I wonder...

DS1119DS1119 Posts: 33,497
edited August 2012 in A Moving Train
...how Obama will spend his last few months in office? :lol: I would guess eating horse meat. :lol:
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  • BinauralJamBinauralJam Posts: 14,158
    We wont find out until 2016, no point in speculating.
  • DS1119DS1119 Posts: 33,497
    We wont find out until 2016, no point in speculating.


    I'll be sooner than that. :lol:

    Have you ever had horse?
  • BinauralJamBinauralJam Posts: 14,158
    No, but make me a steak and i'll try it, ofcourse i wont be putting ketchup on it like some people. :fp:
  • comebackgirlcomebackgirl Posts: 9,885
    You forgot to use this guy: :corn:
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  • DS1119DS1119 Posts: 33,497
    You forgot to use this guy: :corn:


    Oh sorry. :corn:
  • DS1119 wrote:
    ...how Obama will spend his last few months in office? :lol: I would guess eating horse meat. :lol:
    What are the polls saying?
    I havent payed too much attention...

    Obama HAS to be ahead in the polls...Right?

    How close it it?
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  • Cliffy6745Cliffy6745 Posts: 33,897
    Trolling but I'll bite.

    I'd say 2016. The University of Colorado model has Romney winning and it hasn't been wrong but it has Romney winning every swing state, which just isn't going to happen. I'll take Nate Silver's analysis more. He has it tightening over the past week or so but still has Romney at a 33% chance of winning.
  • Cliffy6745Cliffy6745 Posts: 33,897
    DS1119 wrote:
    ...how Obama will spend his last few months in office? :lol: I would guess eating horse meat. :lol:
    What are the polls saying?
    I havent payed too much attention...

    Obama HAS to be ahead in the polls...Right?

    How close it it?

    Close and depends on what poll you look at. The pollster model which takes hundereds of polls into consideration has Obama with about a 2 point lead nationally. Like I said Nate Silver is only giving Romney a 1 in 3 chance of winning right now.
  • inlet13inlet13 Posts: 1,979
    Polls are pretty meaningless right now, this has the right idea... incorporating state-based economics into the race, and the model has never been wrong:


    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/08/22/university-of-colorado-pr_n_1822933.html?icid=maing-grid7|main5|dl1|sec1_lnk2%26pLid%3D195989

    it says - winner - Mitt Romney.

    Regardless of who wins though, we all lose. They both suck.
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  • DS1119DS1119 Posts: 33,497
    Cliffy6745 wrote:
    DS1119 wrote:
    ...how Obama will spend his last few months in office? :lol: I would guess eating horse meat. :lol:
    What are the polls saying?
    I havent payed too much attention...

    Obama HAS to be ahead in the polls...Right?

    How close it it?

    Close and depends on what poll you look at. The pollster model which takes hundereds of polls into consideration has Obama with about a 2 point lead nationally. Like I said Nate Silver is only giving Romney a 1 in 3 chance of winning right now.


    Down to one this morning. His Vice Pres selection only strengthened him. And since he's the incumbant that's about as slim as you can make it. :lol: :corn:
  • DS1119DS1119 Posts: 33,497
    Cliffy6745 wrote:
    Trolling but I'll bite.

    I'd say 2016. The University of Colorado model has Romney winning and it hasn't been wrong but it has Romney winning every swing state, which just isn't going to happen. I'll take Nate Silver's analysis more. He has it tightening over the past week or so but still has Romney at a 33% chance of winning.


    And I object to the trolling comment. I mean if someone is going to post that "alternative lifestyle" escorts were booked up becasue the Republicans were coming to town I think this is more than fair. :lol:
  • cincybearcatcincybearcat Posts: 16,492
    It will all depend on what the voters are worried about on election day, and a long time of stupid ads and distractions to try and get them to think if something else is ahead of us before we get there.

    If Obama is successful at getting Americans to blame people that are well off for the economy, or if Obama is successful at distracting the american people from the economy by talking about tax returns, abortion in the case of rape, dogs on car roofs, etc, then Obama will win and win pretty easily.

    If not, it;s going to be really close and I'd give Mitt a solid chance.

    My belief is Obama will be successful in deflecting blame and distracting and he will win re-election.

    If the republicans would really be for limited government - reduce spending (including defense), completely overhaul the tax system (simple 1 or 2 rates, eliminate loopholes and deductions, etc), continue the overhaul of entitlement programs, AND get out of people's personal lives (gay marriage, etc.) then I think the republicans would gain control of the government for literally decades, maybe several of them.
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  • Cliffy6745Cliffy6745 Posts: 33,897
    inlet13 wrote:
    Polls are pretty meaningless right now, this has the right idea... incorporating state-based economics into the race, and the model has never been wrong:


    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/08/22/university-of-colorado-pr_n_1822933.html?icid=maing-grid7|main5|dl1|sec1_lnk2%26pLid%3D195989

    it says - winner - Mitt Romney.

    Regardless of who wins though, we all lose. They both suck.

    This is the one I was referring to. But it also has every single swing state going to Romney, which as you know, just isn't going to happen.
  • Cliffy6745Cliffy6745 Posts: 33,897
    DS1119 wrote:

    Down to one this morning. His Vice Pres selection only strengthened him. And since he's the incumbant that's about as slim as you can make it. :lol: :corn:

    The AP poll is the one that has it at one. Pollster takes the AP and over 400 other polls into consideration. I go by that one as it is the most complete. Ryan hasn't given him that much of a bump aside from a small one in Wisconsin.
  • DS1119DS1119 Posts: 33,497
    AND get out of people's personal lives (gay marriage, etc.) then I think the republicans would gain control of the government for literally decades, maybe several of them.


    I always like this comment...however the Democrats certainly like to get into people's personal lives via their wallet. :lol::lol:
  • Cliffy6745Cliffy6745 Posts: 33,897
    This is the best for polling info and chances. He was 49 of 50 in 2008.

    http://fivethirtyeight.blogs.nytimes.com/
  • cincybearcatcincybearcat Posts: 16,492
    DS1119 wrote:
    AND get out of people's personal lives (gay marriage, etc.) then I think the republicans would gain control of the government for literally decades, maybe several of them.


    I always like this comment...however the Democrats certainly like to get into people's personal lives via their wallet. :lol::lol:

    They certainly do. That's why I had the first part in there...the part you cut off. ;)
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  • Im serious here..
    I want you Moving Trainers to help me here...

    Seems to me, the nation voted for Obama last election...
    Based on his IMAGE...Correct?
    Not truly based on his accomplishments, but more so based on an image...Im sure you know what I mean.

    Anyway

    Given the State of the nation after 8 years of Bush...
    How has Obama made a difference in the last 4 years?
    What has changed?
    What has improved?
    Economy?
    Unemployment?
    Debt?

    Are we improving under Obama?

    And I am serious.
    Please give me some information.

    Thank You
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  • cincybearcatcincybearcat Posts: 16,492
    Im serious here..
    I want you Moving Trainers to help me here...

    Seems to me, the nation voted for Obama last election...
    Based on his IMAGE...Correct?
    Not truly based on his accomplishments, but more so based on an image...Im sure you know what I mean.

    Anyway

    Given the State of the nation after 8 years of Bush...
    How has Obama made a difference in the last 4 years?
    What has changed?
    What has improved?
    Economy?
    Unemployment?
    Debt?

    Are we improving under Obama?

    And I am serious.
    Please give me some information.

    Thank You

    FYI - people are going to blame the republicans in congress for blocking Obama at everything. You know, despite them only having control for 2 years of the 4. They will say the first 2 were filabuster and the last 2 were republican control.

    Obama doesn't do any wrong. It's the 1%'s fault, the republicans in congress fault, anyone making over $250,000 fault...it's funny.
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  • DS1119DS1119 Posts: 33,497
    Im serious here..
    I want you Moving Trainers to help me here...

    Seems to me, the nation voted for Obama last election...
    Based on his IMAGE...Correct?
    Not truly based on his accomplishments, but more so based on an image...Im sure you know what I mean.

    Anyway

    Given the State of the nation after 8 years of Bush...
    How has Obama made a difference in the last 4 years?
    What has changed?
    What has improved?
    Economy?
    Unemployment?
    Debt?

    Are we improving under Obama?

    And I am serious.
    Please give me some information.

    Thank You


    You're going to get so many bars and graphs to answer your post it will make your head spin. For me it comes down to this. Has my situation improved over the last four years becasue of this administration? If you say yes...stay the course. If you say no...vote for change.
  • hedonisthedonist Posts: 24,524
    Cincy, good post there.

    As for polls, I don't trust them. I think they're massaged based on who is presenting them, and I don't think most people who are asked give honest answers.

    (and, in all my years, I have never once been asked to participate in a poll. I find that kind of strange)

    That said, in answer to Speedy - I personally am doing better financially as compared to four years ago, but I will proudly attribute that to my own hard work. I've earned it. But overall, on the countrywide scale? Nope, I haven't seen overall improvement. Many people are still hurting.

    I'm so tired of "image". Smoke and mirrors. Being thought of as "cool, hip". I don't give a fuck what you look like, as long as you step up and not try to blow a lot of hot air up my ass.
  • ComeToTXComeToTX Austin Posts: 7,872
    Im serious here..
    I want you Moving Trainers to help me here...

    Seems to me, the nation voted for Obama last election...
    Based on his IMAGE...Correct?
    Not truly based on his accomplishments, but more so based on an image...Im sure you know what I mean.

    Anyway

    Given the State of the nation after 8 years of Bush...
    How has Obama made a difference in the last 4 years?
    What has changed?
    What has improved?
    Economy?
    Unemployment?
    Debt?

    Are we improving under Obama?

    And I am serious.
    Please give me some information.

    Thank You

    I blame Obama for plenty but it's not like 8 years of W and his awful decisions don't have lasting effects. How much money have we wasted in Iraq? Where else could that money have been used here?
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  • JeanwahJeanwah Posts: 6,363
    edited August 2012
    inlet13 wrote:
    Polls are pretty meaningless

    I said it in another thread. Polls are only created to manipulate the public. The more you ignore them, the less attached we are to the media throwing out manipulating info...
    Post edited by Jeanwah on
  • inlet13inlet13 Posts: 1,979
    Cliffy6745 wrote:
    inlet13 wrote:
    Polls are pretty meaningless right now, this has the right idea... incorporating state-based economics into the race, and the model has never been wrong:


    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/08/22/university-of-colorado-pr_n_1822933.html?icid=maing-grid7|main5|dl1|sec1_lnk2%26pLid%3D195989

    it says - winner - Mitt Romney.

    Regardless of who wins though, we all lose. They both suck.

    This is the one I was referring to. But it also has every single swing state going to Romney, which as you know, just isn't going to happen.


    I think it's possible he wins every swing state. From what I understand, their model is only saying that because the economic statistics within those swing states sucks so bad right now. The question really is - do you see those economic statistics improving enough to change the results by the election?
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  • JeanwahJeanwah Posts: 6,363
    hedonist wrote:
    Cincy, good post there.

    As for polls, I don't trust them. I think they're massaged based on who is presenting them, and I don't think most people who are asked give honest answers.

    (and, in all my years, I have never once been asked to participate in a poll. I find that kind of strange)

    Exactly.
  • ComeToTX wrote:

    I blame Obama for plenty but it's not like 8 years of W and his awful decisions don't have lasting effects. How much money have we wasted in Iraq? Where else could that money have been used here?
    Im not concerned about the 8 years of Bush.
    Im just curious as to what has CHANGED in the 1st 4 years under Obama.

    How about "Obamacare?"

    Is it a good thing?
    Is it a bad thing?
    Are you paying more for insurance? Less? How has Obamacare affected YOU the last 4 years?

    How about unemployment?

    Has Obama done enough?
    Has he done too little?
    Has the nation moved forward?

    The Banking/Housing/Foreclosure/Property value debacle?
    Are we recovering?
    Are we the same?
    Has progress been made to clean up this mess?

    As a nation are we stronger than we were 4 years ago?
    If so, why do you think that?
    If not, why do you think that?

    Just looking for peoples views...
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  • DS1119DS1119 Posts: 33,497
    Jeanwah wrote:
    hedonist wrote:
    Cincy, good post there.

    As for polls, I don't trust them. I think they're massaged based on who is presenting them, and I don't think most people who are asked give honest answers.

    (and, in all my years, I have never once been asked to participate in a poll. I find that kind of strange)

    Exactly.


    The US population is roughly 314,200,000...I wouldn't look into the issue that you haven't been asked to participate in a poll too deeply. :lol:
  • JeanwahJeanwah Posts: 6,363
    Im not concerned about the 8 years of Bush.
    Im just curious as to what has CHANGED in the 1st 4 years under Obama.

    How about "Obamacare?"

    Is it a good thing?
    Is it a bad thing?
    Are you paying more for insurance? Less? How has Obamacare affected YOU the last 4 years?

    How about unemployment?

    Has Obama done enough?
    Has he done too little?
    Has the nation moved forward?

    The Banking/Housing/Foreclosure/Property value debacle?
    Are we recovering?
    Are we the same?
    Has progress been made to clean up this mess?

    As a nation are we stronger than we were 4 years ago?
    If so, why do you think that?
    If not, why do you think that?

    Just looking for peoples views...

    I think too many people overlook the fact that Obama is nothing but a scapegoat for the system. Nothing really ever changes in a corrupt system, just a different head to blame while the system keeps operating the machine. If Congress refuses to change things, nothing changes, regardless of the head we're looking at. It's not up to Obama so you people who are distracted with "What's he done?" are wasting your time. Look beyond him to who's really in charge. (the machine)
  • hedonisthedonist Posts: 24,524
    DS1119 wrote:
    Jeanwah wrote:
    hedonist wrote:
    Cincy, good post there.

    As for polls, I don't trust them. I think they're massaged based on who is presenting them, and I don't think most people who are asked give honest answers.

    (and, in all my years, I have never once been asked to participate in a poll. I find that kind of strange)

    Exactly.


    The US population is roughly 314,200,000...I wouldn't look into the issue that you haven't been asked to participate in a poll too deeply. :lol:
    Not looking into it necessarily deeply, but just from a logical and mathematical perspective. Doesn't make sense.
  • Jeanwah wrote:

    I think too many people overlook the fact that Obama is nothing but a scapegoat for the system. Nothing really ever changes in a corrupt system, just a different head to blame while the system keeps operating the machine. If Congress refuses to change things, nothing changes, regardless of the head we're looking at. It's not up to Obama so you people who are distracted with "What's he done?" are wasting your time. Look beyond him to who's really in charge. (the machine)
    Maybe I am wasting my time asking people for their views..
    Maybe I am not...

    But thanks for your opinion.
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