1 in 100 kids is a psychopath, is yours?

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edited September 2012 in A Moving Train
http://aww.ninemsn.com.au/article.aspx?id=8525268

Most parents choose not to believe that some children are just born "evil", preferring to blame poor parenting for nasty kids — but a new study has found that 1 percent of babies could be inherently psychopathic.

Psychologists at University College London conducted two studies and found that 1 in 100 kids have psychopathic tendencies.

These kids — which psychologists describe as callous-unemotional — are characterised by their ability to lie, manipulate and commit acts of cruelty without remorse.

Other signs a child could be a psychopath include:

1. Very charming and engaging from a young age, exhibiting no shyness.
2. An inflated view of their abilities and self-worth: Psychopaths think they are better than others.
3. Constant need for stimulation: Takes risks, gets bored easily.
4. Pathological lying: Ranges from moderate — sly, crafty — to extreme deception, involving complex webs.
5. Manipulation: Exploitative and callously ruthless, without concern for others.
6. Remorseless: Unconcerned about losses, pain and suffering they inflict on others.
7. Lack of empathy: Cold, inconsiderate, contemptuous, but can act by imitation.
8. Early behaviour problems: Problem behaviour under 13 — lying, cheating, vandalism, bullying.
If your child exhibits any of these traits, don't despair. Study leader Professor Essi Viding says kids with psychopathic tendencies don't always go on to become full-blown psychopaths.

"For the group which has callous-unemotional traits, there's a strong genetic vulnerability," she says.

"This does not mean these children are born anti-social or are destined to become anti-social.

"But in the same way that some of us are more susceptible to heart disease, these children are people who are more vulnerable to environmental influences that trigger the anti-social outcome."

Australian researcher David Hawes from the University of Sydney agrees. He says his studies have suggested callous-unemotional children respond well to "warm parenting".

"The quality of a parent's emotional interaction and attachment with a young child is crucial to predicting if that child will develop this high-risk pattern of behaviour," Dr Hawes says.

"While CU characteristics seem to be largely under the control of genetics, if a child receives consistent and warm parenting in a secure family environment it can protect against those traits."


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  • comebackgirlcomebackgirl Posts: 9,885
    Godfather posted an article in another thread that I think applies well here:

    http://www.livescience.com/13083-crimin ... thics.html

    I do think it's a combination of a genetic vulnerability that is triggered by an environment that prevents proper attachment (chaos, abuse, etc). Early attachment plays such an important role in developing the ability to empathize and form healthy relationships later in life. One of the difficulties is that parental figures are more likely to have positive emotional interactions and attachments with babies that are inherently more "cuddly" for lack of a better word; the baby's natural temperament is going to have some influence on attachment as well.
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  • Godfather.Godfather. Posts: 12,504
    Godfather posted an article in another thread that I think applies well here:

    http://www.livescience.com/13083-crimin ... thics.html

    I do think it's a combination of a genetic vulnerability that is triggered by an environment that prevents proper attachment (chaos, abuse, etc). Early attachment plays such an important role in developing the ability to empathize and form healthy relationships later in life. One of the difficulties is that parental figures are more likely to have positive emotional interactions and attachments with babies that are inherently more "cuddly" for lack of a better word; the baby's natural temperament is going to have some influence on attachment as well.


    my mom thought all six of us kid's were crazy...turns out she was crazy as well :lol:

    very cool artical,great reading !

    Godfather.
  • comebackgirlcomebackgirl Posts: 9,885
    Godfather. wrote:
    Godfather posted an article in another thread that I think applies well here:

    http://www.livescience.com/13083-crimin ... thics.html

    I do think it's a combination of a genetic vulnerability that is triggered by an environment that prevents proper attachment (chaos, abuse, etc). Early attachment plays such an important role in developing the ability to empathize and form healthy relationships later in life. One of the difficulties is that parental figures are more likely to have positive emotional interactions and attachments with babies that are inherently more "cuddly" for lack of a better word; the baby's natural temperament is going to have some influence on attachment as well.


    my mom thought all six of us kid's were crazy...turns out she was crazy as well :lol:

    very cool artical,great reading !

    Godfather.
    :lol: well my "daughter" bit me...on my face...while I was sleeping. Psychopath for sure :shock: (it's not my parenting though....she was a rescue) :nono:

    This is a good summary article too:

    http://dcfs.co.la.ca.us/katieA/docs/Mal ... opment.pdf
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  • hedonisthedonist Posts: 24,524
    :lol: well my "daughter" bit me...on my face...while I was sleeping. Psychopath for sure :shock: (it's not my parenting though....she was a rescue) :nono:
    Hmmm...same here.

    Also, my first thought reading this was the old film, "The Bad Seed".
  • hostishostis Posts: 441
    there was a fascinating program in the UK that was about a so called psychopath gene. the doctor who discovered the gene was also found to have that same gene defect but when looking back and comparing his childhood against known psychopaths he said the only difference he could find is that he had a childhood full of laughter....
  • brianluxbrianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 42,419
    My first thought was, "Did you mean sociopath?" So I looked into it and found this interesting article which distinguishes the two disorders:

    http://voices.yahoo.com/sociopath-vs-ps ... 06224.html
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  • Godfather.Godfather. Posts: 12,504
    brianlux wrote:
    My first thought was, "Did you mean sociopath?" So I looked into it and found this interesting article which distinguishes the two disorders:

    http://voices.yahoo.com/sociopath-vs-ps ... 06224.html

    wow ! great post man very interesting.

    Godfather.
  • comebackgirlcomebackgirl Posts: 9,885
    brianlux wrote:
    My first thought was, "Did you mean sociopath?" So I looked into it and found this interesting article which distinguishes the two disorders:

    http://voices.yahoo.com/sociopath-vs-ps ... 06224.html
    Interesting read, especially the part about a genetic link. I wonder how very early environmental factors (including those in utero) impact the genetic predisposition and have an effect on temperamental differences. Maternal stress during pregnancy can impact the developing fetus, including brain development.

    Neither sociopath or psychopath are diagnosable personality disorders under the DSM, although we definitely throw the terms around. The closest we have is antisocial personality disorder, which is based more on behavioral criteria, yet a lot of times that doesn't really fully capture what we see. The presentation of the same diagnosis can look very different from one person to the next, especially if there are comorbid Axis I or Axis II (personality) disorders. My diagnostic criteria: sociopaths give me an uneasy gut feeling, psychopaths make the hair stand up on the back of my neck :lol:
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  • comebackgirlcomebackgirl Posts: 9,885
    An interesting article about the role of maternal stress on fetal brain development.
    http://www.dana.org/news/cerebrum/detail.aspx?id=37188

    It's a little lengthy, but this portion speaks to the influence of prenatal stress on temperament and brain development:

    "Maternal exposure to excessive psychosocial stressors during pregnancy, such as domestic violence or the death or serious illness of a loved one, may have negative effects on fetal and infant neurodevelopment, including delayed mental and motor development, difficult temperament, and impaired cognitive performance.46, 47 The underlying reasons for these effects are assumed to be stress-related alterations in brain structure and connectivity. We recently uncovered evidence of a direct link between the maternal emotional state during pregnancy and changes in the offspring’s brain structure. Children born to mothers who experienced high levels of anxiety in the early second trimester of pregnancy had region-specific reductions in gray matter volume48 and impaired executive function49 in middle childhood."

    But the good news is that secure parental attachment after birth can have a protective benefit:

    "Although the first year of postnatal life represents a period of heightened developmental vulnerability, it also may be a time when therapeutic interventions may have the greatest benefit. Interventions that provide a child with an enriched environment, along with age-appropriate psychomotor, attention, and other cognitive training, may be most beneficial during infancy and toddlerhood, when the brain is still highly plastic. Research suggests a substantial potential for the reversal of prenatal stress’ negative effects, with evidence suggesting postnatal compensation for prenatal adversity.53 We found an association between lower birth weight (a marker of intrauterine adversity) and a smaller hippocampus, a brain structure important for learning and memory processes, in young adults who reported low parental bonding during childhood. However, we found no such association among those who reported high parental bonding.54 "

    A couple of other abstracts:

    http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/ar ... 6709609576

    http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/ar ... 8003000502
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  • Go BeaversGo Beavers Posts: 9,191
    Neither sociopath or psychopath are diagnosable personality disorders under the DSM, although we definitely throw the terms around. The closest we have is antisocial personality disorder, which is based more on behavioral criteria, yet a lot of times that doesn't really fully capture what we see. The presentation of the same diagnosis can look very different from one person to the next, especially if there are comorbid Axis I or Axis II (personality) disorders. My diagnostic criteria: sociopaths give me an uneasy gut feeling, psychopaths make the hair stand up on the back of my neck :lol:

    I always used these after meeting with either: Sociopath: "eww, I feel slimey".
    Psychopaths: "yikes, he's scary, make sure a staff is always in the same room with him."
  • comebackgirlcomebackgirl Posts: 9,885
    Go Beavers wrote:
    Neither sociopath or psychopath are diagnosable personality disorders under the DSM, although we definitely throw the terms around. The closest we have is antisocial personality disorder, which is based more on behavioral criteria, yet a lot of times that doesn't really fully capture what we see. The presentation of the same diagnosis can look very different from one person to the next, especially if there are comorbid Axis I or Axis II (personality) disorders. My diagnostic criteria: sociopaths give me an uneasy gut feeling, psychopaths make the hair stand up on the back of my neck :lol:

    I always used these after meeting with either: Sociopath: "eww, I feel slimey".
    Psychopaths: "yikes, he's scary, make sure a staff is always in the same room with him."
    slimey is a perfect description. like you just feel the sliming oozing all over you *shudders*
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  • JOEJOEJOEJOEJOEJOE Posts: 10,612
    http://aww.ninemsn.com.au/article.aspx?id=8525268

    Most parents choose not to believe that some children are just born "evil", preferring to blame poor parenting for nasty kids — but a new study has found that 1 percent of babies could be inherently psychopathic.

    Psychologists at University College London conducted two studies and found that 1 in 100 kids have psychopathic tendencies.

    These kids — which psychologists describe as callous-unemotional — are characterised by their ability to lie, manipulate and commit acts of cruelty without remorse.

    Other signs a child could be a psychopath include:

    1. Very charming and engaging from a young age, exhibiting no shyness.
    2. An inflated view of their abilities and self-worth: Psychopaths think they are better than others.
    3. Constant need for stimulation: Takes risks, gets bored easily.
    4. Pathological lying: Ranges from moderate — sly, crafty — to extreme deception, involving complex webs.
    5. Manipulation: Exploitative and callously ruthless, without concern for others.
    6. Remorseless: Unconcerned about losses, pain and suffering they inflict on others.
    7. Lack of empathy: Cold, inconsiderate, contemptuous, but can act by imitation.
    8. Early behaviour problems: Problem behaviour under 13 — lying, cheating, vandalism, bullying.
    If your child exhibits any of these traits, don't despair. Study leader Professor Essi Viding says kids with psychopathic tendencies don't always go on to become full-blown psychopaths.

    "For the group which has callous-unemotional traits, there's a strong genetic vulnerability," she says.

    "This does not mean these children are born anti-social or are destined to become anti-social.

    "But in the same way that some of us are more susceptible to heart disease, these children are people who are more vulnerable to environmental influences that trigger the anti-social outcome."

    Australian researcher David Hawes from the University of Sydney agrees. He says his studies have suggested callous-unemotional children respond well to "warm parenting".

    "The quality of a parent's emotional interaction and attachment with a young child is crucial to predicting if that child will develop this high-risk pattern of behaviour," Dr Hawes says.

    "While CU characteristics seem to be largely under the control of genetics, if a child receives consistent and warm parenting in a secure family environment it can protect against those traits."



    I wonder if this explains why so many child actors end up being a bit crazy when they get older?
  • SnakeduckSnakeduck Posts: 1,056
    I don't have kids, but if I did... probably.
  • PJ_SoulPJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,020
    Gosh, it seems to me that more than 1 in 100 adults display non-violent psychopathic tendencies, so I wonder how that works? :?
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  • Well, I'm incredibly shy...

    Guess I'm not a psychopath! :P
  • PJ_SoulPJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,020
    Well, I'm incredibly shy...

    Guess I'm not a psychopath! :P
    :clap: :thumbup: Way to go! :lol:
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  • PJ_Soul wrote:
    Well, I'm incredibly shy...

    Guess I'm not a psychopath! :P
    :clap: :thumbup: Way to go! :lol:
    :lol::lol::lol:
    His parents must be so proud
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  • PJ_Soul wrote:
    Well, I'm incredibly shy...

    Guess I'm not a psychopath! :P
    :clap: :thumbup: Way to go! :lol:
    :lol::lol::lol:
    His parents must be so proud

    The Lab Technician I had a couple months ago said my parents should be proud. :P
  • Who PrincessWho Princess out here in the fields Posts: 7,305
    http://aww.ninemsn.com.au/article.aspx?id=8525268

    Most parents choose not to believe that some children are just born "evil", preferring to blame poor parenting for nasty kids — but a new study has found that 1 percent of babies could be inherently psychopathic.

    Psychologists at University College London conducted two studies and found that 1 in 100 kids have psychopathic tendencies.

    These kids — which psychologists describe as callous-unemotional — are characterised by their ability to lie, manipulate and commit acts of cruelty without remorse.

    Other signs a child could be a psychopath include:

    1. Very charming and engaging from a young age, exhibiting no shyness.
    2. An inflated view of their abilities and self-worth: Psychopaths think they are better than others.
    3. Constant need for stimulation: Takes risks, gets bored easily.
    4. Pathological lying: Ranges from moderate — sly, crafty — to extreme deception, involving complex webs.
    5. Manipulation: Exploitative and callously ruthless, without concern for others.
    6. Remorseless: Unconcerned about losses, pain and suffering they inflict on others.
    7. Lack of empathy: Cold, inconsiderate, contemptuous, but can act by imitation.
    8. Early behaviour problems: Problem behaviour under 13 — lying, cheating, vandalism, bullying.
    If your child exhibits any of these traits, don't despair. Study leader Professor Essi Viding says kids with psychopathic tendencies don't always go on to become full-blown psychopaths.

    "For the group which has callous-unemotional traits, there's a strong genetic vulnerability," she says.

    "This does not mean these children are born anti-social or are destined to become anti-social.

    "But in the same way that some of us are more susceptible to heart disease, these children are people who are more vulnerable to environmental influences that trigger the anti-social outcome."

    Australian researcher David Hawes from the University of Sydney agrees. He says his studies have suggested callous-unemotional children respond well to "warm parenting".

    "The quality of a parent's emotional interaction and attachment with a young child is crucial to predicting if that child will develop this high-risk pattern of behaviour," Dr Hawes says.

    "While CU characteristics seem to be largely under the control of genetics, if a child receives consistent and warm parenting in a secure family environment it can protect against those traits."
    :eh: :think:
    This sounds an awful lot like a boss I used to have . . .
    "The stars are all connected to the brain."
  • PJ_SoulPJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,020
    http://aww.ninemsn.com.au/article.aspx?id=8525268

    Most parents choose not to believe that some children are just born "evil", preferring to blame poor parenting for nasty kids — but a new study has found that 1 percent of babies could be inherently psychopathic.

    Psychologists at University College London conducted two studies and found that 1 in 100 kids have psychopathic tendencies.

    These kids — which psychologists describe as callous-unemotional — are characterised by their ability to lie, manipulate and commit acts of cruelty without remorse.

    Other signs a child could be a psychopath include:

    1. Very charming and engaging from a young age, exhibiting no shyness.
    2. An inflated view of their abilities and self-worth: Psychopaths think they are better than others.
    3. Constant need for stimulation: Takes risks, gets bored easily.
    4. Pathological lying: Ranges from moderate — sly, crafty — to extreme deception, involving complex webs.
    5. Manipulation: Exploitative and callously ruthless, without concern for others.
    6. Remorseless: Unconcerned about losses, pain and suffering they inflict on others.
    7. Lack of empathy: Cold, inconsiderate, contemptuous, but can act by imitation.
    8. Early behaviour problems: Problem behaviour under 13 — lying, cheating, vandalism, bullying.
    If your child exhibits any of these traits, don't despair. Study leader Professor Essi Viding says kids with psychopathic tendencies don't always go on to become full-blown psychopaths.

    "For the group which has callous-unemotional traits, there's a strong genetic vulnerability," she says.

    "This does not mean these children are born anti-social or are destined to become anti-social.

    "But in the same way that some of us are more susceptible to heart disease, these children are people who are more vulnerable to environmental influences that trigger the anti-social outcome."

    Australian researcher David Hawes from the University of Sydney agrees. He says his studies have suggested callous-unemotional children respond well to "warm parenting".

    "The quality of a parent's emotional interaction and attachment with a young child is crucial to predicting if that child will develop this high-risk pattern of behaviour," Dr Hawes says.

    "While CU characteristics seem to be largely under the control of genetics, if a child receives consistent and warm parenting in a secure family environment it can protect against those traits."
    :eh: :think:
    This sounds an awful lot like a boss I used to have . . .
    It ABSOLUTELY describes my boss (really my boss's boss, but he's always there). Me and my coworkers ha e been describing him as a psychopath for a long time. It sucks. :evil: Now I know.... his parents didn't hug him enough. :lolno:
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  • PJ_Soul wrote:
    http://aww.ninemsn.com.au/article.aspx?id=8525268

    Most parents choose not to believe that some children are just born "evil", preferring to blame poor parenting for nasty kids — but a new study has found that 1 percent of babies could be inherently psychopathic.

    Psychologists at University College London conducted two studies and found that 1 in 100 kids have psychopathic tendencies.

    These kids — which psychologists describe as callous-unemotional — are characterised by their ability to lie, manipulate and commit acts of cruelty without remorse.

    Other signs a child could be a psychopath include:

    1. Very charming and engaging from a young age, exhibiting no shyness.
    2. An inflated view of their abilities and self-worth: Psychopaths think they are better than others.
    3. Constant need for stimulation: Takes risks, gets bored easily.
    4. Pathological lying: Ranges from moderate — sly, crafty — to extreme deception, involving complex webs.
    5. Manipulation: Exploitative and callously ruthless, without concern for others.
    6. Remorseless: Unconcerned about losses, pain and suffering they inflict on others.
    7. Lack of empathy: Cold, inconsiderate, contemptuous, but can act by imitation.
    8. Early behaviour problems: Problem behaviour under 13 — lying, cheating, vandalism, bullying.
    If your child exhibits any of these traits, don't despair. Study leader Professor Essi Viding says kids with psychopathic tendencies don't always go on to become full-blown psychopaths.

    "For the group which has callous-unemotional traits, there's a strong genetic vulnerability," she says.

    "This does not mean these children are born anti-social or are destined to become anti-social.

    "But in the same way that some of us are more susceptible to heart disease, these children are people who are more vulnerable to environmental influences that trigger the anti-social outcome."

    Australian researcher David Hawes from the University of Sydney agrees. He says his studies have suggested callous-unemotional children respond well to "warm parenting".

    "The quality of a parent's emotional interaction and attachment with a young child is crucial to predicting if that child will develop this high-risk pattern of behaviour," Dr Hawes says.

    "While CU characteristics seem to be largely under the control of genetics, if a child receives consistent and warm parenting in a secure family environment it can protect against those traits."
    :eh: :think:
    This sounds an awful lot like a boss I used to have . . .
    It ABSOLUTELY describes my boss (really my boss's boss, but he's always there). Me and my coworkers ha e been describing him as a psychopath for a long time. It sucks. :evil: Now I know.... his parents didn't hug him enough. :lolno:
    It's not too late! Get your hug on and see if you can rewire that brain of his :? :lol:
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  • PJ_Soul wrote:
    :clap: :thumbup: Way to go! :lol:
    :lol::lol::lol:
    His parents must be so proud

    The Lab Technician I had a couple months ago said my parents should be proud. :P
    actually, judging from what I've seen of your posts, they have a lot of reasons to be proud :)
    Not being a psychopath is just the icing on the cake ;):lol:
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  • actually, judging from what I've seen of your posts, they have a lot of reasons to be proud :)
    Not being a psychopath is just the icing on the cake ;):lol:

    Thanks, Ma'am! :P
  • actually, judging from what I've seen of your posts, they have a lot of reasons to be proud :)
    Not being a psychopath is just the icing on the cake ;):lol:

    Thanks, Ma'am! :P
    Ma'am?!?!?!?! :x
    I take it all back :|:lol:
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  • actually, judging from what I've seen of your posts, they have a lot of reasons to be proud :)
    Not being a psychopath is just the icing on the cake ;):lol:

    Thanks, Ma'am! :P
    Ma'am?!?!?!?! :x
    I take it all back :|:lol:

    Sorry... :oops: I'm normally very polite... :oops:
  • Thanks, Ma'am! :P
    Ma'am?!?!?!?! :x
    I take it all back :|:lol:

    Sorry... :oops: I'm normally very polite... :oops:
    :lol: all is forgiven 8-)
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  • :lol: all is forgiven 8-)

    :D
  • PJ_SoulPJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,020
    actually, judging from what I've seen of your posts, they have a lot of reasons to be proud :)
    Not being a psychopath is just the icing on the cake ;):lol:

    Thanks, Ma'am! :P
    Ma'am?!?!?!?! :x
    I take it all back :|:lol:
    :lol:
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  • PJ_Soul wrote:
    :lol:

    :oops:
  • PJ_SoulPJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,020
    PJ_Soul wrote:
    :lol:

    :oops:
    Nooo, it's cute!
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