Billy Corgan makes funny comment about PJ at Winnipeg show

Poncier

DriftingByTheStorm wrote:

he bitches when people don't move.
he bitches when they DO move.

come on, billy.

you have been instigating and talking shit about your fans worse than Trent Reznor for two decades now.
Just let people do what the fuck they do.

I'm sorry they don't all stand still like the emo-kids and just barely move their heads.


circa gish \ siamese dream, Smashing Pumpkins = one of greatest bands in the world
now = annoying asshole who fired his whole band.

This post could have been made nice and concise with...

"he bithches"...

It pretty much sums up Mr. Sunshine these days.

DewieCox

PillowPants wrote:

i'd also argue that backspacer didn't sound like ten or vs or riot act because they didn't want it to

You may be right, but I'd say while Ten-Riot Act all sounded different they all had some common qualities running through them, which S/T has very little of and on BS it's nonexistent. They just sound like a different band. I'm all for a band moving forward but there are certain qualities that define the best bands and PJ seems to have lost that with the last couple albums. If I had a guess I would say that they are working less as a unit than they used to and I'm not talking about side projects. I'm referring to the time that they are working "together". They've always had different members bringing ideas in, but they always managed to make everything much more cohesive than they have with the last couple albums.

Dr. Delight

Oceania is half of a good album. The first half is reminiscent of the Pumpkins of old, but drops off big time in the second half.
I'm not a huge fan of Backspacer, but in no way is it worse than Oceania.

coco butter

Billy has an insult about Eddie or the band every year. He must really be jealous or something. It must drive him crazy that Eddie and the band are more popular in Chicago than him or his band. And you never hear anything bad from Eddie about Billy. Eddie's thought process is probably like "Dude, I had Kurt Cobain hurling insults at us for a few years. You're never gonna get to me. Get over it."

DewieCox

coco butter wrote:

Billy has an insult about Eddie or the band every year. He must really be jealous or something. It must drive him crazy that Eddie and the band are more popular in Chicago than him or his band. And you never hear anything bad from Eddie about Billy. Eddie's thought process is probably like "Dude, I had Kurt Cobain hurling insults at us for a few years. You're never gonna get to me. Get over it."

He wasn't insulting Eddie or the band and I can't think of a time he's insulted them for a good while.

Red Mosquito75

Hugh Freaking Dillon wrote:

Red Mosquito75 wrote:

I would think every band would want their PJ moment-being one of the greatest rock bands of the last 20 yrs. The pumpkins were pretty good but Billy Corgan is just looking for a pub grab.

he was talking about the fans having their PJ moment, not the band.

I know and that is something a Smashing Pumpkins fans will only get at a PJ show

coco butter

DewieCox wrote:

coco butter wrote:

Billy has an insult about Eddie or the band every year. He must really be jealous or something. It must drive him crazy that Eddie and the band are more popular in Chicago than him or his band. And you never hear anything bad from Eddie about Billy. Eddie's thought process is probably like "Dude, I had Kurt Cobain hurling insults at us for a few years. You're never gonna get to me. Get over it."

He wasn't insulting Eddie or the band and I can't think of a time he's insulted them for a good while.

I cant remember every time Billy said something bad about Eddie or the band but I can remember him putting down Eddie for the Chicago Cubs song a few years ago. He just seems to have something against them.

DewieCox

coco butter wrote:

DewieCox wrote:

coco butter wrote:

Billy has an insult about Eddie or the band every year. He must really be jealous or something. It must drive him crazy that Eddie and the band are more popular in Chicago than him or his band. And you never hear anything bad from Eddie about Billy. Eddie's thought process is probably like "Dude, I had Kurt Cobain hurling insults at us for a few years. You're never gonna get to me. Get over it."

He wasn't insulting Eddie or the band and I can't think of a time he's insulted them for a good while.

I cant remember every time Billy said something bad about Eddie or the band but I can remember him putting down Eddie for the Chicago Cubs song a few years ago. He just seems to have something against them.

At least somebody spoke up about that song.

coco butter

He said something about Eddie back in August that made headlines.

“The first line on ‘Siamese Dream’ is, ‘Freak out and give in, doesn’t matter what you believe in’. I’m saying it right from the beginning, it’s like, ‘It doesn’t matter what happens because you’re living an illusion.’”

Corgan went on to say that anyone who believes “Eddie Vedder was that person and Kurt Cobain was that person and Trent Reznor was that person, is a lie. They were parts of those people, but they weren’t the people they were projecting them to be. When you get picked out in a line in school and you’re the weird one, I’m the weird one, and I’m still here.”

PillowPants

DewieCox wrote:

coco butter wrote:

Billy has an insult about Eddie or the band every year. He must really be jealous or something. It must drive him crazy that Eddie and the band are more popular in Chicago than him or his band. And you never hear anything bad from Eddie about Billy. Eddie's thought process is probably like "Dude, I had Kurt Cobain hurling insults at us for a few years. You're never gonna get to me. Get over it."

He wasn't insulting Eddie or the band and I can't think of a time he's insulted them for a good while.

is june 2012 a good while?

http://grungereport.net/?p=12586

saying you don't like someone isn't technically an insult?

in my tree 76

So true firing his band. LoL

DewieCox

PillowPants wrote:

DewieCox wrote:

coco butter wrote:

Billy has an insult about Eddie or the band every year. He must really be jealous or something. It must drive him crazy that Eddie and the band are more popular in Chicago than him or his band. And you never hear anything bad from Eddie about Billy. Eddie's thought process is probably like "Dude, I had Kurt Cobain hurling insults at us for a few years. You're never gonna get to me. Get over it."

He wasn't insulting Eddie or the band and I can't think of a time he's insulted them for a good while.

is june 2012 a good while?

http://grungereport.net/?p=12586

saying you don't like someone isn't technically an insult?

I think that's closer to a compliment than an insult, and he's pretty right on about the Cubs song there. Not that the song ruined the Cubs chances, but Eddie Vedder is about the biggest fraud Cubs fan there is.

Expatriate

I agree with a lot of the things that have been said thus far. SP in the Gish and Siamese Dream era were great. Oceania is a decent effort but I disagree with Corgan's assertions that he could write material like those albums again but somehow that is beneath him. I also think that Backspacer and Avocado are much better than Oceania, but to each their own.

I wanted to make this post because for the second straight show Billy's inferiority complex made an appearance. I was among the 5000 people at the SP show in Calgary last night. It was entertaining and worth seeing in my opinion. At one point Billy said something to a man in the GA section that went like this... "Hey angry guy, go back to the '90s. Angry guy comes to every show (angry guy is now shouting something back to Billy and giving him a one fingered salute). Angry guy go back to the '90s, Eddie Vedder is there wearing uhh... (The audience helps him come up with the term) flannel. Go back to the '90s, Vedder's there waiting in flannel and a goatee." He then chuckles about his presumed comedic genius.

I don't understand his self-made conflict with Pearl Jam. In my opinion, it just makes him sound ridiculous. If he has reached some higher musical level than any other human why can't he just let us suffer in our misery? I guess musical nirvana must be a lonely place, population 1, Mr. Billy Corgan.

PJ-Cubs

DewieCox wrote:

... but Eddie Vedder is about the biggest fraud Cubs fan there is.

Please explain.

Happy Julio

I agree with this: Oceania > Backspacer

I saw the SP in Milwaukee a week or so ago and they played a 2.5 hour set with one ten minute break. The show was incredible. I don't mind the new band at all.

Billy Corgan is to the SP what Brian Wilson was to the Beach Boys

PJ_Soul

PillowPants wrote:

Hugh Freaking Dillon wrote:

I still don't know what it means to be "relevant" when people say that, but I'd say most people who are not pearl jam fans like we are also say the same thing about them. 90% of the people who loved Ten didn't know they were still together until Backspacer and all the promotion that was done.

I just don't see the Pumpkins playing any corporate gigs or making walmart commercials (nothing wrong with that, but I'm just saying).

You know why you don't see those things happening for the Pumpkins ... because no one is asking them to do it

ding ding ding

PJ_Soul

DewieCox wrote:

PillowPants wrote:

DewieCox wrote:

He wasn't insulting Eddie or the band and I can't think of a time he's insulted them for a good while.

is june 2012 a good while?

http://grungereport.net/?p=12586

saying you don't like someone isn't technically an insult?

I think that's closer to a compliment than an insult, and he's pretty right on about the Cubs song there. Not that the song ruined the Cubs chances, but Eddie Vedder is about the biggest fraud Cubs fan there is.

What do you mean?? I think Eddie is a pretty hard core fan. Doesn't he go to the fantasy training camps and shit??

PJ_Soul

Expatriate wrote:

I agree with a lot of the things that have been said thus far. SP in the Gish and Siamese Dream era were great. Oceania is a decent effort but I disagree with Corgan's assertions that he could write material like those albums again but somehow that is beneath him. I also think that Backspacer and Avocado are much better than Oceania, but to each their own.

I wanted to make this post because for the second straight show Billy's inferiority complex made an appearance. I was among the 5000 people at the SP show in Calgary last night. It was entertaining and worth seeing in my opinion. At one point Billy said something to a man in the GA section that went like this... "Hey angry guy, go back to the '90s. Angry guy comes to every show (angry guy is now shouting something back to Billy and giving him a one fingered salute). Angry guy go back to the '90s, Eddie Vedder is there wearing uhh... (The audience helps him come up with the term) flannel. Go back to the '90s, Vedder's there waiting in flannel and a goatee." He then chuckles about his presumed comedic genius.

I don't understand his self-made conflict with Pearl Jam. In my opinion, it just makes him sound ridiculous. If he has reached some higher musical level than any other human why can't he just let us suffer in our misery? I guess musical nirvana must be a lonely place, population 1, Mr. Billy Corgan.

I agree with you. BC is just making a fool of himself. It's like he's obsessed with rejecting the 90s, which btw are what made him rich and famous, but also it doesn't make any sense. No one is obsessed with the 90s except him, apparently.... he's obsessed about people being obsessed with the 90s when no one actually is. I think he's just a fucking douchebag hipster, judging from his stupid comments, on top of the inferiority complex that you mentioned, and which couldn't be more obvious. It's kind of embarrassing. It's also annoying to see someone with potential just be an a-hole for no apparent reason. Plus, why in the fuck does he keep lipping off his fans??? That is unappealing to say the least. And the album isn't very good IMO, which is fine, except he's acting like Liam-fucking-Gallagher about it.

YLed2

Billy Corgan looks like Dr. Evil in the prior picture in this thread.

laurimae71

DS1119 wrote:

I just opened up a dictionary and looked up the word bitch. It only had one picture and no words.

This is also the same picture when you look up "DOUCHEBAG"........Coincidence? :?