Marijuana May Lead To A Lower IQ

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  • brianluxbrianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 42,420
    brianlux wrote:
    :shock: dang, dude!!

    That was a tough class... especially as a Freshman. :lol:
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  • hedonisthedonist Posts: 24,524
    Oh yeah, I also worked my ass off and got my shit done. Work ethic is half the battle.
    Thank you for this.

    Aside from PE (wormed my way into assisting the coaches rather than taking the actual class), I made A's & B's all through school - including first-period French while high....

    ....like the man above me said.

    Git 'er done!
  • peacefrompaulpeacefrompaul Posts: 25,293
    hedonist wrote:
    Oh yeah, I also worked my ass off and got my shit done. Work ethic is half the battle.
    Thank you for this.

    Aside from PE (wormed my way into assisting the coaches rather than taking the actual class), I made A's & B's all through school - including first-period French while high....

    ....like the man above me said.

    Git 'er done!

    You bet!

    Great to hear from ya, Hedonist.
  • pandorapandora Posts: 21,855
    Some great replies here :lol: funny people...

    The mind expanding effects of marijuana
    can make it individually positive in one's life.
    And of course, laughing is incredibly good for the body as is enjoying food without guilt,
    though for some guilt is inevitable.

    When pot becomes a detriment is when one allows it to remove ambition in everyday life
    and their connection with loved ones.

    As far as lower IQ, like the study said, more research is needed,
    it makes sense though, if someone smokes heavily there will be a price to pay.
  • dimitrispearljamdimitrispearljam Posts: 139,721
    pandora wrote:
    And of course, laughing is incredibly good for the body
    .
    biggest true ever!!
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    "..That's One Happy Fuckin Ghost.."
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  • know1know1 Posts: 6,794
    Kind of a pointless study really, if it ever becomes legal you'll still have to be 18 before they let you smoke it.

    ya know legally ;)
    Most of the studies done on MJ these days are a waste of time. What is the driving force behind these studies? The way this article is written, and the brief look I had at the study, it seems they set out to find a decrease in IQ - searching for adverse affects. And the mind-shattering outcome of the study? Smoking pot is bad for developing minds. Like holy fuck....is this whole study just an excuse to keep bombarding us with anti-pot propaganda when the pre-conceived results are in?
    The last couple of paragraphs state that they can't even rule out alternative explanations. Like amethgr8 said, there are other variables in the individual that can affect these outcomes....and to top it all off, the department at Duke that conducted this study is solely sponsored by NIDA.
    NIDA basically controls all research on MJ, via their position as MJ 'gatekeepers' - they are the ones who grant access to MJ for research purposes. They're also the ones who have a blatant anti-medi-pot agenda - they pressure scientists to change the focus of their studies (will only allow access if the focus is on adverse affects).

    I think most studies on anything these days set out with a purpose and look for justification of their hypotheses. I have very little faith in science.
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  • hedonisthedonist Posts: 24,524
    know1 wrote:
    I think most studies on anything these days set out with a purpose and look for justification of their hypotheses. I have very little faith in science.
    I agree with the first part - same about polls, too.

    Science, though, has my faith; it's those manipulating it for their own agendas who don't.
  • know1know1 Posts: 6,794
    hedonist wrote:
    know1 wrote:
    I think most studies on anything these days set out with a purpose and look for justification of their hypotheses. I have very little faith in science.
    I agree with the first part - same about polls, too.

    Science, though, has my faith; it's those manipulating it for their own agendas who don't.

    Science is more like religion than it's not. It's great in theory, but people corrupt it. Also, the masses have to have faith in it since they really don't understand a lot of it.
    The only people we should try to get even with...
    ...are those who've helped us.

    Right 'round the corner could be bigger than ourselves.
  • dignindignin Posts: 9,338
    know1 wrote:
    hedonist wrote:
    know1 wrote:
    I think most studies on anything these days set out with a purpose and look for justification of their hypotheses. I have very little faith in science.
    I agree with the first part - same about polls, too.

    Science, though, has my faith; it's those manipulating it for their own agendas who don't.

    Science is more like religion than it's not. It's great in theory, but people corrupt it. Also, the masses have to have faith in it since they really don't understand a lot of it.

    You bet I have "faith' in science....and you should too. Just take a step back and think where we would be without it.
  • know1know1 Posts: 6,794
    dignin wrote:

    You bet I have "faith' in science....and you should too. Just take a step back and think where we would be without it.

    Seeing actual progress that's been made because of it is not faith.

    I'm talking about taking the scientists at their word for all the things you really can't see or understand.
    The only people we should try to get even with...
    ...are those who've helped us.

    Right 'round the corner could be bigger than ourselves.
  • mookeywrenchmookeywrench Posts: 5,934
    know1 wrote:
    dignin wrote:

    You bet I have "faith' in science....and you should too. Just take a step back and think where we would be without it.

    Seeing actual progress that's been made because of it is not faith.

    I'm talking about taking the scientists at their word for all the things you really can't see or understand.

    People in the field of science want exactly the opposite. They want people to prove them wrong and to challenge their findings, that's how advancements are made.
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  • know1know1 Posts: 6,794
    know1 wrote:
    dignin wrote:

    You bet I have "faith' in science....and you should too. Just take a step back and think where we would be without it.

    Seeing actual progress that's been made because of it is not faith.

    I'm talking about taking the scientists at their word for all the things you really can't see or understand.

    People in the field of science want exactly the opposite. They want people to prove them wrong and to challenge their findings, that's how advancements are made.

    I understand that, but it's not my point. For the general population, when they hear a scientist speak on something they've discovered or whatever, it takes a faith to believe what they are hearing is true.
    The only people we should try to get even with...
    ...are those who've helped us.

    Right 'round the corner could be bigger than ourselves.
  • hedonisthedonist Posts: 24,524
    know1 wrote:
    know1 wrote:
    Seeing actual progress that's been made because of it is not faith.

    I'm talking about taking the scientists at their word for all the things you really can't see or understand.

    People in the field of science want exactly the opposite. They want people to prove them wrong and to challenge their findings, that's how advancements are made.

    I understand that, but it's not my point. For the general population, when they hear a scientist speak on something they've discovered or whatever, it takes a faith to believe what they are hearing is true.
    I agree with this, though I'd say it starts with the desire to believe what science is saying is the truth.

    Or maybe they're the same thing, in the end?

    I don't know...to quote Fuck Me in the Brain - "I don't believe nothin! -- even if it's true."

    It's so difficult to trust what we're fed these days - one study cancels out the next, research "changes", so many (re)sources of information.

    I think I've come to the point where I'm just living as it appeals to my conscience and my common sense (and my hedonism :P ), and not put too much stock into the surrounding noise.
  • dignindignin Posts: 9,338
    know1 wrote:
    know1 wrote:

    Seeing actual progress that's been made because of it is not faith.

    I'm talking about taking the scientists at their word for all the things you really can't see or understand.

    People in the field of science want exactly the opposite. They want people to prove them wrong and to challenge their findings, that's how advancements are made.

    I understand that, but it's not my point. For the general population, when they hear a scientist speak on something they've discovered or whatever, it takes a faith to believe what they are hearing is true.


    I'm curious and would like to know where your distrust of scientists come from? Do you have any examples to share?
  • know1know1 Posts: 6,794
    dignin wrote:
    I'm curious and would like to know where your distrust of scientists come from? Do you have any examples to share?

    Again. My point is not my own distrust.

    My point is that it takes faith for most people to believe most science.
    The only people we should try to get even with...
    ...are those who've helped us.

    Right 'round the corner could be bigger than ourselves.
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