look who is defending sandusky

normnorm Posts: 31,146
edited August 2012 in A Moving Train
none other than Father Benedict Groeschel, director of the Office for Spiritual Development for the Catholic Archdiocese of New York
[Interviewer]: Part of your work here at Trinity has been working with priests involved in abuse, no?

[Father Groeschel]: A little bit, yes; but you know, in those cases, they have to leave. And some of them profoundly — profoundly — penitential, horrified. People have this picture in their minds of a person planning to — a psychopath. But that's not the case. Suppose you have a man having a nervous breakdown, and a youngster comes after him. A lot of the cases, the youngster — 14, 16, 18 — is the seducer.

[Interviewer]: Why would that be?

[Father Greoschel]: Well, it's not so hard to see — a kid looking for a father and didn't have his own — and they won't be planning to get into heavy-duty sex, but almost romantic, embracing, kissing, perhaps sleeping but not having intercourse or anything like that.

It's an understandable thing, and you know where you find it, among other clergy or important people; you look at teachers, attorneys, judges, social workers. Generally, if they get involved, it's heterosexually, and if it's a priest, he leaves and gets married — that's the usual thing — and gets a dispensation. A lot of priests leave quickly, get civilly married and then apply for the dispensation, which takes about three years.

But there are the relatively rare cases where a priest is involved in a homosexual way with a minor. I think the statistic I read recently in a secular psychology review was about 2%. Would that be true of other clergy? Would it be true of doctors, lawyers, coaches?

Here's this poor guy — [Penn State football coach Jerry] Sandusky — it went on for years. Interesting: Why didn't anyone say anything? Apparently, a number of kids knew about it and didn't break the ice. Well, you know, until recent years, people did not register in their minds that it was a crime. It was a moral failure, scandalous; but they didn't think of it in terms of legal things.

If you go back 10 or 15 years ago with different sexual difficulties — except for rape or violence — it was very rarely brought as a civil crime. Nobody thought of it that way. Sometimes statutory rape would be — but only if the girl pushed her case. Parents wouldn't touch it. People backed off, for years, on sexual cases. I'm not sure why.

I think perhaps part of the reason would be an embarrassment, that it brings the case out into the open, and the girl's name is there, or people will figure out what's there, or the youngster involved — you know, it's not put in the paper, but everybody knows; they're talking about it.

At this point, (when) any priest, any clergyman, any social worker, any teacher, any responsible person in society would become involved in a single sexual act — not necessarily intercourse — they're done. And I'm inclined to think, on their first offense, they should not go to jail because their intention was not committing a crime.

this would be shocking if it wasn't shocking at all
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  • Jason PJason P Posts: 19,156
    Psst. Hey Padre ... ixnay ethay edophilepay efendingday. :?
    Be Excellent To Each Other
    Party On, Dudes!
  • normnorm Posts: 31,146
    oh never mind...it was "an editorial mistake"

    http://www.ncregister.com/daily-news/fa ... friars-of/

    so, it's ok that he said this but you were mistaken in publishing it...got it
  • Jason PJason P Posts: 19,156
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  • hedonisthedonist Posts: 24,524
    Jason P wrote:
    Psst. Hey Padre ... ixnay ethay edophilepay efendingday. :?
    ha!

    Dude's head is buried way deep in the sand.
  • comebackgirlcomebackgirl Posts: 9,885
    birds of a feather
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  • josevolutionjosevolution Posts: 30,208
    He sounds like a total creep please padre just go away ...
    he actually said this >>>>Here's this poor guy — [Penn State football coach Jerry] Sandusky :x
    jesus greets me looks just like me ....
  • hedonisthedonist Posts: 24,524
    And this really gets my goat -

    "Suppose you have a man having a nervous breakdown, and a youngster comes after him. A lot of the cases, the youngster — 14, 16, 18 — is the seducer."

    Damn those young seducers, and the grown men who should know better but are taking the (jail)bait.

    (also...what exactly entails "heavy duty sex"?)
  • normnorm Posts: 31,146
    hedonist wrote:
    (also...what exactly entails "heavy duty sex"?)

    it's got something to do with legitimate rape i think
  • Jason PJason P Posts: 19,156
    hedonist wrote:
    (also...what exactly entails "heavy duty sex"?)
    One would involve some ice cubes and a nine iron. Two would include a buffalo, live or stuffed, preferably stuffed for safety sake, and three, we bring back some of those ice cubes and switch it over to a pitching wedge.
    Be Excellent To Each Other
    Party On, Dudes!
  • normnorm Posts: 31,146
    Jason P wrote:
    hedonist wrote:
    (also...what exactly entails "heavy duty sex"?)
    One would involve some ice cubes and a nine iron. Two would include a buffalo, live or stuffed, preferably stuffed for safety sake, and three, we bring back some of those ice cubes and switch it over to a pitching wedge.

    your gf/wife is one lucky girl :shock: :? ;):lol:
  • Jason PJason P Posts: 19,156
    norm wrote:
    Jason P wrote:
    hedonist wrote:
    (also...what exactly entails "heavy duty sex"?)
    One would involve some ice cubes and a nine iron. Two would include a buffalo, live or stuffed, preferably stuffed for safety sake, and three, we bring back some of those ice cubes and switch it over to a pitching wedge.

    your gf/wife is one lucky girl :shock: :? ;):lol:
    I prefer "blessed" over "lucky". ;)
    Be Excellent To Each Other
    Party On, Dudes!
  • hedonisthedonist Posts: 24,524
    Jason P wrote:
    norm wrote:
    Jason P wrote:
    One would involve some ice cubes and a nine iron. Two would include a buffalo, live or stuffed, preferably stuffed for safety sake, and three, we bring back some of those ice cubes and switch it over to a pitching wedge.

    your gf/wife is one lucky girl :shock: :? ;):lol:
    I prefer "blessed" over "lucky". ;)
    Yowza.

    I'd include "way more adventurous than I" in that.

    (bless you for preferring the stuffed buffalo)

    I can send her some Advil if needed :mrgreen:
  • comebackgirlcomebackgirl Posts: 9,885
    He sounds like a total creep please padre just go away ...
    he actually said this >>>>Here's this poor guy — [Penn State football coach Jerry] Sandusky :x
    That part makes me want to puke. :sick: Actually all of it does. Why didn't anyone say anything? Ummmm...they did...repeatedly.
    Another one to add to the asshat files
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  • Who PrincessWho Princess out here in the fields Posts: 7,305
    He sounds like a total creep please padre just go away ...
    he actually said this >>>>Here's this poor guy — [Penn State football coach Jerry] Sandusky :x
    That part makes me want to puke. :sick: Actually all of it does. Why didn't anyone say anything? Ummmm...they did...repeatedly.
    Another one to add to the asshat files
    Reading it I was wishing for an emoticon that had its hair standing on end.

    Best I can do
    > :wtf:
    "The stars are all connected to the brain."
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