One of Romney's Yachts flies the Cayman Islands flag.

Prince Of DorknessPrince Of Dorkness Posts: 3,763
edited August 2012 in A Moving Train
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And if that wasn't enough... it's called The Cracker Bay.

Interesting that he has a yacht doesn't pay taxes. The video on the link... pretty telling...

http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/romney-pa ... D5ZUKOtxq9
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  • SmellymanSmellyman Asia Posts: 4,524
    Mitt Romney
    (incorporated in the Cayman Islands)
  • lukin2006lukin2006 Posts: 9,087
    Gov. Mitt Romney's campaign toasted its top donors Wednesday aboard a 150-foot yacht flying the flag of the Cayman Islands.

    The floating party, hosted by a Florida developer on his yacht "Cracker Bay," was one of a dozen exclusive events meant to nurture those who have raised more than $1 million for Romney's bid.

    "I think it's ironic they do this aboard a yacht that doesn't even pay its taxes," said a woman who lives aboard a much smaller boat moored at the St. Petersburg Municipal Marina.

    Romney's Cayman-based investments have come under fire during the campaign.

    The event, attended by no more than 50 people, along with Romney relatives, including older brother Scott, appeared on no public calendars. ABC News obtained a schedule of the Romney campaign's "Victory Council" and waited dockside to speak with members.
    "It was a really nice event. These are good supporters," said billionaire Wilbur Ross, an energy industry executive.

    I think this yacht belonged to the Florida developer...if so be deal. How many of those A-List celebrities that support the democrats own property outside the US...I'm sure many, many.
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  • ByrnzieByrnzie Posts: 21,037
    it's called The Cracker Bay.

    :lol:
  • ByrnzieByrnzie Posts: 21,037
    lukin2006 wrote:
    I think this yacht belonged to the Florida developer...if so be deal. How many of those A-List celebrities that support the democrats own property outside the US...I'm sure many, many.

    Not paying any taxes for 10 years = a big deal.
  • lukin2006lukin2006 Posts: 9,087
    Byrnzie wrote:
    lukin2006 wrote:
    I think this yacht belonged to the Florida developer...if so be deal. How many of those A-List celebrities that support the democrats own property outside the US...I'm sure many, many.

    Not paying any taxes for 10 years = a big deal.

    I'm not commenting about him not paying tax for 10 years...Commented that the yacht is not his.
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  • know1know1 Posts: 6,794
    I wish both sides could just drop personal attacks and focus on what their own side will do to fix our issues.
    The only people we should try to get even with...
    ...are those who've helped us.

    Right 'round the corner could be bigger than ourselves.
  • know1 wrote:
    I wish both sides could just drop personal attacks and focus on what their own side will do to fix our issues.

    Unfortunately something tells me that if either side had any real solutions, they would run on those.
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  • mikepegg44mikepegg44 Posts: 3,353
    Byrnzie wrote:
    lukin2006 wrote:
    I think this yacht belonged to the Florida developer...if so be deal. How many of those A-List celebrities that support the democrats own property outside the US...I'm sure many, many.

    Not paying any taxes for 10 years = a big deal.


    wait, he didn't pay any taxes for 10 years? did I miss something?
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  • know1know1 Posts: 6,794
    Byrnzie wrote:
    Not paying any taxes for 10 years = a big deal.

    If it's not illegal, then the "problem" (if you want to call it that) is with the tax laws.

    I think our government has far too much of our money anyway. I heard on the radio this morning that a local entity got a federal grant to try and identify some old graves found in a potter's field.
    The only people we should try to get even with...
    ...are those who've helped us.

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  • ZosoZoso Posts: 6,425
    I just don't think someone who has several yachts and equestrian horses should be deemed as in touch with the middle class and poor people.. because how could he be.. I know I wouldn't be.
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  • lukin2006lukin2006 Posts: 9,087
    Zoso wrote:
    I just don't think someone who has several yachts and equestrian horses should be deemed as in touch with the middle class and poor people.. because how could he be.. I know I wouldn't be.

    Do you really think any of those politicians are in touch with the middle class or poor people? I think its safe to assume they are not.
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  • aerialaerial Posts: 2,319
    Zoso wrote:
    I just don't think someone who has several yachts and equestrian horses should be deemed as in touch with the middle class and poor people.. because how could he be.. I know I wouldn't be.

    I wonder how Obama became a Millionaire?
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  • hedonisthedonist Posts: 24,524
    know1 wrote:
    I wish both sides could just drop personal attacks and focus on what their own side will do to fix our issues.
    pffft.

    Levelheadedness has no place in politics, or in the discussion of them.

    No more of that from you!
  • brianluxbrianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 42,420
    hedonist wrote:
    know1 wrote:
    I wish both sides could just drop personal attacks and focus on what their own side will do to fix our issues.
    pffft.

    Levelheadedness has no place in politics, or in the discussion of them.

    No more of that from you!

    :lol: Well, my friend, obviously a little humor does. :lol:
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  • Jason PJason P Posts: 19,156
    This reminds me of the "green" thread.

    I see threads mocking the GOP for not saying things based on facts ... then I see this thread ... then I rub my eyes, shake my head, and go play in the AET for a while.

    :fp:
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  • inlet13inlet13 Posts: 1,979
    :o:o:o:o:o:o:o:o:o:o


    I heard Obama car uses foreign tires... AND his daughter once waved a french flag in a school project!!!!

    :o:o:o:o:o:o:o :shock:

    :nono:

    :fp:

    Can you stop wasting time with nonsense?
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  • brianluxbrianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 42,420
    inlet13 wrote:
    :o:o:o:o:o:o:o:o:o:o


    I heard Obama car uses foreign tires... AND his daughter once waved a french flag in a school project!!!!

    :o:o:o:o:o:o:o :shock:

    :nono:

    :fp:

    Can you stop wasting time with nonsense?

    That's "freedom flag" to you, buddy. :lol:
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  • aerial wrote:
    Zoso wrote:
    I just don't think someone who has several yachts and equestrian horses should be deemed as in touch with the middle class and poor people.. because how could he be.. I know I wouldn't be.

    I wonder how Obama became a Millionaire?

    He made his money writing books. But he also isn't mega-rich. He's rich... Yes. But his net worth is about $11 million. Romeny's is unknown since he's hidden so much of it in foreign tax shelters. But probably close to $750 million.

    And Romeny was born rich.
  • Jason P wrote:
    This reminds me of the "green" thread.

    I see threads mocking the GOP for not saying things based on facts ... then I see this thread ... then I rub my eyes, shake my head, and go play in the AET for a while.

    :fp:


    Yeah. Sorry, was in the mood to stir the pot.

    Meh... Got people talking, right?
  • hedonisthedonist Posts: 24,524
    brianlux wrote:
    hedonist wrote:
    know1 wrote:
    I wish both sides could just drop personal attacks and focus on what their own side will do to fix our issues.
    pffft.

    Levelheadedness has no place in politics, or in the discussion of them.

    No more of that from you!

    :lol: Well, my friend, obviously a little humor does. :lol:
    Amen to that! I'll take (good) humor over shit-stirring any day ;)
  • gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 23,303
    i take that yacht with the cayman islands flag as a big middle finger to the united states. not that it matters, but some people will defend and make excuses for romney's tax havens until the day they die.
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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 39,544
    aerial wrote:
    Zoso wrote:
    I just don't think someone who has several yachts and equestrian horses should be deemed as in touch with the middle class and poor people.. because how could he be.. I know I wouldn't be.

    I wonder how Obama became a Millionaire?

    Look at his tax returns, which he released, and you'll see. The majority of his "wealth" comes from his book sales and income as President, some of which now may be invested in a blind trust.

    Interesting how the last three democrat presidents were people of modest means who worked hard and got to the top only to be criticized as a simple peanut farmer, cheater and foreign, non-citizen muslim for having done so as opposed to the Bushes and now Willard Mitt Romney who started from privelage and slam every government program that might give the average person a leg up. I thought Horatio Alger was a republican hero?

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    brianlux wrote:
    inlet13 wrote:
    :o:o:o:o:o:o:o:o:o:o


    I heard Obama car uses foreign tires... AND his daughter once waved a french flag in a school project!!!!

    :o:o:o:o:o:o:o :shock:

    :nono:

    :fp:

    Can you stop wasting time with nonsense?

    That's "freedom flag" to you, buddy. :lol:

    I just have to say, I love the humor in these threads, from all sides. My ribs hurt.

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  • DS1119DS1119 Posts: 33,497
    aerial wrote:
    Zoso wrote:
    I just don't think someone who has several yachts and equestrian horses should be deemed as in touch with the middle class and poor people.. because how could he be.. I know I wouldn't be.

    I wonder how Obama became a Millionaire?

    He made his money writing books. But he also isn't mega-rich. He's rich... Yes. But his net worth is about $11 million. Romeny's is unknown since he's hidden so much of it in foreign tax shelters. But probably close to $750 million.

    And Romeny was born rich.


    So what if this is actually true?
  • DS1119DS1119 Posts: 33,497
    Jason P wrote:
    This reminds me of the "green" thread.



    I miss that thread. :(
  • mikepegg44mikepegg44 Posts: 3,353
    aerial wrote:
    Zoso wrote:
    I just don't think someone who has several yachts and equestrian horses should be deemed as in touch with the middle class and poor people.. because how could he be.. I know I wouldn't be.

    I wonder how Obama became a Millionaire?

    Look at his tax returns, which he released, and you'll see. The majority of his "wealth" comes from his book sales and income as President, some of which now may be invested in a blind trust.

    Interesting how the last three democrat presidents were people of modest means who worked hard and got to the top only to be criticized as a simple peanut farmer, cheater and foreign, non-citizen muslim for having done so as opposed to the Bushes and now Willard Mitt Romney who started from privelage and slam every government program that might give the average person a leg up. I thought Horatio Alger was a republican hero?


    Peace.

    you make a great point.

    it is sad. Those situations should be celebrated by the republicans as a "see it is possible" kind of thing. You can disagree but still be complimentary. The republicans should never downplay "bootstrap" stories.

    now back to what is important... Cayman island tax shelters are more American than apple pie.
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  • j1kotwicj1kotwic Posts: 168
    Why is it bad to be rich? Doesn't everyone want to be rich? If he did something illegal with his taxes then wouldn't he be in trouble with the law? Do you expect him to pay more taxes than what is owed? When I pay my taxes, I pay what is owed. Nothing more, nothing less. I just don't understand why people are attacking Romney because he's rich. And it doesn't look like he broke any tax laws. So what is the issue?
  • Jason PJason P Posts: 19,156
    j1kotwic wrote:
    Why is it bad to be rich? Doesn't everyone want to be rich? If he did something illegal with his taxes then wouldn't he be in trouble with the law? Do you expect him to pay more taxes than what is owed? When I pay my taxes, I pay what is owed. Nothing more, nothing less. I just don't understand why people are attacking Romney because he's rich. And it doesn't look like he broke any tax laws. So what is the issue?
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  • j1kotwic wrote:
    Why is it bad to be rich? Doesn't everyone want to be rich? If he did something illegal with his taxes then wouldn't he be in trouble with the law? Do you expect him to pay more taxes than what is owed? When I pay my taxes, I pay what is owed. Nothing more, nothing less. I just don't understand why people are attacking Romney because he's rich. And it doesn't look like he broke any tax laws. So what is the issue?


    It's not "bad" to be rich. What is "bad" is when you then use your money to stack the deck in your favor, screwing over the people and the national infrastructure that would make it possible for anyone else to thrive or even survive. Nobody expects him to "pay more taxes than what is owed."

    But he hasn't even paid what is owed. He's hidden his money in foreign accounts, used shady accounting to hide his wealth and has reportedly not paid taxes for 10 years. (and once they finally get through the very intentionally-written clusterfuck that is the Bain accounting documents, we probably WILL have proof that he broke laws.)

    Nobody is attacking him because he's rich. There are rich people who see that they made their money by using the system set up and paid for by us all and are willing to take part in it's continued support and growth and THEN there are the rich people who think of us as worker bees or "you people" that are a sub-human race that they don't really need to care about.

    and THAT is the issue.
  • JOEJOEJOEJOEJOEJOE Posts: 10,612
    j1kotwic wrote:
    Why is it bad to be rich? Doesn't everyone want to be rich? If he did something illegal with his taxes then wouldn't he be in trouble with the law? Do you expect him to pay more taxes than what is owed? When I pay my taxes, I pay what is owed. Nothing more, nothing less. I just don't understand why people are attacking Romney because he's rich. And it doesn't look like he broke any tax laws. So what is the issue?

    Nothing wrong with being rich, but if someone stashes their riches offshore to avoid paying tax on the investment income derived from the offshore investments, they is in violation of IRS law!
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