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edited September 2012 in A Moving Train
Blue Jays’ Yunel Escobar played game with homophobic slur written across eyeblack

http://www.thestar.com/sports/baseball/ ... -eye-black

Pretty sad...MLB will come down hard on him.

Should the jays be punished? I'm sure they have Spanish speaking coaches who noticed this.
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  • polaris_xpolaris_x Posts: 13,559
    the guy is a sack of shit player anyways ... :)

    as far as the punishment ... i think patrick burke said that he would rather have education vs suspension and i would tend to agree ... at the end of the day - whether he plays another game this season is not gonna be a huge factor as far as the jays or mlb is concerned ...
  • keeponrockinkeeponrockin Posts: 7,446
    Now would be a good time for one of his team mates to publicly denounce what he said/did.
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  • lukin2006lukin2006 Posts: 9,087
    I'm more curious as to if the jays have a spanish speaking coach...which I imagine they do...will they be reprimanded by the league?

    I think he should be suspended, fined and loss of pay.

    To me it's disgusting that he did it in the first place and secondly that another Spanish speaking members of the jays did not bring this to the attention of management.
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  • Jason PJason P Posts: 19,156
    Pretty, pretty dumb.
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  • Godfather.Godfather. Posts: 12,504
    there's that word again :lol: homophobic :lol::lol:
    well that wassn't very bright was it...he could have used different wording like "straight pride" but nooooo !
    :lol::lol::lol:
    maybe he didn't mean it in a sexual way at all...it could have been a messege for someone he is pissed at..who knows ?

    Godfather.
  • Godfather.Godfather. Posts: 12,504
    Yes, it can mean ‘You are a faggot’. But according to Cuervo, context is everything. The word is a derivation of the proper name Maria del Carmen. The diminutive form of that name has morphed into an effeminizing epithet that has a clear gender component, but not necessarily a sexual one.

    “I would take it as, ‘You are like a girl. You’re weak’,” Cuervo said. “I don’t curse much, so I don’t know the appropriate level in English. It has to be something like ‘wuss’.”

    In Spanish-speaking families, according to Cuervo, parents might refer to a 7-year-old boy who’s crying as a maricon, as in ‘Don’t be such a baby’. You might say the same thing in the same situation to a female child.

    “If anything, it’s sexism against women,” Cuervo said wryly. Overall, she didn’t seem predisposed to be shocked by the use of the word: “It’s trash talking.”

    She also noted a point of grammar. The word (and the insult) is made stronger if maricon is used as a noun. It isn’t in this case, because there is no un modifying it (as in un maricon).

    Given all that, the use of the word ‘faggot’ as a catch-all translation would seem an oversimplification.

    It’s possible that Escobar meant ‘maricon’ in its inter-familial form. Not at all likely, but possible.

    Given that he isn’t walking into a time warp that takes him back to 1890 after every game and that he should have some instinct for survival, it seems quite possible that Escobar meant the word in its de-sexualized context, as a generic goof.

    maybe using the english language while you're here making good money playing on an American Baseball Team would clear up any misunderstandings about what he ment to say...

    Godfather.
  • adam42381adam42381 Kernersville, NC Posts: 2,515
    Godfather. wrote:
    Yes, it can mean ‘You are a faggot’. But according to Cuervo, context is everything. The word is a derivation of the proper name Maria del Carmen. The diminutive form of that name has morphed into an effeminizing epithet that has a clear gender component, but not necessarily a sexual one.

    “I would take it as, ‘You are like a girl. You’re weak’,” Cuervo said. “I don’t curse much, so I don’t know the appropriate level in English. It has to be something like ‘wuss’.”

    In Spanish-speaking families, according to Cuervo, parents might refer to a 7-year-old boy who’s crying as a maricon, as in ‘Don’t be such a baby’. You might say the same thing in the same situation to a female child.

    “If anything, it’s sexism against women,” Cuervo said wryly. Overall, she didn’t seem predisposed to be shocked by the use of the word: “It’s trash talking.”

    She also noted a point of grammar. The word (and the insult) is made stronger if maricon is used as a noun. It isn’t in this case, because there is no un modifying it (as in un maricon).

    Given all that, the use of the word ‘faggot’ as a catch-all translation would seem an oversimplification.

    It’s possible that Escobar meant ‘maricon’ in its inter-familial form. Not at all likely, but possible.

    Given that he isn’t walking into a time warp that takes him back to 1890 after every game and that he should have some instinct for survival, it seems quite possible that Escobar meant the word in its de-sexualized context, as a generic goof.

    maybe using the english language while you're here making good money playing on an American Baseball Team would clear up any misunderstandings about what he ment to say...

    Godfather.
    Is there a source for this or are we supposed to know who Cuervo is?
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  • blackredyellowblackredyellow Posts: 5,889
    Godfather. wrote:
    Yes, it can mean ‘You are a faggot’. But according to Cuervo, context is everything. The word is a derivation of the proper name Maria del Carmen. The diminutive form of that name has morphed into an effeminizing epithet that has a clear gender component, but not necessarily a sexual one.

    “I would take it as, ‘You are like a girl. You’re weak’,” Cuervo said. “I don’t curse much, so I don’t know the appropriate level in English. It has to be something like ‘wuss’.”

    In Spanish-speaking families, according to Cuervo, parents might refer to a 7-year-old boy who’s crying as a maricon, as in ‘Don’t be such a baby’. You might say the same thing in the same situation to a female child.

    “If anything, it’s sexism against women,” Cuervo said wryly. Overall, she didn’t seem predisposed to be shocked by the use of the word: “It’s trash talking.”

    She also noted a point of grammar. The word (and the insult) is made stronger if maricon is used as a noun. It isn’t in this case, because there is no un modifying it (as in un maricon).

    Given all that, the use of the word ‘faggot’ as a catch-all translation would seem an oversimplification.

    It’s possible that Escobar meant ‘maricon’ in its inter-familial form. Not at all likely, but possible.

    Given that he isn’t walking into a time warp that takes him back to 1890 after every game and that he should have some instinct for survival, it seems quite possible that Escobar meant the word in its de-sexualized context, as a generic goof.

    maybe using the english language while you're here making good money playing on an American Baseball Team would clear up any misunderstandings about what he ment to say...

    Godfather.

    To MLB, it shouldn't matter. Granted, the anti-gay aspect (if that was intended) gets all of the media attention, but even if he had "You are a pussy" written in eye black, MLB has to come down hard on him for it.

    You just can't allow that sort of public display.
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  • Godfather.Godfather. Posts: 12,504
    adam42381 wrote:
    Godfather. wrote:
    Yes, it can mean ‘You are a faggot’. But according to Cuervo, context is everything. The word is a derivation of the proper name Maria del Carmen. The diminutive form of that name has morphed into an effeminizing epithet that has a clear gender component, but not necessarily a sexual one.

    “I would take it as, ‘You are like a girl. You’re weak’,” Cuervo said. “I don’t curse much, so I don’t know the appropriate level in English. It has to be something like ‘wuss’.”

    In Spanish-speaking families, according to Cuervo, parents might refer to a 7-year-old boy who’s crying as a maricon, as in ‘Don’t be such a baby’. You might say the same thing in the same situation to a female child.

    “If anything, it’s sexism against women,” Cuervo said wryly. Overall, she didn’t seem predisposed to be shocked by the use of the word: “It’s trash talking.”

    She also noted a point of grammar. The word (and the insult) is made stronger if maricon is used as a noun. It isn’t in this case, because there is no un modifying it (as in un maricon).

    Given all that, the use of the word ‘faggot’ as a catch-all translation would seem an oversimplification.

    It’s possible that Escobar meant ‘maricon’ in its inter-familial form. Not at all likely, but possible.

    Given that he isn’t walking into a time warp that takes him back to 1890 after every game and that he should have some instinct for survival, it seems quite possible that Escobar meant the word in its de-sexualized context, as a generic goof.

    maybe using the english language while you're here making good money playing on an American Baseball Team would clear up any misunderstandings about what he ment to say...

    Godfather.
    Is there a source for this or are we supposed to know who Cuervo is?

    that source came from the artical, read and click :D

    Brendan Kennedy
    Sports Reporter

    13 Comments Blue Jays’ shortstop Yunel Escobar could face disciplinary action after photographs surfaced showing the 29-year-old Cuban on the field at Rogers Centre with a homophobic slur written under his eyes.

    Escobar, who has been with the Jays since 2010, played Saturday’s game against the Boston Red Sox with the Spanish words “TU ERE MARICON” written on an eyeblack sticker, a black patch baseball players wear under their eyes to reduce the sun’s glare.

    MORE: Smith: Blue Jays' Yunel Escobar deserves a big suspension

    The phrase’s most common English translation is “You are a faggot.” Other translations are less explicitly homophobic, but more of an emasculating insult.

    A league spokesman told the Star via email they are “looking into the matter.”

    The Blue Jays released a statement late Monday night saying they do not support discrimination “nor condone the message displayed by Yunel Escobar during Saturday’s game.”

    CLICK HERE :D

    MORE: Kelly: Was Yunel Escobar’s face painted with a homophobic slur? Not so fast
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    “The club takes this situation seriously and is investigating the matter.”

    GM Alex Anthopoulos will address the matter with media on Tuesday in New York, the statement read, adding that they “expect” Escobar, Jays’ manager John Farrell and Spanish-speaking coach Luis Rivera to also be in attendance.

    Last year Major League Baseball suspended Atlanta Braves pitching coach Roger McDowell for two weeks after McDowell made lewd gestures, perceived to be homophobic, towards fans in San Francisco


    Godfather.
  • Godfather.Godfather. Posts: 12,504
    blackredyellow wrote:
    Godfather. wrote:
    Yes, it can mean ‘You are a faggot’. But according to Cuervo, context is everything. The word is a derivation of the proper name Maria del Carmen. The diminutive form of that name has morphed into an effeminizing epithet that has a clear gender component, but not necessarily a sexual one.

    “I would take it as, ‘You are like a girl. You’re weak’,” Cuervo said. “I don’t curse much, so I don’t know the appropriate level in English. It has to be something like ‘wuss’.”

    In Spanish-speaking families, according to Cuervo, parents might refer to a 7-year-old boy who’s crying as a maricon, as in ‘Don’t be such a baby’. You might say the same thing in the same situation to a female child.

    “If anything, it’s sexism against women,” Cuervo said wryly. Overall, she didn’t seem predisposed to be shocked by the use of the word: “It’s trash talking.”

    She also noted a point of grammar. The word (and the insult) is made stronger if maricon is used as a noun. It isn’t in this case, because there is no un modifying it (as in un maricon).

    Given all that, the use of the word ‘faggot’ as a catch-all translation would seem an oversimplification.

    It’s possible that Escobar meant ‘maricon’ in its inter-familial form. Not at all likely, but possible.

    Given that he isn’t walking into a time warp that takes him back to 1890 after every game and that he should have some instinct for survival, it seems quite possible that Escobar meant the word in its de-sexualized context, as a generic goof.

    maybe using the english language while you're here making good money playing on an American Baseball Team would clear up any misunderstandings about what he ment to say...

    Godfather.

    To MLB, it shouldn't matter. Granted, the anti-gay aspect (if that was intended) gets all of the media attention, but even if he had "You are a pussy" written in eye black, MLB has to come down hard on him for it.

    You just can't allow that sort of public display.

    agreed !

    Godfather.
  • josevolutionjosevolution Posts: 30,199
    Godfather. wrote:
    Yes, it can mean ‘You are a faggot’. But according to Cuervo, context is everything. The word is a derivation of the proper name Maria del Carmen. The diminutive form of that name has morphed into an effeminizing epithet that has a clear gender component, but not necessarily a sexual one.

    “I would take it as, ‘You are like a girl. You’re weak’,” Cuervo said. “I don’t curse much, so I don’t know the appropriate level in English. It has to be something like ‘wuss’.”

    In Spanish-speaking families, according to Cuervo, parents might refer to a 7-year-old boy who’s crying as a maricon, as in ‘Don’t be such a baby’. You might say the same thing in the same situation to a female child.

    “If anything, it’s sexism against women,” Cuervo said wryly. Overall, she didn’t seem predisposed to be shocked by the use of the word: “It’s trash talking.”

    She also noted a point of grammar. The word (and the insult) is made stronger if maricon is used as a noun. It isn’t in this case, because there is no un modifying it (as in un maricon).

    Given all that, the use of the word ‘faggot’ as a catch-all translation would seem an oversimplification.

    It’s possible that Escobar meant ‘maricon’ in its inter-familial form. Not at all likely, but possible.

    Given that he isn’t walking into a time warp that takes him back to 1890 after every game and that he should have some instinct for survival, it seems quite possible that Escobar meant the word in its de-sexualized context, as a generic goof.

    maybe using the english language while you're here making good money playing on an American Baseball Team would clear up any misunderstandings about what he ment to say...

    Godfather.

    I don't care what he tried to say with it but i can tell you with out a doubt Maricon IS faggot from here to freaking Santiago Chile .... :fp: :fp: hi's an asshole and should be treated as such ...
    jesus greets me looks just like me ....
  • Godfather.Godfather. Posts: 12,504
    josevolution wrote:
    Godfather. wrote:
    Yes, it can mean ‘You are a faggot’. But according to Cuervo, context is everything. The word is a derivation of the proper name Maria del Carmen. The diminutive form of that name has morphed into an effeminizing epithet that has a clear gender component, but not necessarily a sexual one.

    “I would take it as, ‘You are like a girl. You’re weak’,” Cuervo said. “I don’t curse much, so I don’t know the appropriate level in English. It has to be something like ‘wuss’.”

    In Spanish-speaking families, according to Cuervo, parents might refer to a 7-year-old boy who’s crying as a maricon, as in ‘Don’t be such a baby’. You might say the same thing in the same situation to a female child.

    “If anything, it’s sexism against women,” Cuervo said wryly. Overall, she didn’t seem predisposed to be shocked by the use of the word: “It’s trash talking.”

    She also noted a point of grammar. The word (and the insult) is made stronger if maricon is used as a noun. It isn’t in this case, because there is no un modifying it (as in un maricon).

    Given all that, the use of the word ‘faggot’ as a catch-all translation would seem an oversimplification.

    It’s possible that Escobar meant ‘maricon’ in its inter-familial form. Not at all likely, but possible.

    Given that he isn’t walking into a time warp that takes him back to 1890 after every game and that he should have some instinct for survival, it seems quite possible that Escobar meant the word in its de-sexualized context, as a generic goof.

    maybe using the english language while you're here making good money playing on an American Baseball Team would clear up any misunderstandings about what he ment to say...

    Godfather.

    I don't care what he tried to say with it but i can tell you with out a doubt Maricon IS faggot from here to freaking Santiago Chile .... :fp: :fp: hi's an asshole and should be treated as such ...


    :lol::lol::lol::lol: dude chillllllll :lol::lol:


    Godfather.
  • Cliffy6745Cliffy6745 Posts: 33,895
    Sounds like this wasn't the first time he did something like this It's funny, not only is he a horrific baseball player, he is also a horrific person.
  • polaris_xpolaris_x Posts: 13,559
    3 games and sensitivity training ... salary forfeited will go to You Can Play and GLAAD ...
  • Godfather.Godfather. Posts: 12,504
    adam42381 wrote:
    Godfather. wrote:
    Yes, it can mean ‘You are a faggot’. But according to Cuervo, context is everything. The word is a derivation of the proper name Maria del Carmen. The diminutive form of that name has morphed into an effeminizing epithet that has a clear gender component, but not necessarily a sexual one.

    “I would take it as, ‘You are like a girl. You’re weak’,” Cuervo said. “I don’t curse much, so I don’t know the appropriate level in English. It has to be something like ‘wuss’.”

    In Spanish-speaking families, according to Cuervo, parents might refer to a 7-year-old boy who’s crying as a maricon, as in ‘Don’t be such a baby’. You might say the same thing in the same situation to a female child.

    “If anything, it’s sexism against women,” Cuervo said wryly. Overall, she didn’t seem predisposed to be shocked by the use of the word: “It’s trash talking.”

    She also noted a point of grammar. The word (and the insult) is made stronger if maricon is used as a noun. It isn’t in this case, because there is no un modifying it (as in un maricon).

    Given all that, the use of the word ‘faggot’ as a catch-all translation would seem an oversimplification.

    It’s possible that Escobar meant ‘maricon’ in its inter-familial form. Not at all likely, but possible.

    Given that he isn’t walking into a time warp that takes him back to 1890 after every game and that he should have some instinct for survival, it seems quite possible that Escobar meant the word in its de-sexualized context, as a generic goof.

    maybe using the english language while you're here making good money playing on an American Baseball Team would clear up any misunderstandings about what he ment to say...

    Godfather.
    Is there a source for this or are we supposed to know who Cuervo is?


    Jose Cuervo....Duhhhh :lol::lol:

    Godfather.
  • lukin2006lukin2006 Posts: 9,087
    JAYS' ESCOBAR SUSPENDED THREE GAMES FOR DISPLAYING SLUR

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  • MotoDCMotoDC Posts: 947
    It's so weird to me that there are baseball teams in Canada. In the American League no less. Anywho, carry on...
  • keeponrockinkeeponrockin Posts: 7,446
    MotoDC wrote:
    It's so weird to me that there are baseball teams in Canada. In the American League no less. Anywho, carry on...
    The fact they're there is a godsend for me in Ottawa, 4 hour drive but I get to see baseball.
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  • SmellymanSmellyman Asia Posts: 4,524
    Godfather. wrote:
    there's that word again :lol: homophobic :lol::lol:
    well that wassn't very bright was it...he could have used different wording like "straight pride" but nooooo !
    :lol::lol::lol:
    maybe he didn't mean it in a sexual way at all...it could have been a messege for someone he is pissed at..who knows ?

    Godfather.

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  • Godfather.Godfather. Posts: 12,504
    Smellyman wrote:
    Godfather. wrote:
    there's that word again :lol: homophobic :lol::lol:
    well that wassn't very bright was it...he could have used different wording like "straight pride" but nooooo !
    :lol::lol::lol:
    maybe he didn't mean it in a sexual way at all...it could have been a messege for someone he is pissed at..who knows ?

    Godfather.

    tumblr_m8y6yhO5p91ry8gq6o1_500.jpg

    well I doubt Morgan actuall said that but it is funny...why would you bring up homo and asshole in the same sentance knowing what a asshole is used for in that community...you have any dirty secrets ? :lol: .. :shock:

    Godfather.
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