the New American Dream: be born into privilege with a silver spoon in each hand, and in your mouth, and inherit everything form your daddy. It's the simple country-club mentality of the NeoCon.
These fucks live in a Ayn Rand fantasy land. They have no clue what it is to be working class, to actually work hard for what you have.
More on the Koch brothers, fighting for America......1807 America:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/10/1 ... f=politics
Americans For Prosperity Distributes Ads Promoting Pro-Slavery Arkansas Legislators
Americans for Prosperity, the super PAC backed by billionaires David and Charles Koch, has distributed mail praising votes cast by two members of the Arkansas House of Representatives who have written in support of slavery.
The mailings -- which do not focus on slavery or racial issues -- were distributed as part of an AFP plan to blanket Arkansas on behalf of Republican state legislative candidates as the GOP battles to retake the state legislature for the first time since the Civil War. The two legislators -- state Reps. Jon Hubbard of Jonesboro and Loy Mauch of Bismarck -- have a history of pro-slavery positions, according to recent reporting by the Arkansas Times.
Hubbard was revealed to have written that slavery may "have been a blessing" in a 2010 book, while Mauch authored a series of letters to the editor in the last decade that espoused pro-slavery views, writing that former President Abraham Lincoln was a "neurotic Northern war criminal" and comparing Lincoln and Civil War generals to Nazis.
The AFP ads sent on behalf of Hubbard and Mauch praise the pair for voting against implementing the Affordable Care Act, along with votes that AFP says are against higher taxes. In one piece sent on behalf of both candidates regarding the ACA, the ad features pictures of a smiling white family and a black doctor, and thanks them for voting against health care exchanges in Arkansas, saying they will cost states between $10 million and $100 million a year. The mailers also feature pictures of Hubbard or Mauch and ask readers to call them to "thank them for protecting our health care freedom."
In another mailing, AFP promotes Mauch's signing of a pledge the group had circulated, with signatures signifying a promise to not raise taxes. The mailer claimed that pledge is helping Arkansas.
Teresa Oelke, AFP's director in Arkansas, said that the group was not supporting individual candidates but was pushing various issues in the state and urging residents to contact legislators to shape policy in these areas. She described the mailers as part of the "issue education" efforts that AFP ended in the state in September. Oelke, who is leading a statewide bus tour for AFP, also said the group does not support what Hubbard and Mauch wrote regarding slavery. She declined to say if the group would be sending out more mail on their behalf, saying "we don't discuss internal strategy and never have."
"AFP believes it is absolutely unacceptable for any public official to espouse racist views," Oelke said. "Everyone should have an equal opportunity to pursue prosperity, regardless of race or ethnicity."
The Washington Post reported earlier this month that AFP is set to spend a million dollars to assist Republican candidates in the Arkansas legislative races, as one of several Republican groups involved in the state's contests. On the Democratic side, the Democratic Legislative Campaign Committee is invested in the state.
AFP played a major role in August's Republican primary in Kansas, where conservatives ousted moderate Republican state senators in an effort to flip the Kansas Senate from moderate GOP to conservative control. Kansas Senate President Steve Morris (R-Hugoton) blamed AFP for his primary defeat and accused them and other groups of wanting to turn the state into an "ultraconservative utopia."
Former state Rep. Charlie Fuqua, who is seeking a comeback, wrote in a 2012 book that he wanted to deport all Muslims and wanted to institute the death penalty for rebellious children. He wrote that liberals and Christians are the "anti-Christ."
Even the Arkansas Republican Party has said it will not provide any more assistance to the three candidates, while U.S. Reps. Tim Griffin and Steve Womack and Benton County Republican and state Rep. Prissy Hickerson (R-Texarkana) -- who have made donations to either Hubbard or Mauch -- have distanced themselves from the comments.
Arkansas Gov. Mike Beebe (D), who has condemned AFP ads in the state, called the candidates' writings "sad." Mauch has not commented publicly on the issue, while Fuqua has said he is not commenting. Mauch, Hubbard and Fuqua could not be immediately reached for comment on the AFP mailings. Mauch and Hubbard have not returned repeated calls from The Huffington Post for comment on the controversy surrounding their writings, and Fuqua, when reached recently, hung up.
The Fort Worth Star-Telegram quoted Hubbard as saying his book is being misunderstood by "liberal bloggers."
Hubbard responded, "They've taken small portions of my book out of context to make it appear that I am a racist."
They have an entire staff of people whose job it is to edit their Wikipedia Pages, write positive things about them and try to remove the stories about how they have poured hundreds of millions of dollars into getting politicians elected that do their bidding. They literally buy politicians... get them elected and then make them change laws, regulations and ordinances that will screw over the people who voted for them but make the Koch brothers richer.
Don't believe all that bullshit about helping "at risk" youth or donating money to cancer research.
It's mostly made up and based on a bit of spare change thrown in a bucket. The vast majority of their money donated goes to politicians who will do what they say.
It's easy to throw money at things and consider yourself selfless and a good citizen. How much effort does it take to write a check, or better yet, to tell your accountant or money manager to write a check.
Especially when that check is just so you can say you did it to try to counter-act all the very negative things that you've done.
Let's not forget all the posh fundraisers that you need to make an appearance at; the ones where you need to rub elbows with all of the others who see the poor and those who weren't born with silver spoons in each hand as a separate, lower class of human.
Life is easy when born into privilege and when you have everything handed to you by daddy. Just ask Bush, Trump, and Romney
http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/ticket/koch ... ction.html
Case in point.. how the Koch brothers paid tens of millions of dollars to support "grass roots" groups like Tea Party Express with the intent of turning as many people to the most extreme right-wing conspiracies just so they could weaken the president.
And bonus! You can deduct all that money to reduce your tax burden
Seems my preconceptions are what should have been burned...
I AM MINE
riotgrl, I respect you but must disagree here.
I'm not what one would call rich (and fuck knows I can be selfish), but we earn enough to live comfortably and also give to those individuals and groups who (we feel) are in need, who we want to assist, support.
(we have not deducted those donations, either)
Those trying to "buy" politics are all over the place; one could/should look beyond the Kochs of the world (heheh), and also see into Hollywood and others who selflessly have their accountants write those checks.
No, people are not disingenous if they make contributions - I do that as well. I was specifically referring to people of extreme wealth who throw money at charitable organizations (and I freely admit that many of them do so for noble purposes) to say that they support charities but give little or no time to do so. By giving money only, I think they are playing into the loopholes that are present in the tax code. If the tax code were modified to forgo tax reduction based on charitable donations, I would still give my time and money, and hedonist, I believe you would as well. Would these guys we're talking about do the same? I don't believe that they would.
Seems my preconceptions are what should have been burned...
I AM MINE
Oh, I don't think anyone is saying that... But there is a pretty big difference between a "charitable donation" to the Mormon "church" and a personal donation to a candidate or a social organization.
I donated my car and threw a fund raiser for a homeless youth shelter here in Los Angeles a couple years ago. I have never been homeless but I wanted to help and I saw the kind of work they were doing and thought they were the best use of my money. I got nothing for that other than a tax deduction and a good feeling for doing it. The youth shelter was able to feed and house the kids, buy a couple new computers and help them with job training and life skills. They just used that to directly help the kids I wanted to help.
When a Mormon "donates" money to their "church," it's not really a "out of the goodness of their heart" thing. To keep membership, members are expected to shovel over 10% of their income, even if that means taking money from the needs of their own families. Don't believe me? Watch this "Tithing and I know it" videowhere they clearly state you should give money to the church before you even pay your own rent.
The Mormons don't use that money to help the poor or feed homeless teenagers, the build castles like this...
...and these.
And then send teenagers all around the world to recruit more people into their "church."
Mitt Romney likes to talk about how he couldn't serve in Vietnam because he was 'serving his church." In actuality, he was lounging around in France, trying to talk French people into becoming Mormons.
The Mormons also shovel millions of those "tax-exempt" donations into funding political campaigns. Mormons donated over $20 MILLION to pass the unconstitutional, anti-gay "Proposition 8." And that was tax-exempt. Yes... tax money was taken away from your community, schools, roads and bridges so my marriage could be nullified.
Not all donations are the same... and not all people donating have the same motivations for doing it.
The difference being that the Koch brothers donate money to people who will make and change laws to benefit the Koch brothers. Most of those "liberal elites" donate money that will better benefit people other than themselves.