Yet ANOTHER Shooting

Hugh Freaking Dillon

dimitrispearljam wrote:

Hugh Freaking Dillon wrote:

dimitrispearljam wrote:

pa pa pa pa...and you are dead......

if you had a gun you'd probably be able to get that Isle of Wight flag you want so bad.

hehe..i prefer other ways,like community, friendship,help eachother..always work...
ill find it..its for someone very special person to me,has to do with the color.....
ill find it...i always do..and never with any kind of violence.....

I know D.

comebackgirl

What a scary thing to happen in such a crowded area. I'm sad to hear this.

JonnyPistachio

Godfather. wrote:

JonnyPistachio wrote:

BinauralJam wrote:

I'm not going to condemn the police, if a guy starts shooting at random people they have to take him out as soon as possible.

Very true. My bad...I dont know what happened, so i'll shut up and not rush to judge.

......JP is that you ! AWESOME !!!

Godfather.

Well, I'd assume you know where I stand on guns...but wow, I can't even imagine what a gunfight in crowed Manhattan is like, and how in the world police are trained to handle it properly. You'd almost have to assume there will be innocents hit by police if they are rushing to put down the perpetrator.

Godfather.

no kidding ! sad but true, I 'm waiting for those lazer guided bullets.

Godfather.

pandora

Worked there for six years, laid off in a downsizing, been laid off for a year...
comes back to kill the man responsible, the office manager,
whom both accuse the other of harassment history.

Wonder how many times this scenario plays out ...
minus the gunfire of course.

Police are not sure if he used his gun, other than towards the intended victim,
they say he may have only pointed at the police, never firing. Suicidal perhaps?
They say the returning police gunfire may have injured the crowd.

I agree no need to rehash the gun debate.
Gunlaws would not have stopped this ...
revenge is sweet for some as they leave this world....
is that a notion of a distraught depressed person?

Watched Horrible Bosses last night, ironically.

I just think the way people treat each other is a crime in itself.

Moonpig

pandora wrote:

Worked there for six years, laid off in a downsizing, been laid off for a year...
comes back to kill the man responsible, the office manager,
whom both accuse the other of harassment history.

Wonder how many times this scenario plays out ...
minus the gunfire of course.

Police are not sure if he used his gun, other than towards the intended victim,
they say he may have only pointed at the police, never firing. Suicidal perhaps?
They say the returning police gunfire may have injured the crowd.

I agree no need to rehash the gun debate.
Gunlaws would not have stopped this ...
revenge is sweet for some as they leave this world....
is that a notion of a distraught depressed person?

Watched Horrible Bosses last night, ironically.

I just think the way people treat each other is a crime in itself.

That is your opinion, others may beg to differ.

PJ_Soul

I'd be pretty pissed off if I got shot by a cop because he was firing towards innocent people. Wtf.

Jason P

Not even The Onion get get it right ....

Nation Celebrates Full Week Without Deadly Mass Shooting
____
UPDATE: Never Mind

NEW YORK—Cheers filled the streets and American flags waved triumphantly through the air today as the nation turned out in full force to celebrate an entire week having passed since the last time a madman opened fire on innocent civilians in some kind of fatal mass shooting. “We did it, folks! We banded together and managed to go seven whole days without killing our fellow Americans in a senseless murdering spree!” Secretary of Homeland Security Janet Napolitano said in a speech to jubilant throngs gathered in Times Square. “Yes, some people were shot this week, but not in a random, highly public, viscerally disturbing way and—most importantly—not all in one place, by one psychopath. Maybe one day we can live in a society where abominable large-scale gun violence stays out of the national headlines for a whole month even!” At press time, federal authorities had issued a reminder to all Americans that a lot can happen in 24 hours, “so let’s not get too excited yet.”

UPDATE: Federal officials have reportedly just informed celebrating Americans that a mass shooting did in fact just happen in front of the Empire State Building, and that citizens should stop chanting and cheering now. “Oh,” Secretary of Homeland Security Janet Napolitano said, looking at what appeared to be a news alert on her cell phone. “You know what, forget it. There was another one about 20 blocks from here. So, party’s over. Sorry.” Napolitano then urged the visibly saddened Americans to be careful, get back home as soon as possible, lock all their doors, and never leave their homes unless it is absolutely essential.

pandora

Moonpig wrote:

pandora wrote:

Worked there for six years, laid off in a downsizing, been laid off for a year...
comes back to kill the man responsible, the office manager,
whom both accuse the other of harassment history.

Wonder how many times this scenario plays out ...
minus the gunfire of course.

Police are not sure if he used his gun, other than towards the intended victim,
they say he may have only pointed at the police, never firing. Suicidal perhaps?
They say the returning police gunfire may have injured the crowd.

I agree no need to rehash the gun debate.
Gunlaws would not have stopped this ...
revenge is sweet for some as they leave this world....
is that a notion of a distraught depressed person?

Watched Horrible Bosses last night, ironically.

I just think the way people treat each other is a crime in itself.

That is your opinion, others may beg to differ.

Did you think it was fact? I did not....

guess I need to go back to in my opinion after every few lines
it goes without saying...

Thirty Bills Unpaid

pandora wrote:

Moonpig wrote:

pandora wrote:

Worked there for six years, laid off in a downsizing, been laid off for a year...
comes back to kill the man responsible, the office manager,
whom both accuse the other of harassment history.

Wonder how many times this scenario plays out ...
minus the gunfire of course.

Police are not sure if he used his gun, other than towards the intended victim,
they say he may have only pointed at the police, never firing. Suicidal perhaps?
They say the returning police gunfire may have injured the crowd.

I agree no need to rehash the gun debate.
Gunlaws would not have stopped this ...
revenge is sweet for some as they leave this world....
is that a notion of a distraught depressed person?

Watched Horrible Bosses last night, ironically.

I just think the way people treat each other is a crime in itself.

That is your opinion, others may beg to differ.

Did you think it was fact? I did not....

guess I need to go back to in my opinion after every few lines
it goes without saying...

It's also bait, Pandora.

You say there is no need to rehash the gun debate and immediately follow your statement with the proclamation, "Gun laws would not have stopped this..."

JonnyPistachio

After seeing some of the video, i'm not so sure it was a good idea for police to shoot this guy and wound 9 innocent people.

http://us.cnn.com/video/?hpt=hp_t3#/vid ... ooting.cnn

Jason P

JonnyPistachio wrote:

After seeing some of the video, i'm not so sure it was a good idea for police to shoot this guy and wound 9 innocent people.

http://us.cnn.com/video/?hpt=hp_t3#/vid ... ooting.cnn

Well, on the positive side they just made nine people future millionaires.

pandora

Thirty Bills Unpaid wrote:

pandora wrote:

Moonpig wrote:

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That is your opinion, others may beg to differ.

Did you think it was fact? I did not....

guess I need to go back to in my opinion after every few lines
it goes without saying...

It's also bait, Pandora.

You say there is no need to rehash the gun debate and immediately follow your statement with the proclamation, "Gun laws would not have stopped this..."

bait :fp: my opinion ... can ignore :thumbup:

pandora

We just ran into our special operatives officers on lunch,
impressive gear.
My eyes met one fella's, we smiled...
I couldn't help but think everyday he's got to be ready to die for
an innocent life.

PJ_Soul

It blows my mind that the police were so careless and dangerous in this situation. They should be fired.

hedonist

I can't watch the video from work so it may make my point moot, but I have to wonder...had the police not acted as they had, they'd still be criticized, no? Sort of a damned if you do, damned if you don't type of thing.

PJ_Soul

hedonist wrote:

I can't watch the video from work so it may make my point moot, but I have to wonder...had the police not acted as they had, they'd still be criticized, no? Sort of a damned if you do, damned if you don't type of thing.

If they hadn't acted as they did, they wouldn't have shot 9 innocent bystanders, would have pursued the guy on foot, and caught him without hurting anyone. The alternative to shooting towards people walking by was not to just stand there and do nothing. Or how about actually aiming at the man with the gun and firing once instead of a bunch of them firing wildly in his approximate direction? One of the cops was really close to the suspect; the dude was pretty much standing there at police gunpoint. The cops acted rashly and irresponsibly.

JonnyPistachio

hedonist wrote:

I can't watch the video from work so it may make my point moot, but I have to wonder...had the police not acted as they had, they'd still be criticized, no? Sort of a damned if you do, damned if you don't type of thing.

yeah, i can agree with that...I just cant get out of my head, police are to "protect and serve"...I think in this instance, they were protecting themselves more than the innocents who were caught in the crossfire. I dont think they should be fired, but I think some additional training or better procedures need to be looked into. Judging from the video, the man didnt appear to be a threat to the people around him anymore...maybe the police couldve followed him until he was in a less crowded area. They are REALLY lucky no innocents were killed.

PJ_Soul

JonnyPistachio wrote:

hedonist wrote:

I can't watch the video from work so it may make my point moot, but I have to wonder...had the police not acted as they had, they'd still be criticized, no? Sort of a damned if you do, damned if you don't type of thing.

yeah, i can agree with that...I just cant get out of my head, police are to "protect and serve"...I think in this instance, they were protecting themselves more than the innocents who were caught in the crossfire. I dont think they should be fired, but I think some additional training or better procedures need to be looked into. Judging from the video, the man didnt appear to be a threat to the people around him anymore...maybe the police couldve followed him until he was in a less crowded area. They are REALLY lucky no innocents were killed.

Yeah, the man wasn't a threat to the bystanders as far as I could tell either. The police were, as it turns out.

peacefrompaul

PJ_Soul wrote:

hedonist wrote:

I can't watch the video from work so it may make my point moot, but I have to wonder...had the police not acted as they had, they'd still be criticized, no? Sort of a damned if you do, damned if you don't type of thing.

If they hadn't acted as they did, they wouldn't have shot 9 innocent bystanders, would have pursued the guy on foot, and caught him without hurting anyone. The alternative to shooting towards people walking by was not to just stand there and do nothing. Or how about actually aiming at the man with the gun and firing once instead of a bunch of them firing wildly in his approximate direction? One of the cops was really close to the suspect; the dude was pretty much standing there at police gunpoint. The cops acted rashly and irresponsibly.

Good old NYPD.