2013 Rock and Roll HoF nominees

DewieCox

The Paul Butterfield Blues Band
Chic
Deep Purple
Heart
Joan Jett and the Blackhearts
Albert King
Kraftwerk
The Marvelettes
The Meters
Randy Newman
N.W.A
Procol Harum
Public Enemy
Rush
Donna Summer

Still some pretty suspect options, but nice to see Rush, Deep Purple and Heart.

marcos

I guess if you're Rush, you would accept to sell records or whatever, but still disrespectful? I really hope PJ holds out for Kiss, just would be so cool as the Hall of Fame is a glorified Grammy at the end of the day.

uninnocent-

From that list, I'd like to see Deep Purple, Heart and Rush get the nod this year. It won't actually go down like that, but it'd be nice to see.

StillHere

Deep Purple
and
Procol Harum were 2 of my favs back in the 70s!
Procol Harum was my psych go to.
Great bands!

Course Neil Young has already been honored or we'd have to go there.

DewieCox

marcos wrote:

I guess if you're Rush, you would accept to sell records or whatever, but still disrespectful? I really hope PJ holds out for Kiss, just would be so cool as the Hall of Fame is a glorified Grammy at the end of the day.

PJ won't hold out for Kiss. And just like Grammys, bands are appreciative the respect paid to their music or body of work. The only reason Ed dissed the Grammys is b/c it was the cool thing to do. They'll jump at the chance to be inducted to the HoF.

uninnocent- wrote:

From that list, I'd like to see Deep Purple, Heart and Rush get the nod this year. It won't actually go down like that, but it'd be nice to see.

I'll be surprised if those 3 bands don't get the nod. HoF wants some big names to attach to the hype leading up to the induction and those are about the best options there. I'd put money on Public Enemy as well.

uninnocent-

I can see them giving Randy Newman or Public Enemy a nod before one or two of my picks.

Bronx Bombers

Besides Deep Purple, Heart and Rush all of the following belong

YES
Moody Blues
Doobie Brothers
Stevie Ray Vaughn
Supertramp
Steve Miller Band
Bad Company
Foreigner
Emerson Lake and Palmer
The Cars
The Cure
Kiss

Digital Twilight

Albert King

DewieCox

Bronx Bombers wrote:

Besides Deep Purple, Heart and Rush all of the following belong

YES
Moody Blues
Doobie Brothers
Stevie Ray Vaughn
Supertramp
Steve Miller Band
Bad Company
Foreigner
Emerson Lake and Palmer
The Cars
The Cure
Kiss

Replace Foreigner with Iron Maiden and you have a list. Was Foreigner ever anything other than butt rock?

dimitrispearljam

Deep Purple



where is the Cure and Iron Maiden...

Bronx Bombers

There first 4 albums were great after that not so much.

Feels like the First time
Cold as Ice
Hot Blooded
Double Vision
Head Games
Urgent
Juke Box Hero

LukinFan

NWA and PE - loved both of them in the 80's/90's - just don't get how they are Rock and Roll HoF nominees

jamburger

LukinFan wrote:

NWA and PE - loved both of them in the 80's/90's - just don't get how they are Rock and Roll HoF nominees

"The definition of 'rock and roll' means different things to different people, but as broad as the classifications may be, they all share a common love of the music," said Joel Peresman, President and CEO of the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame Foundation. "This year we again proudly put forth a fantastic array of groups and artists that span the entire genre that is 'rock and roll'."

bluegrace

My pick is Donna Summer.

Bronx Bombers

jamburger wrote:

LukinFan wrote:

NWA and PE - loved both of them in the 80's/90's - just don't get how they are Rock and Roll HoF nominees

"The definition of 'rock and roll' means different things to different people, but as broad as the classifications may be, they all share a common love of the music," said Joel Peresman, President and CEO of the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame Foundation. "This year we again proudly put forth a fantastic array of groups and artists that span the entire genre that is 'rock and roll'."

They should just call it the music hall of fame.

Mamasan23

I personally hate Kiss, but come on already!!! It's meaningless without them in it!

I really like the Kraftwerk and Randy Newman noms though.

jamburger

For the first time in its history, the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame will offer fans the opportunity to officially participate in the induction selection process. Beginning on Thursday, October 4 and continuing through December 3, the public can vote for the five nominees they believe to be most deserving of induction into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame. The top five artists, as selected by the public, will comprise a “fans’ ballot” that will be tallied along with the other ballots to choose the 2013 inductees.

http://rockhall.com/get-involved/interact/poll/

SatansFuton

Procul Harum kind of surprises me. I like them, but they weren't commercially very popular. I can honestly say I've never heard a single Procul Harum song on the radio or in other media, other than "Whiter Shade Of Pale". I wouldn't call them one hit wonders (even though I've heard much more successful bands hit with that label) but the general public knows them for that one song. Even if a lot of the general public doesn't actually know the name of the band that plays the song. They have a lot more to offer than that one song, and I'm not saying that nomination/membership should be decided by commercial success, it just seemed like a strange pick for this institution, which does seem to hold commercial success in high regard.

evenflow82

I won't get a lot of support for this, but the Paul Butterfield Blues Band is criminally underrated. I remember buying their first two albums in high school (ten years ago) and being blown away.

If you have never heard the song 'East West' from 1966, hang on tight. The amount of twists and turns in this song in amazing. It took some guts to do a 13 minute long eastern guitar jam in the studio back then.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YaV-S5ivX3E

Michael Bloomfield was an amazing guitarist who inspired Dylan to go electric at the newport folk festival in 1965. Check out 'I've Got a Mind to Give Up Living' live in 1966.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L8GZUZavklw

Nami

evenflow82 wrote:

I won't get a lot of support for this, but the Paul Butterfield Blues Band is criminally underrated. I remember buying their first two albums in high school (ten years ago) and being blown away.

If you have never heard the song 'East West' from 1966, hang on tight. The amount of twists and turns in this song in amazing. It took some guts to do a 13 minute long eastern guitar jam in the studio back then.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YaV-S5ivX3E

Michael Bloomfield was an amazing guitarist who inspired Dylan to go electric at the newport folk festival in 1965. Check out 'I've Got a Mind to Give Up Living' live in 1966.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L8GZUZavklw

Wow simply WOW thank you

Hugh Freaking Dillon

DewieCox wrote:

PJ won't hold out for Kiss. And just like Grammys, bands are appreciative the respect paid to their music or body of work. The only reason Ed dissed the Grammys is b/c it was the cool thing to do. They'll jump at the chance to be inducted to the HoF.

I disagree with this. I don't think Ed did that as it was the cool thing to do. I think he honestly thought (as I do as well) that award shows where one person's art is pitted in competition with another person's art is stupid. it's totally subjective and should not be a competition.

one could argue that RRHOF is also a contest, since not everyone gets in, but to me it's more a celebration of the band itself, not the band being better than someone else.

that being said, I still think the Hall is a joke for the bands it has left out completely or waited so long that it was almost a slap in the face when they finally got in.

catefrances

public enemy. :thumbup:

g under p

Hugh Freaking Dillon wrote:

DewieCox wrote:

PJ won't hold out for Kiss. And just like Grammys, bands are appreciative the respect paid to their music or body of work. The only reason Ed dissed the Grammys is b/c it was the cool thing to do. They'll jump at the chance to be inducted to the HoF.

I disagree with this. I don't think Ed did that as it was the cool thing to do. I think he honestly thought (as I do as well) that award shows where one person's art is pitted in competition with another person's art is stupid. it's totally subjective and should not be a competition.

one could argue that RRHOF is also a contest, since not everyone gets in, but to me it's more a celebration of the band itself, not the band being better than someone else.

that being said, I still think the Hall is a joke for the bands it has left out completely or waited so long that it was almost a slap in the face when they finally got in.

Therefore one of the main reasons I hope that RUSH NEVER gets in. Way too many good pioneering bands out there not in based on the opinions of a bunch of men/women in some dark room.

Peace

DewieCox

Hugh Freaking Dillon wrote:

DewieCox wrote:

PJ won't hold out for Kiss. And just like Grammys, bands are appreciative the respect paid to their music or body of work. The only reason Ed dissed the Grammys is b/c it was the cool thing to do. They'll jump at the chance to be inducted to the HoF.

I disagree with this. I don't think Ed did that as it was the cool thing to do. I think he honestly thought (as I do as well) that award shows where one person's art is pitted in competition with another person's art is stupid. it's totally subjective and should not be a competition.

Then why did he bother to show up? I think it was partly to live up to an image. Not saying he agreed with the art as a competition aspect, but he appreciated the award enough to show up. Actions speak louder than words.

I personally have mixed feelings about stuff like this. Music is definitely overwhelmingly an artistic statement, but it's also a skill built through hard work and dedication to a craft. I get that nobody is ever going to agree that a song is well written or every note of an album is perfectly placed, but I'm fine if a group of people wanna give out awards for music or any art for that matter. Not trying to defend the Grammy or say that every decision they've ever made is the right one, but if they wanna give out a trophy and artists wanna show up and accept them and make a big deal out of them I'm not gonna get bent out of shape or say "that shit's meaningless". It obviously means something to alot of people, fans, musicians and otherwise.

pjfaninindiana

I never understood the Ed/ Grammys thing either. If you don't like it or want it, then don't show up if it's meaningless.

On another subject, i can't believe so many people want Kiss in the HOF. I'm sure i'll get shit for this, but they were(and still are) a joke band, who cared more about money, publicity, and fame rather than music itself. Hopefully they will not make it, Gene's ego is big enough as it is.

PissBottleMan

I've been having a debate with a friend of mine over the inclusion of rap/hip hop. I'm all for it. I think it's paramount to include pioneers in their respective genres into the Hall.

Public Enemy and NWA helped change the landscape of rap back in the late 80's and early 90's.

My friend is a purist and believes only "rock n roll" acts belong in the hall.

My belief is that people seem to be hung up on the terminology. Yes, it's call "Rock And Roll Hall Of Fame", but it clearly embodies all forms of music. I can't imagine a Hall Of Fame with The Four Tops, Bee Gees or Aretha Franklin. Those acts are not rock and roll per se...but crucial to the evolution of the art form.

Don't get me wrong, I think the selection process and bias against certain acts is suspect. However, looking over the list of honorees, it shows where we've come in music and, hopefully, where we're going. That's the type of Hall of Fame I'd like to see.

PBM

DewieCox

pjfaninindiana wrote:

I never understood the Ed/ Grammys thing either. If you don't like it or want it, then don't show up if it's meaningless.

On another subject, i can't believe so many people want Kiss in the HOF. I'm sure i'll get shit for this, but they were(and still are) a joke band, who cared more about money, publicity, and fame rather than music itself. Hopefully they will not make it, Gene's ego is big enough as it is.

Kiss is immensely influential from the makeup, and live shows to the merchandise, which we as PJ fans can surely appreciate. And they were actually a pretty damn find rock and roll outfit long before they became the joke they are now.

SatansFuton

PissBottleMan wrote:

I've been having a debate with a friend of mine over the inclusion of rap/hip hop. I'm all for it. I think it's paramount to include pioneers in their respective genres into the Hall.

Public Enemy and NWA helped change the landscape of rap back in the late 80's and early 90's.

My friend is a purist and believes only "rock n roll" acts belong in the hall.

My belief is that people seem to be hung up on the terminology. Yes, it's call "Rock And Roll Hall Of Fame", but it clearly embodies all forms of music. I can't imagine a Hall Of Fame with The Four Tops, Bee Gees or Aretha Franklin. Those acts are not rock and roll per se...but crucial to the evolution of the art form.

Don't get me wrong, I think the selection process and bias against certain acts is suspect. However, looking over the list of honorees, it shows where we've come in music and, hopefully, where we're going. That's the type of Hall of Fame I'd like to see.

PBM

I'm a little bit of a purist also, but I've never really had any problems with the inductees who didn't seem all that Rock, because they usually were influential on rock. And a lot of those early performers who don't seem all that Rock like Billie Holliday, Nat King Cole, Robert Johnson, Jimmie Rodgers, etc. are inducted in the "Early Influences" category as opposed to "Performer".

Newch91

jamburger wrote:

For the first time in its history, the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame will offer fans the opportunity to officially participate in the induction selection process. Beginning on Thursday, October 4 and continuing through December 3, the public can vote for the five nominees they believe to be most deserving of induction into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame. The top five artists, as selected by the public, will comprise a “fans’ ballot” that will be tallied along with the other ballots to choose the 2013 inductees.

http://rockhall.com/get-involved/interact/poll/

Surprised no one else has commented on this. I've already put my vote in for Rush, Deep Purple, and Heart. I think I did Donna Summer and Albert King, also.

kwdaley

Deep Purple for sure (but Ian Paice has said that he would prefer to decline it as it is long overdue)
Rush
Heart
Public Enemy (without a doubt, the thinking man's rap group... yes, even with Flavor Flav LOL)
Kraftwerk (influenced a generation of alternative/electronic groups... without them I doubt Joy Division/New Order, Depeche Mode would have sounded the same).

My 5 picks.

As much as I love Joan Jett, most of her hits were cover songs. Would love to see The Runaways inducted instead... they were truly the first girl band.

SatansFuton

My 5 (in no particular order)

Deep Purple
Joan Jett And The Black Hearts
Randy Newman
Albert King
Procul Harum (even though I was surprised by their nomination, I voted for them)