Raped Pregnant and Ordeal Not OVER!

comebackgirl

pandora wrote:

I skimmed the article and was wondering if she had reported the rape,
if the rapist was caught and charged, if the rapist was prosecuted and went to prison
and is now a registered offender.

I think if this had happened, chances are he would not be able to get custody...
at least I hope not.

Another reason to always report a rape to authorities immediately
and do not disturb any evidence.

Many states don't provide protections even if he is charged and convicted. Depending on the circumstances of their crime, sex offenders don't necessarily lose parental rights.

MotoDC

Hugh Freaking Dillon wrote:

I gather from what she said about (paraphrasing) "agreeing to let the rapist go free in exchange for him to waive his rights as a father" means she agreed to drop the charges, or not report it to the police at all, if he dropped his bid for parental rights.

disgusting.

That's how I read it as well. God willing, that guy finds himself on the business end of a speeding bus in the near future.

MotoDC

double post

MotoDC

comebackgirl wrote:

Many states don't provide protections even if he is charged and convicted. Depending on the circumstances of their crime, sex offenders don't necessarily lose parental rights.

This part is absolutely fucking outrageous to me (not that the rest of the topic is ponies and rainbows). I do believe the overall question is challenging legally, but this part seems slap-me-in-the-face obvious. How can courts even consider giving custody to a man convicted of rape, even regardless of whether the child in question was conceived as a result of the rape???

hedonist

MotoDC wrote:

comebackgirl wrote:

Many states don't provide protections even if he is charged and convicted. Depending on the circumstances of their crime, sex offenders don't necessarily lose parental rights.

This part is absolutely fucking outrageous to me (not that the rest of the topic is ponies and rainbows). I do believe the overall question is challenging legally, but this part seems bold-faced obvious. How can courts even consider giving custody to a man convicted of rape, even regardless of whether the child in question was conceived as a result of the rape???

I'm guessing/hoping that it's not actual custody granted but limited and supervised visitation rights?

But yeah, outrageous indeed...reading that phrase, those words together...wrong.

comebackgirl

MotoDC wrote:

comebackgirl wrote:

Many states don't provide protections even if he is charged and convicted. Depending on the circumstances of their crime, sex offenders don't necessarily lose parental rights.

This part is absolutely fucking outrageous to me (not that the rest of the topic is ponies and rainbows). I do believe the overall question is challenging legally, but this part seems slap-me-in-the-face obvious. How can courts even consider giving custody to a man convicted of rape, even regardless of whether the child in question was conceived as a result of the rape???

It's really outrageous. That's not to say that he will necessarily get custody or even visitation, but it could be a battle. Some states provide specific protections (although sometimes limited), but a lot don't provide any. That means it could be a court battle that would probably hinge on the nature of the crime and whether the rapist is deemed a danger to children.

Hugh Freaking Dillon

basically the law is encouraging victims of rape to get an abortion. it's either that or risk having to relive your rape each and every second weekend when the rapist comes to visit and have tea with you and talk about your kid.

fucked up to say the least.

pandora

comebackgirl wrote:

pandora wrote:

I skimmed the article and was wondering if she had reported the rape,
if the rapist was caught and charged, if the rapist was prosecuted and went to prison
and is now a registered offender.

I think if this had happened, chances are he would not be able to get custody...
at least I hope not.

Another reason to always report a rape to authorities immediately
and do not disturb any evidence.

Many states don't provide protections even if he is charged and convicted. Depending on the circumstances of their crime, sex offenders don't necessarily lose parental rights.

I would think a convicted rapist would though.
Seems cases like this one,where the rapist is indeed convicted of the crime of rape
when a child is conceived, the court has ruled the rapist has no parental rights.

I believe then this story involves a woman who did not report the rape....?
If a woman does not she loses all credibility in court, basically her word against his.

As I said, another reason to report the crime.

comebackgirl

pandora wrote:

comebackgirl wrote:

pandora wrote:

I skimmed the article and was wondering if she had reported the rape,
if the rapist was caught and charged, if the rapist was prosecuted and went to prison
and is now a registered offender.

I think if this had happened, chances are he would not be able to get custody...
at least I hope not.

Another reason to always report a rape to authorities immediately
and do not disturb any evidence.

Many states don't provide protections even if he is charged and convicted. Depending on the circumstances of their crime, sex offenders don't necessarily lose parental rights.

I would think a convicted rapist would though.
Seems cases like this one,where the rapist is indeed convicted of the crime of rape
when a child is conceived, the court has ruled the rapist has no parental rights.

I believe then this story involves a woman who did not report the rape....?
If a woman does not she loses all credibility in court, basically her word against his.

As I said, another reason to report the crime.

You'd be surprised. Many men that commit violent physical assaults against the mother of their child don't lose parental rights, even if they have been incarcerated for such. Visitation may be supervised, but they may still have rights to the child, which keeps them bound. As Hugh Freaking Dillon posted, she agreed to let him go free in exchange for waiving his parental rights, so it sounds as if she did report the charges. Her journal article discusses the lack of protections in more detail. I wish every survivor would report the crime. I think we have a lot of work to do with regard to the social climate and the legal process before that will happen, but even that won't diminish the crisis reaction that prevents so many survivors from doing just that.