Only 21 Years in prison for killing 77 People in Norway

JOEJOEJOE

http://news.yahoo.com/court-finds-norwe ... 40655.html

He will be 54 when he gets out of prison if they deem him fit for release. Slap on the wrist!

They do have the option of keeping him in prison forever, but the fact that he will be eligible for release is crazy!

mickeyrat

This is the min/max in their system BUT he could be deemed a danger and held longer. The fact he was found to be "sane" allows for this. Had he been found insane he could have gotten out sooner if a doc had sai8d he was sane at a later time.

Far different system of justice. Heard many people say he didn't represent them and they just wasnte3d to move past this.

BOONE

I thought when I heard the news today that I must have misunderstood. That is absolutely amazing. His lawyers say he is happy and got exactely what he wanted. Lets see what happens. He certainly wont be very popular in prison! :nono:

Hairy Dane

yeah "we" Scandinavians have a somewhat odd system when it comes to jailtime vs. the crime commited and the time you might get out again. But many people also feels that giving him a "normal" sentence and not an "insane" one like 900 years in prison is what was "needed", because it shows that the system works ... so to speak. And it might be used as an example in other cases to show where the line is, between insanity and just pure evil (in lack of a better term).
It also is a bit of a feather in the hat for the Norwegian policeforce that he isn't dead. They handled it all from the first minute very professional, in my opinion. But I am also not a policeofficer ...
And also a huge feather in the hat for the Norwegian people; they did not take to the streets yelling and screaming, behaving like apes. No they comforted eachother, sang and made him do hard time.
Besides there is also a bit of a loophole in the law, as the Norwegians can (and I think shall) review his case before he is let out. And three months before this review they can decide wheather or not to prolong his punishment with five years. This is doable if there is the slightest chance the person will do a similar crime once released.
Again: I am not a lawyer of sorts, this is purely based on my understanding todays news...

mickeyrat

BOONE wrote:

I thought when I heard the news today that I must have misunderstood. That is absolutely amazing. His lawyers say he is happy and got exactely what he wanted. Lets see what happens. He certainly wont be very popular in prison! :nono:

single cell, isolated from other prisoners. Out of the cell(larger in size than the ones in the US) 3 hours a day I think? Access to a computer but no internet.

unsung

I am taking the belief that he will never be a free man again. It seems to be like a denial of parole, yeah he is technically eligible, but in no way is he getting out.

dimitrispearljam

i understand thats the system laws at Norway..
for sure my opinion,is that this man dont belong out as a free man never again,he need to pass the rest of his life till his last breath in prison,behind bars,but i totally respect the laws of Norway..
even i think he will die in prison..

Zoso

it's the longest sentence in norway.. but he won't ever see the light of day surely.

mookeywrench

Deemed sane and only sorry to his allegiance that he couldn't kill more that day....he's never getting released.

Go Beavers

mickeyrat wrote:

Access to a computer but no internet.

That's a lot of minesweeper.

JOEJOEJOE

Go Beavers wrote:

mickeyrat wrote:

Access to a computer but no internet.

That's a lot of minesweeper.

Solitaire in solitary!

mickeyrat

This guy should thank his lucky stars he wasn't sent to a US prison



http://www.dispatch.com/content/stories ... -life.html

By Scott Sayare

THE NEW YORK TIMESSaturday November 10, 2012 7:14 AM

Anders Behring Breivik would like butter, a new pen, more-comfortable handcuffs and a view.

Breivik, the Norwegian extremist convicted of the coldly premeditated murders of 77 people in 2011, is serving a 21-year sentence in a maximum-security prison outside Oslo, Norway. He is not satisfied with the accommodations, though: his three-cell suite with a television and exercise equipment, lodgings commensurate with Norway’s typically humane treatment of its convicts.

Addressing penal officials in a 27-page letter obtained by the Norwegian newspaper Verdens Gang and confirmed by his lawyer, Breivik bemoaned the “800” strip searches he has undergone, for instance. Not one of them has shown him to be holding an object “between the buttocks,” he noted.

He would enjoy more social interaction, according to the letter, which says he is alone with his thoughts for “23 hours and 55 minutes” on a typical day and speaks only with his guards.

“Such treatment isn’t human,” said an attorney for Breivik, Tord Jordet, according to Agence France-Presse.

Breivik is denied a computer or Internet access to prevent him from spreading his ideology of racial hatred, officials have said.

He expressed many other concerns in his letter, many of them prosaic. He must be supervised while shaving and brushing his teeth, he complained, and because of the “mental strain” this causes he is forced to limit those activities to once a week. Nor is he permitted to keep hydrating skin cream in his quarters, which are drab and without a view, he wrote. Switches for his lights and television are outside his suite, forcing him to summon guards to turn them on and off.

Breivik dislikes handcuffs, too, because the steel edges cut into his wrists, and he dreads putting them on for each trip outside his cell, Verdens Gang reported. Without a thermos, his coffee frequently goes cold, according to news media reports.

Furthermore, he wrote, his phone calls and mail are unfairly censored.

“His freedom of speech is being violated,” Jordet said.

Only correspondence from “New Testament Christians and other people who do not like me” has reached him in recent months, Breivik wrote.

Letters aside, Breivik would like to pursue his literary ambitions while in prison, he said, but those aspirations are being thwarted by the stab-resistant safety pen he has been provided, “a nightmare of a tool” that causes his hand to cramp. The pen is “an almost indescribable manifestation of sadism,” he wrote.

A prison spokeswoman said Breivik was given an electric typewriter yesterday. It was not given in response to Breivik’s letter, the spokeswoman said, according to the Associated Press.

“I highly doubt that there are worse detention facilities in Norway,” Breivik wrote.

Breivik’s 21-year sentence is the country’s maximum, and he is considered the most-heinous offender in modern Scandinavian history.

Breivik confessed to setting off bombs in downtown Oslo in July 2011 before shooting dozens of people at a summer youth camp run by the Labor Party. He said the killings were intended to protect Norway from Muslims and multiculturalism.

JOEJOEJOE

mickeyrat wrote:

This guy should thank his lucky stars he wasn't sent to a US prison



http://www.dispatch.com/content/stories ... -life.html

By Scott Sayare

THE NEW YORK TIMESSaturday November 10, 2012 7:14 AM

Anders Behring Breivik would like butter, a new pen, more-comfortable handcuffs and a view.

Breivik, the Norwegian extremist convicted of the coldly premeditated murders of 77 people in 2011, is serving a 21-year sentence in a maximum-security prison outside Oslo, Norway. He is not satisfied with the accommodations, though: his three-cell suite with a television and exercise equipment, lodgings commensurate with Norway’s typically humane treatment of its convicts.

Addressing penal officials in a 27-page letter obtained by the Norwegian newspaper Verdens Gang and confirmed by his lawyer, Breivik bemoaned the “800” strip searches he has undergone, for instance. Not one of them has shown him to be holding an object “between the buttocks,” he noted.

He would enjoy more social interaction, according to the letter, which says he is alone with his thoughts for “23 hours and 55 minutes” on a typical day and speaks only with his guards.

“Such treatment isn’t human,” said an attorney for Breivik, Tord Jordet, according to Agence France-Presse.

Breivik is denied a computer or Internet access to prevent him from spreading his ideology of racial hatred, officials have said.

He expressed many other concerns in his letter, many of them prosaic. He must be supervised while shaving and brushing his teeth, he complained, and because of the “mental strain” this causes he is forced to limit those activities to once a week. Nor is he permitted to keep hydrating skin cream in his quarters, which are drab and without a view, he wrote. Switches for his lights and television are outside his suite, forcing him to summon guards to turn them on and off.

Breivik dislikes handcuffs, too, because the steel edges cut into his wrists, and he dreads putting them on for each trip outside his cell, Verdens Gang reported. Without a thermos, his coffee frequently goes cold, according to news media reports.

Furthermore, he wrote, his phone calls and mail are unfairly censored.

“His freedom of speech is being violated,” Jordet said.

Only correspondence from “New Testament Christians and other people who do not like me” has reached him in recent months, Breivik wrote.

Letters aside, Breivik would like to pursue his literary ambitions while in prison, he said, but those aspirations are being thwarted by the stab-resistant safety pen he has been provided, “a nightmare of a tool” that causes his hand to cramp. The pen is “an almost indescribable manifestation of sadism,” he wrote.

A prison spokeswoman said Breivik was given an electric typewriter yesterday. It was not given in response to Breivik’s letter, the spokeswoman said, according to the Associated Press.

“I highly doubt that there are worse detention facilities in Norway,” Breivik wrote.

Breivik’s 21-year sentence is the country’s maximum, and he is considered the most-heinous offender in modern Scandinavian history.

Breivik confessed to setting off bombs in downtown Oslo in July 2011 before shooting dozens of people at a summer youth camp run by the Labor Party. He said the killings were intended to protect Norway from Muslims and multiculturalism.

His actions are a slap in the face to those who suffered the loss of 77 loved-ones.

SatansFuton

BOONE wrote:

He certainly wont be very popular in prison! :nono:

He better make friends with Squirrel Master.

mookeywrench

mickeyrat wrote:

"Without a thermos, his coffee frequently goes cold..."

Poor guy...

Sounds to me like he's trying to draw ire to keep his name and ego alive. Best thing we can do is forget this guy ever existed.

chadwick

you can kill 77 people in a mass shooting spree and as bloody and as cruel as it gets and get 3.666666666666667 months per person. that is correct, yes?

i took 77 people & divided them all by 21 years
i came up with 3.67
the calculator typed up 14 6's then added a simple number 7 at the end of the digit
3.666666666666667

so just over 90 days per life taken

:wtf:

rollings

chadwick wrote:

you can kill 77 people in a mass shooting spree and as bloody and as cruel as it gets and get 3.666666666666667 months per person. that is correct, yes?

i took 77 people & divided them all by 21 years
i came up with 3.67
the calculator typed up 14 6's then added a simple number 7 at the end of the digit
3.666666666666667

so just over 90 days per life taken

:wtf:

well, not to be technical but that would be 3.667 lives a year.... so 12 months divided by 3.667 = it would be 3.27 month per person.

but you're right...about 98 days per life taken.

mookeywrench

His release date works more like a U.S. parole hearing.

If he's still seen as a danger or threat to society in 2033, then he gets locked up for another 21 years. This process continues on and on indefinitely.

Since he was deemed sane and showed no remorse for his actions, another 21 years will be the most likely outcome.

rollings

mickeyrat wrote:

http://www.dispatch.com/content/stories ... -life.html

By Scott Sayare

THE NEW YORK TIMESSaturday November 10, 2012 7:14 AM

.... Nor is he permitted to keep hydrating skin cream in his quarters, which are drab and without a view, he wrote. Switches for his lights and television are outside his suite, forcing him to summon guards to turn them on and off.

. Without a thermos, his coffee frequently goes cold, according to news media reports.

.

SatansFuton

What exactly did this guy think prison was? I think mookey is right, he's just trying to mess with people.

Thirty Bills Unpaid

He would enjoy more social interaction, according to the letter, which says he is alone with his thoughts for “23 hours and 55 minutes” on a typical day and speaks only with his guards.

Anyone object? I'm sure there's some badass dude out there that would love nothing more than to have some social interaction with this idiot.

Too bad about his cold coffee though. Wait a minute... he gets coffee? Fuks sakes. Does he get massages too?

SatansFuton

Thirty Bills Unpaid wrote:

He would enjoy more social interaction, according to the letter, which says he is alone with his thoughts for “23 hours and 55 minutes” on a typical day and speaks only with his guards.

Anyone object? I'm sure there's some badass dude out there that would love nothing more than to have some social interaction with this idiot.

Too bad about his cold coffee though. Wait a minute... he gets coffee? Fuks sakes. Does he get massages too?

How about Nasty Nate?



He wants some cocktail....fruit.

RFTC

Go Beavers wrote:

mickeyrat wrote:

Access to a computer but no internet.

That's a lot of minesweeper.

you are a different breed, how many people say as much? and thirdly, fk i think like you. :fp:

dimitrispearljam

the worst is the only 21 year he got..is that he dont regret what he did...

SatansFuton

dimitrispearljam wrote:

the worst is the only 21 year he got..is that he dont regret what he did...

I bet he will eventually though, at least in that he'll regret being in prison. Even if he's not feeling it now, it will begin to take a serious toll on him. And left alone with his thoughts he'll hopefully see that whatever motives he had weren't justification for what he did. He'll have a long time to think about what he has done. Even if he only serves 21 years. That's a lot of time to reflect.

Thirty Bills Unpaid

dimitrispearljam wrote:

the worst is the only 21 year he got..is that he dont regret what he did...

No. And he still doesn't. A narcissist of the highest order. Complaining about his cramped cell, cold coffee and lack of socialization without any idea that the rest of the world- minus a few bleeding hearts- thinks he is a shitbagger. If he had any remorseful feelings or some semblance of an understanding of the magnitude of his obscenity... I'm pretty sure he wouldn't actually voice his displeasure in his current comforts. I'm pretty sure he'd hold his head down and feel the weight of the world's disdain upon him.