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ayashin716ayashin716 Posts: 95
edited September 2012 in The Porch
Just got a turntable last week, and the Backspacer LP today. Been having some problems with pretty much the whole record skipping constantly. I have tried screwing with the tone arm but it doesn't seem to help. The penny trick worked but I hear that's a horrible idea for the vinyl and needle. Any ideas?
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  • Grandmas JamGrandmas Jam Posts: 1,860
    ayashin716 wrote:
    Just got a turntable last week, and the Backspacer LP today. Been having some problems with pretty much the whole record skipping constantly. I have tried screwing with the tone arm but it doesn't seem to help. The penny trick worked but I hear that's a horrible idea for the vinyl and needle. Any ideas?
    what is the 'penny trick'? have you tried another vinyl. it could just be the lp you're trying to listen to.
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  • theJawastheJawas Posts: 395
    Grandmas Jam wrote:
    ayashin716 wrote:
    Just got a turntable last week, and the Backspacer LP today. Been having some problems with pretty much the whole record skipping constantly. I have tried screwing with the tone arm but it doesn't seem to help. The penny trick worked but I hear that's a horrible idea for the vinyl and needle. Any ideas?
    what is the 'penny trick'? have you tried another vinyl. it could just be the lp you're trying to listen to.

    Penny (or dime, I think I've usually done) trick is putting it on the end of the arm to keep it down. Supposedly prevents skipping.
  • ayashin716ayashin716 Posts: 95
    Grandmas Jam wrote:
    ayashin716 wrote:
    Just got a turntable last week, and the Backspacer LP today. Been having some problems with pretty much the whole record skipping constantly. I have tried screwing with the tone arm but it doesn't seem to help. The penny trick worked but I hear that's a horrible idea for the vinyl and needle. Any ideas?
    what is the 'penny trick'? have you tried another vinyl. it could just be the lp you're trying to listen to.
    the penny trick is placing a penny on the tone arm close to the needle to give it more weight. the weird thing is the backspacer lp is brand new from this site. are there cases of bad pressings?
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  • Grandmas JamGrandmas Jam Posts: 1,860
    ayashin716 wrote:
    Grandmas Jam wrote:
    ayashin716 wrote:
    Just got a turntable last week, and the Backspacer LP today. Been having some problems with pretty much the whole record skipping constantly. I have tried screwing with the tone arm but it doesn't seem to help. The penny trick worked but I hear that's a horrible idea for the vinyl and needle. Any ideas?
    what is the 'penny trick'? have you tried another vinyl. it could just be the lp you're trying to listen to.
    the penny trick is placing a penny on the tone arm close to the needle to give it more weight. the weird thing is the backspacer lp is brand new from this site. are there cases of bad pressings?
    at which end? why dont you just adjust the balance on the tone arm instead of using the penny? there should be an adjustable "weight" at the end of the arm (not where the needle is, the other side) for you to adjust it. dont make the side with the needle too heavy or it can possible ruin the vinyl. that could fix your problem.
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  • love-boat-captainlove-boat-captain Essex. UK Posts: 476
    Yeah I'd say check the balance of the arm, otherwise you are gonna damage your records. That's if you can change the balance.
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  • ayashin716ayashin716 Posts: 95
    love-boat-captain wrote:
    Yeah I'd say check the balance of the arm, otherwise you are gonna damage your records. That's if you can change the balance.
    I keep reading about floating tonearms and anti-skating google. This arm doesn't seem to float with any balance I use and I have to way of messing with anti-skating. Perhaps I'll look for a better turntable.Very frustrating.
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  • lotsalemonlotsalemon Boston Posts: 2,739
    ayashin716 wrote:
    I keep reading about floating tonearms and anti-skating google. This arm doesn't seem to float with any balance I use and I have to way of messing with anti-skating. Perhaps I'll look for a better turntable.Very frustrating.

    What turntable do you have? We may be able to walk you through some steps to optimize it if we know the make/model.
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  • NamiNami Newfoundland Posts: 5,998
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    at which end? why dont you just adjust the balance on the tone arm instead of using the penny? there should be an adjustable "weight" at the end of the arm (not where the needle is, the other side) for you to adjust it. dont make the side with the needle too heavy or it can possible ruin the vinyl. that could fix your problem.[/quote]

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  • ayashin716ayashin716 Posts: 95
    lotsalemon wrote:
    ayashin716 wrote:
    I keep reading about floating tonearms and anti-skating google. This arm doesn't seem to float with any balance I use and I have to way of messing with anti-skating. Perhaps I'll look for a better turntable.Very frustrating.

    What turntable do you have? We may be able to walk you through some steps to optimize it if we know the make/model.
    It's an ion iLP.
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  • Joey EakinsJoey Eakins Posts: 663
    I am not saying that it is the physical record itself, but I had to buy 3 Backspacer LPs in order to get one that played. The first 2 skipped a lot, and the 3rd one that worked happened to be the white one. Good luck. I hope it is something easy because nothing is more frustrating than getting a record player and vinyl and not being able to enjoy it.
  • pjradiopjradio Posts: 6,704
    anyway to take a pic of the tone-arm assembly?...hard to see whats going on back there on the iLPs website
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  • PJ_SoulPJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,403
    ayashin716 wrote:
    love-boat-captain wrote:
    Yeah I'd say check the balance of the arm, otherwise you are gonna damage your records. That's if you can change the balance.
    I keep reading about floating tonearms and anti-skating google. This arm doesn't seem to float with any balance I use and I have to way of messing with anti-skating. Perhaps I'll look for a better turntable.Very frustrating.
    Sounds like the balance or anti-skid or both is not working properly on your turntable. If you don't work it out, I'd take the turntable to an audio store that sells turntables and have them look at it. They should be able to either fix it or let you know that it's defective. Or it's the record somehow... try another (shitty) record and see what happens... it doesn't sound like a problem with the vinyl to me though.
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  • JP33JP33 Posts: 1,348
    should not do that......take back the turntable
    ayashin716 wrote:
    Just got a turntable last week, and the Backspacer LP today. Been having some problems with pretty much the whole record skipping constantly. I have tried screwing with the tone arm but it doesn't seem to help. The penny trick worked but I hear that's a horrible idea for the vinyl and needle. Any ideas?
  • tallman72tallman72 Posts: 353
    go and buy a 50cent vinyl to test on
  • brianluxbrianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,236
    It's possible it could be the vinyl. I have record from the 60's and 70's that sound better than many new vinyl records. But my 10C singles all sound good so I would think PJ records should have good or better quality. In any case, don't mess with adding weight to your tone arm. That will destroy you LPs. With a good turn table that has a good cartridge and stylus your records should last a long time. If the player has tone arm weight and anti-skate adjustment, find out from the dealer or manufacturer how to set them properly. If it doesn't have those adjustments, see if you can take it back and replace it with a better unit. If the record still doesn't play without skipping after all that, ask for a replacement for the LP.

    Good luck!
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