Romney hits a triple.

Prince Of DorknessPrince Of Dorkness Posts: 3,763
edited September 2012 in A Moving Train
All in the span of a single day, Mitt Romney has given us so many head-in-ass statements, the news can't figure out which one to concentrate on.

He demonstrated his lack of a grasp of the laws of physics by complaining that you can't roll down the windows on an airplane.

Then he demonstrated his total disconnection from reality about the cost and type of care one gets in an emergency room (and who pays for it) when He said that uninsured people don't need health insurance, but instead can go to the Emergency Room for "free" health care. Where he apparently thinks you can get free chemo therapy and brain surgery, I guess.

He then released his 2011 tax return that was filed with glaring omissions, including not writing off charitable donations in order to keep him above the 13% rate... Thus disproving his statement that he never paid any more than he legally had to. (Those corrections can and probably will be made after the election).



Not to be left out, Paul Ryan said that it's in the nature of conservatives to complain.

What's scary is that his mega-donors are pushing on with supporting voter ID laws that intentionally target black and Hispanic Americans and shorten voting times in black ad Hispanic neighborhoods. They can't win the election so they plan to just steal it.
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  • whygohomewhygohome Posts: 2,305
    All in the span of a single day, Mitt Romney has given us so many head-in-ass statements, the news can't figure out which one to concentrate on.

    He demonstrated his lack of a grasp of the laws of physics by complaining that you can't roll down the windows on an airplane.

    Then he demonstrated his total disconnection from reality about the cost and type of care one gets in an emergency room (and who pays for it) when He said that uninsured people don't need health insurance, but instead can go to the Emergency Room for "free" health care. Where he apparently thinks you can get free chemo therapy and brain surgery, I guess.

    He then released his 2011 tax return that was filed with glaring omissions, including not writing off charitable donations in order to keep him above the 13% rate... Thus disproving his statement that he never paid any more than he legally had to. (Those corrections can and probably will be made after the election).



    Not to be left out, Paul Ryan said that it's in the nature of conservatives to complain.

    What's scary is that his mega-donors are pushing on with supporting voter ID laws that intentionally target black and Hispanic Americans and shorten voting times in black ad Hispanic neighborhoods. They can't win the election so they plan to just steal it.

    You left something out in your thread title:
    Romney hits a triple....off a tee his daddy set up for him. It's just like what happened to that other guy, George something....
  • Godfather.Godfather. Posts: 12,504
    boy are you guy's gonna be pissed when/if he wins the election :lol::lol::lol:

    Godfather.
  • whygohomewhygohome Posts: 2,305
    Godfather. wrote:
    boy are you guy's gonna be pissed when/if he wins the election :lol::lol::lol:

    Godfather.

    I still think he is going to win. I won't be pissed. I'll just make my second job--commodities trader--my permanent job. That's who will profit the most.
  • I don't think it's fair to blame George Romney for mitt. George Romney isn't anyone I would vote for now... But he also was quite an honorable guy and I think unlike his son, he really did want to be president to help the people, not just himself.

    And saying nice stuff about a Mormon hurts my soul, so you know I don't say that flippantly.

    As far as who's going to win... Although there are a lot of predictions and projections, it really is too far out from the election to know with any certainty.
  • mikepegg44mikepegg44 Posts: 3,353
    Ultimately I don't think Romney will have an affect on the election himself. Sure there are some things that could come out I suppose, but this election will be a referendum on the president. Romney is just the guy people will vote for if they don't want 4 more years. I have yet to meet anyone at the Caucuses or the subsequent conventions I attended that was a staunch supporter of Romney. Not that Minnesota is a hot bed for the GOP, but no one being excited about the guy speaks loudly this close to the election.

    The only reason I ever heard of people supporting him was that he stands the best chance to win...I wonder if people feel the same now...i didn't think he did then, and I don't think he does now.
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  • Johnny AbruzzoJohnny Abruzzo Philly Posts: 11,938
    That statement on the ER was a disaster.

    If you can, watch this video:

    http://thepage.time.com/2012/09/24/romney-and-health-care/?iid=sl-main-arenapage

    With the tax thing, I'm so sick of hearing the Mormon Church referred to as a "charity" - what bullshit. He's tithing, which is something he chooses to do (god knows why ;) ), not setting up soup kitchens.

    I wish I could put the window down in my fucking office. :twisted:
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  • whygohomewhygohome Posts: 2,305
    mikepegg44 wrote:
    Ultimately I don't think Romney will have an affect on the election himself. Sure there are some things that could come out I suppose, but this election will be a referendum on the president. Romney is just the guy people will vote for if they don't want 4 more years. I have yet to meet anyone at the Caucuses or the subsequent conventions I attended that was a staunch supporter of Romney. Not that Minnesota is a hot bed for the GOP, but no one being excited about the guy speaks loudly this close to the election.

    The only reason I ever heard of people supporting him was that he stands the best chance to win...I wonder if people feel the same now...i didn't think he did then, and I don't think he does now.

    I'm not a Republican, but if I was, I feel that I would be quite excited about the Romney/Ryan ticket. What's the deal?
  • whygohomewhygohome Posts: 2,305
    That statement on the ER was a disaster.

    If you can, watch this video:

    http://thepage.time.com/2012/09/24/romney-and-health-care/?iid=sl-main-arenapage

    With the tax thing, I'm so sick of hearing the Mormon Church referred to as a "charity" - what bullshit. He's tithing, which is something he chooses to do (god knows why ;) ), not setting up soup kitchens.

    I wish I could put the window down in my fucking office. :twisted:

    An absolutely idiotic statement. And who pays those ER bills?
  • whygohome wrote:

    I'm not a Republican, but if I was, I feel that I would be quite excited about the Romney/Ryan ticket. What's the deal?

    Not sure I would, to be honest.

    Maybe if it was just personal and I hated the president and just wanted anyone but him. But once it became clear that he doesn't really seem like he even wants to be president for anything other than being president... That would give me pause.

    The two statements that I think have soured a lot of the republican base were the infamous 47% comment and now the ER one. Before, it was easy to write off democrats as "stupid" or "socialists" or "wimps." Those aren't accurate anymore than saying similar things about republicans... But it was easy to say "the problem is them" and make it about personality or intellect or even just basic ideology. Make it a "hooray for our team" thing.

    But that 47% stament hit home for a lot of the republican base who voted "conservative" on social issues... Marriage equality and reproductive rights and immigration reform. But there is the nominee telling the Republcian/Christian single mother working nearly full time at Walmart and taking food stamps and Medicaid that she's lazy and part of the problem. That his job is to just write her off.

    ER one is worse. Because while he's technically right that if you have a heart attack that you go to the emergency room (people WITH insurance do that, too), they don't provide preventative care or on-going treatment. If your child has diabetes, the emergency room isn't going to be help to them. If your wife has cancer, the emergency room isn't much help to you, either.

    If you're a veteran who had his legs blown off in the war and is on disability, you know that the kind of care you need isn't available at the ER and now you also know that the republican nominee thinks you're a moocher who "feels entitled to food."
  • Johnny AbruzzoJohnny Abruzzo Philly Posts: 11,938
    edited September 2012
    Still on the "ER" thing:

    What this goes back to is the crazy Tea Party faction has driven the GOP and Romney so far into reactionary territory that he can't figure out how to talk about a topic, health care, that he is extremely well versed on. So he says ridiculous things like this and blatantly contradicts himself.

    I mean, I think Romney is a bad candidate, but he could've had a better campaign if he ran on his Massachusetts record, working with Democrats and all. Instead we got this caricature of the disturbing current day Republican Party.

    The Party has lost 4 of the last 5 presidential popular votes and has nobody to blame but itself for alienating so much of the country.
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  • And those are not "gaffes." Those aren't him "miss speaking."

    As someone who spent a lot of time surrounded by the obnoxious blue bloods and was often at their garden parties... They all think that.

    They think that the only reason that anyone isn't rich is that they're a bunch of lazy shits. They think that people who aren't rich are just a bunch of drunk bums with their floppy hands out begging for everything.

    They will openly talk about the people who work for minimum wage like they're talking about sub-human beings and they do it in front of the wait staff. While we're on the subject of the wait staff... Who do you think shot that video? My guess is a gay waiter who saw his chance to show the voters just what kind of person they were voting for. And that's probably who painted him brick red to go on Univision, too.
  • mikepegg44mikepegg44 Posts: 3,353
    whygohome wrote:
    mikepegg44 wrote:
    Ultimately I don't think Romney will have an affect on the election himself. Sure there are some things that could come out I suppose, but this election will be a referendum on the president. Romney is just the guy people will vote for if they don't want 4 more years. I have yet to meet anyone at the Caucuses or the subsequent conventions I attended that was a staunch supporter of Romney. Not that Minnesota is a hot bed for the GOP, but no one being excited about the guy speaks loudly this close to the election.

    The only reason I ever heard of people supporting him was that he stands the best chance to win...I wonder if people feel the same now...i didn't think he did then, and I don't think he does now.

    I'm not a Republican, but if I was, I feel that I would be quite excited about the Romney/Ryan ticket. What's the deal?

    For the record I am not a member of the GOP either, just attended the caucuses to get Ron Paul some delegates which allowed me to see it from an outsiders perspective. Think about it, primaries are popular votes that people understand and go vote. Caucuses take effort, he didn't have a whole lot of success at the caucus level without blatant rule changing. And that was more anti RP than pro Romney :lol: Caucuses take an energized base, primaries take a little to no effort outside of carpet bombing negative adds.

    what do they offer that will be different from the standard GOP ticket, they offer no specifics, just the same old philosophy of don't touch defense spending. They will borrow slightly less than the current gov't (big maybe here though, depends on if they are going to start WWIII). They will not stop the base line increases.

    They aren't revolutionary in anyway. Romney doesn't possess the leadership qualities that get out the vote. Like I said, they will be plenty happy to vote for him because they don't like Obama, but as far as actually going out of their way to support Mitt because of his policies, well, I don't see a lot of that in the GOP in my neck of the woods. Minnesota will definitely go Blue once again.

    But again, that is simply my opinion on the matter, I don't have a lot of data to back it up, but I have a hard time thinking that people, when the question is posed, would admit they are voting against someone rather than for someone else.
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  • JonnyPistachioJonnyPistachio Florida Posts: 10,219
    Are there debates scheduled yet? :corn:
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  • Johnny AbruzzoJohnny Abruzzo Philly Posts: 11,938
    Are there debates scheduled yet? :corn:

    Yeah, 3 plus a VP debate. First is I think Oct 2.

    Obama hasn't exactly been acing his interviews either.
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  • Johnny AbruzzoJohnny Abruzzo Philly Posts: 11,938
    whygohome wrote:
    You left something out in your thread title:
    Romney hits a triple....off a tee his daddy set up for him. It's just like what happened to that other guy, George something....

    Can't believe nobody has said "Born on 3rd"... ;)
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  • Republican Blowhard Peggy Noonan says that Romney is acting like the Jockey who rode Seabiscuit and thinks he won a race.

    And when Peggy Noonan slags you off, that's bad. Really bad. She's the one who would only talk badly about Sarah Palin when she thought the mic was off.
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